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Old Aug 16, 2011 | 09:57 AM
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Type-S Upper Mount (Top Hat) Kit

i ordered the type-s upper mount (top hat) kit from heeltoe for my 05 base TL. i needed them for my coilovers so i figured i might as well get the type-s kit with the upgraded rubber bushings. this kit will work on my base TL - correct?

http://www.heeltoeauto.com/Honda-Gen...-pr-63594.html
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Old Aug 16, 2011 | 10:05 AM
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the stiffer bushings will be awesome i think
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Old Aug 16, 2011 | 10:07 AM
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thanks man.

i'll be interested to see if i can tell the difference
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Old Aug 21, 2011 | 10:24 PM
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anyone know what the factory part numbers are on these ?
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Old Aug 21, 2011 | 11:17 PM
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anyone know what the factory part numbers are on these ?
http://www.acuraautomotiveparts.org/...s=&view=normal

Check the "Rear Shock Absorber" assembly for rear part numbers.
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Old Aug 21, 2011 | 11:19 PM
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Originally Posted by john_wrap
thanks man.

i'll be interested to see if i can tell the difference

Only way you'd know for sure is if you ONLY changed the top hats. With your new shocks/springs any difference will jsut be part of the overall improvement.
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Old Oct 4, 2011 | 11:06 PM
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Guys, Im interested in a set of the type s rubber hat bushings.. does anyone have the part numbers for front and rear so I can price them?

Im not being lazy, it's just that I got confused with all the part numbers on the diagram. Not sure which to choose. There are several rubber shock absorber. Thanks!
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Old Oct 4, 2011 | 11:24 PM
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Guys, Im interested in a set of the type s rubber hat bushings.. does anyone have the part numbers for front and rear so I can price them?

Im not being lazy, it's just that I got confused with all the part numbers on the diagram. Not sure which to choose. There are several rubber shock absorber. Thanks!
Number 18 in the link below for the front.

On that site, look up the "Rear Shock Absorber" and then the part in the same position for the rear; Item #20 in the Rear Shock diagram.



Originally Posted by Bearcat94
http://www.acuraautomotiveparts.org/...s=&view=normal

Check the "Rear Shock Absorber" assembly for rear part numbers.
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Old Oct 5, 2011 | 01:49 AM
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Question : for the base owners can we just buy the bushings and not the entire kit to save cost?
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Old Oct 5, 2011 | 06:43 AM
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^Yes, you will need 8 of the bushings for all 4 corners.
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Old Oct 5, 2011 | 12:55 PM
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Question : for the base owners can we just buy the bushings and not the entire kit to save cost?
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^Yes, you will need 8 of the bushings for all 4 corners.
Correct. But, imho, it's probably not worth doing unless you're going to have the car mostly torn down anyhow. It's a good bit of work to do for modest improvement. When you're already replacing shocks/springs, etc., is the very best time, imho.

I believe there is a positive impact, but it's "gravy" to a good suspension, not a main course.


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Old Oct 5, 2011 | 12:59 PM
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I just purchased the 8 bushings, waiting on heeltoe to ship them out.

will be installing these to compliment the aspec springs + koni yellows.
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Old Oct 5, 2011 | 03:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Bearcat94
Number 18 in the link below for the front.

On that site, look up the "Rear Shock Absorber" and then the part in the same position for the rear; Item #20 in the Rear Shock diagram.
Thanks for the info...

It looks like the front ones are part#: 51631-SEP-A01 for: $15.47

and the rear ones are part #: 51631-SEP-A01 also for: $15.47

There are listed for an 08 TL. I have an 04, will it still be ok?

Each shock absorber takes two of these though. Do you guys know if they sell in pairs? I think they should since you need two per shock.

Not sure though...

One last thing... I should be able to find tophats at a junkyard, no?

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Originally Posted by Bearcat94
Correct. But, imho, it's probably not worth doing unless you're going to have the car mostly torn down anyhow. It's a good bit of work to do for modest improvement. When you're already replacing shocks/springs, etc., is the very best time, imho.

I believe there is a positive impact, but it's "gravy" to a good suspension, not a main course.


I agree. I had to take my TEIN SS and put my stocks back on to get some warranty work done so I figured before throwing the suspension back in I'll upgrade these while they are outside.

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I just purchased the 8 bushings, waiting on heeltoe to ship them out.

will be installing these to compliment the aspec springs + koni yellows.

Question: What about those collars in the parts diagram? Aren't they needed too or aren't they different? Also why do we need to replace the rear when the steering feel is mainly in the front? Just curious?

And lastly how much did all 8 run?
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Old Oct 5, 2011 | 10:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Killabee44
Thanks for the info...

It looks like the front ones are part#: 51631-SEP-A01 for: $15.47

and the rear ones are part #: 51631-SEP-A01 also for: $15.47

There are listed for an 08 TL. I have an 04, will it still be ok?

Each shock absorber takes two of these though. Do you guys know if they sell in pairs? I think they should since you need two per shock.

....
Hey good catch. I thought front and rear had different part numbers, but you're right, they are the same; the part number you listed is what you want.

Yes you need 8 and I don't remember if they sold them as singles or pairs.



Originally Posted by Elegant TYPE S
I agree. I had to take my TEIN SS and put my stocks back on to get some warranty work done so I figured before throwing the suspension back in I'll upgrade these while they are outside.




Question: What about those collars in the parts diagram? Aren't they needed too or aren't they different? Also why do we need to replace the rear when the steering feel is mainly in the front? Just curious?

And lastly how much did all 8 run?
Good. I know I've been an advocate of these but would hate for someone to do all work just for bushings and then realize they only got a small benefit.

Collars should be OK. Same part for all TL's '95 -'12.

I only did the fronts in the '02 and it seems fine. If/when I do replace the rear shocks, I'll do them then.

About $125 for all 8.
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Old Oct 5, 2011 | 10:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Elegant TYPE S
Question: What about those collars in the parts diagram? Aren't they needed too or aren't they different? Also why do we need to replace the rear when the steering feel is mainly in the front? Just curious?

And lastly how much did all 8 run?
I am re-using my top hats. I suppose what you are talking about is included with the stock top hats.

I am replacing all 4 corners because I bought a whole suspension.
cant let the rears go to waste

this is where I bought them from:
http://www.heeltoeauto.com/product.php?productid=64843

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