Upgrading wheels 19' or 18'??
05-10-2010, 12:42 PM
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Upgrading wheels 19' or 18'??
what should i go for i am getting mixed responses from everyone around my area for going with 19 or 18's im down in toronto canada and the roads are ok how bad is the ride comfort on the 19's? and how bout the look i dont know what to do and suggestions ? thx
05-10-2010, 08:48 PM
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It really depends on what rims you get. I have seen some sexy ass 18" rims like volks and even the type s rims a sex. But I have also seen soMe fugly 18" and 19"s. I have RJ DT3-f 19" rims wrapped around some faulken 452 245/40/19's and the ride quality is good plus they do a really good job of protecting my rims from it's arch nemesis Dr. Pothole and his henchmen roadrashers. But choose wisely on what rims you get, ride quality deminishes the larger you go.
05-12-2010, 07:29 AM
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It really depends on what rims you get. I have seen some sexy ass 18" rims like volks and even the type s rims a sex. But I have also seen soMe fugly 18" and 19"s. I have RJ DT3-f 19" rims wrapped around some faulken 452 245/40/19's and the ride quality is good plus they do a really good job of protecting my rims from it's arch nemesis Dr. Pothole and his henchmen roadrashers. But choose wisely on what rims you get, ride quality deminishes the larger you go.
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05-12-2010, 02:05 PM
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I had 19". When I switch back to the OEM 17" for the summer, I realized how rough the ride was and how nice the ride ont he 17" were. I was going to forget rims completely, but I figured I'd give 18" a shot and I think it's WAY better than the 19".
Just my opinion.
Just my opinion.
05-12-2010, 03:11 PM
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I had 19" in NYC area and never again. I now have the ronjon legends in 18 liquid graphite, wish they had the black machined face at that time when i was getting them but what can you do. Anyhow 18's ride perfect in my opinion and they look just as good if not better. If you get 19's you will be slower of the line and will probably have to visit the rim shop every once in while to fix your rims.
When you lower the car so you have about one finger gap tire to the fender, 80 % of the rims will look that much better. A drop makes everything look better.
i would say that a 18" wheel rides better on a dropped car or a stiffer suspension then 19" on stock.
When you lower the car so you have about one finger gap tire to the fender, 80 % of the rims will look that much better. A drop makes everything look better.
i would say that a 18" wheel rides better on a dropped car or a stiffer suspension then 19" on stock.
05-12-2010, 03:29 PM
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19's will be fine if you get quality rims. forged, monoblock rims are almost bulletproof. They will also be lighter weight than a cast 18'', so, you will not be slower off the line. you'll be faster. however a forged 18'' would be even better from a performance standpoint. it all depends where you drive and what you are going for. you said your roads arent terrible, so go with 19's. Thats what I have, drive the roads that 'arent terrible', and I'm lowered. the ride is stiff, but is worth it.
05-12-2010, 04:13 PM
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19's will be fine if you get quality rims. forged, monoblock rims are almost bulletproof. They will also be lighter weight than a cast 18'', so, you will not be slower off the line. you'll be faster. however a forged 18'' would be even better from a performance standpoint. it all depends where you drive and what you are going for. you said your roads arent terrible, so go with 19's. Thats what I have, drive the roads that 'arent terrible', and I'm lowered. the ride is stiff, but is worth it.
05-12-2010, 05:22 PM
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I got forged rims for used cheap, just need to know what to look for.
why get cheap wheels (which usually look cheap as well) that will get damaged when you can afford quality rims?
why get cheap wheels (which usually look cheap as well) that will get damaged when you can afford quality rims?
05-12-2010, 05:43 PM
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ive never said i get cheap wheels. around 300 something a piece is not cheap, at least to me. but paying 650 and plus for one to me is a little steep, not that i cant afford it, i just dont see myself spending that kinda money on rims. If you do fine no problem.
05-12-2010, 11:14 PM
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Why would you lose performance going with 19's ? 235/35R19 tires have the same overall diameter as the 235/45R17 oem tires. So the effective gear ratio would be the same.
05-13-2010, 12:04 AM
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Forged wheels aren't necessarily stronger, in most cases they are actually the same strength as comparable cast wheels, but get away with a less material and lighter weight. In some cases (few independent wheel companies), they are weaker because the idea of weight savings compromises the integrity of the wheel and because testing is not as thorough as cast wheel requirements. It might just mean the difference between slightly bending a forged wheel or severely cracking a cast wheel, either way, some damage is unavoidable with a 4000 lb vehicle and crater sized potholes.
05-13-2010, 01:10 AM
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rotational mass/inertia. its not all about the size, but also about the weight and the way it is distributed. although it is the same size overall, there is more metal and less rubber which throws off the weight and increases the rotational inertia. this will affect both acceleration and braking.
also with larger wheels, you have to fit smaller (narrower) tires in order to fit them without much fender mods (rolling and pulling), but with stock 17" rims you can fit 255/40/17 no problem which will give you a larger contact patch = better traction/handling
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05-13-2010, 07:14 AM
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even if your effective gear ratio is the same..
rotational mass/inertia. its not all about the size, but also about the weight and the way it is distributed. although it is the same size overall, there is more metal and less rubber which throws off the weight and increases the rotational inertia. this will affect both acceleration and braking.
also with larger wheels, you have to fit smaller (narrower) tires in order to fit them without much fender mods (rolling and pulling), but with stock 17" rims you can fit 255/40/17 no problem which will give you a larger contact patch = better traction/handling
rotational mass/inertia. its not all about the size, but also about the weight and the way it is distributed. although it is the same size overall, there is more metal and less rubber which throws off the weight and increases the rotational inertia. this will affect both acceleration and braking.
also with larger wheels, you have to fit smaller (narrower) tires in order to fit them without much fender mods (rolling and pulling), but with stock 17" rims you can fit 255/40/17 no problem which will give you a larger contact patch = better traction/handling
05-13-2010, 11:25 AM
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I would think the wider the tire, the more rolling resistance which would take more power to move the car and would also affect the mpg.
even if your effective gear ratio is the same..
rotational mass/inertia. its not all about the size, but also about the weight and the way it is distributed. although it is the same size overall, there is more metal and less rubber which throws off the weight and increases the rotational inertia. this will affect both acceleration and braking.
also with larger wheels, you have to fit smaller (narrower) tires in order to fit them without much fender mods (rolling and pulling), but with stock 17" rims you can fit 255/40/17 no problem which will give you a larger contact patch = better traction/handling
rotational mass/inertia. its not all about the size, but also about the weight and the way it is distributed. although it is the same size overall, there is more metal and less rubber which throws off the weight and increases the rotational inertia. this will affect both acceleration and braking.
also with larger wheels, you have to fit smaller (narrower) tires in order to fit them without much fender mods (rolling and pulling), but with stock 17" rims you can fit 255/40/17 no problem which will give you a larger contact patch = better traction/handling
05-19-2010, 12:46 PM
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it depends on what you want. do you want it to be flush or do you want to slam it? im running 19x8.5 and 19x9.5 +22 with rolled fenders and i can drop a considerable amount. 215/35/19 and 235/35/19 respectively. it sits flush in the front and the rear pokes a little
05-19-2010, 09:36 PM
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Go with the 19's they look much better, maybe its the quality of tires, but since I've gone with the 19's I haven't noticed any difference from the stock except I can corner slightly better than the stock tires other than that the ride/comfort is the same. I had the same issue, I was scared to go with the 19's because I thought I was going to lose the comfort of the ride but I didn't. Anywayz Good Luck!
Running 235/35/19 Front and Back with Yokohama S-Drive
Running 235/35/19 Front and Back with Yokohama S-Drive
05-20-2010, 09:38 PM
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^^nice wheels white_phantom.
I just got 18" Ronjon Liquid Graphite Legends and love them. I noticed NO difference in ride quality from the stock 17"s and I don't worry about damaging a wheel or replacing more expensive rubber on them. They are no slower either (probably lighter than stock)
I went with the stock width 235 to preserve the winter driving capabilities in case I don't spring for a winter set.
By the way, had to get this off my chest: Why do people insist on the staggered look on FWD cars. You can't rotate the wheels, have a harder time selling them, and they serve no purpose. IMO, you should just get a set of rear spacers if you want the look and then you can save money on tires and make it easier to sell in the end. Phew, I feel better
I just got 18" Ronjon Liquid Graphite Legends and love them. I noticed NO difference in ride quality from the stock 17"s and I don't worry about damaging a wheel or replacing more expensive rubber on them. They are no slower either (probably lighter than stock)
I went with the stock width 235 to preserve the winter driving capabilities in case I don't spring for a winter set.
By the way, had to get this off my chest: Why do people insist on the staggered look on FWD cars. You can't rotate the wheels, have a harder time selling them, and they serve no purpose. IMO, you should just get a set of rear spacers if you want the look and then you can save money on tires and make it easier to sell in the end. Phew, I feel better
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05-21-2010, 01:09 AM
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My 08 TL-S has Eibach pro-kit 1" drop for springs, 225/35/19 up front with 235/35/19 in the rear for tires. 20mm spacers front and rear with trimmed rear fenders and love it. The ride is stiff but more comfortable than the Wife's stock 04 M3.
06-03-2010, 07:09 PM
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I live in the downtown core right beside the Rogers centre. I am lowered on Eibach's with Tokico shocks and have 19" Axis Penta with a 245/35/19 and couldn't be happier with the ride. We just had a kid and the wife said I can lower it as long as its not stiff. I didnt even tell her when I lowered it until a couple days after to see if she noticed, and she didnt. I was also hesitant on going with 19's since I lived downtown but I guess with a 245, it rides really nice.
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