Kajan_8

Sorry to reopen a really really old forum. I've need the OEM part numbers for the A Spec shocks and springs for a 2004 TL 6-Speed. Does anyone know cause I did a eibach springs + Monroe shock set up and the shocks are gone in 3 months. So I want the oem shocks. I just want to lower my car a bit. I have no issues with the ride I had. Thanks

TLtrigirl

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^^see post #40.

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I agree, you could probably ask for any aspec kit and they will all work the same, there's likely no difference and probably never was.

If your car needs new shocks anyway, Konis will lower your car up to 3/4" and they offer great performance while being less harsh than the Monroes. I really liked the way mine looked with a 3/4" drop in front and the subs lowering the rear about 1/2". It made more of a difference than I ever would have thought. The car didn't look like it had been lowered to most people which I liked but it made the car look so much better. They also work well over the whole stroke so lowering springs won't kill them.

The aspec springs and shocks are a great package and tuned for each other and the car. It's a great upgrade in handling, looks, and dynamics. It decreases under steer which most aftermarket springs increase. It does not lower the car as much as the Konis though.

zoostation

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Brembo to be specific

Kajan_8

i tried those part numbers and only the one for the automatic works. i need the updated one for the 6-speed. i went to the dealer, the guy asked me what aspec was, so no help there lol.

i was considering the konis but the a-spec tho...

cokorote

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@IHC but you have koni SP3 and they lower bit more and those are discontinued. The one on the market are koni sport.

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I wish I had the SP3 but I just have he regular Koni Yellows.

paperboy42190

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no. the 04-06 aspec base TL had aspec brake pads on the rear, for automatics only. The manual base TL's alrdy have brembos up front so a more aggressive rear brake pad wasnt necessary

I have the SP3's but Im not sure if they are any better than the koni yellows. I mean SP3's are older and discontinued right? doesnt older/discontinued usually mean not as good?

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I think they offered more height adjustments and would accept a lower spring even though the regular Sports will go very low. I have a feeling maybe they weren't worth the price difference to a lot of people. I *think* they were part of a kit by one of out vendors and only by one of our vendors. You would probably have to search back to '04 to find out for sure.

Did yours come with springs too? I can't remember if they had to be bought as part of a package deal. Yours are definitely not worse than the current ones. There were rumors that the non adjustable compression damping was firmer on yours. I wouldn't get rid of them and if you ever do , hit me up lol.

paperboy42190

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Yeah mine has 5 settings. but to most people, 3 settings is probably adequate because I think its just my 5 settings are in smaller intervals, with the overall range about the same as the 3 setting one. (I could be wrong about this though, I never compared side by side)

I bought them from my friend, who bought them brand new a couple years back, I think around 2010, I think he said it was from one of the vendors on here. He gave me the boxes and everything with the sale. The boxes fit the shocks only, so you can definitely buy them without buying springs. When he bought them he used the shocks with H&R springs.
These are probably going to stay on my car for the rest of its life

Slpr04UA6

IHC-yes, the SP3's were sold in a kit a number of years back called the "Neuspeed Supercup Kit" avail with sport springs (1.5-1.75" drop) or race springs, with (2-2.25" drop). Or something like that. The springs were Neuspeed. Am not sure if these SP3's were sold seperatly. Paperboy is correct, the lowest perch is same as the lowest perch on the Koni sports, just more perches in between.

I bought my kit of a local member, who never installed them. It was like $600 for shocks/springs. He chose the race springs, and I didn't want those at the time (I still have them brand new in box), so I picked up the H&R sports. Have contemplated using the race springs on the higher perch, to get a slightly stiffer spring rate. ? Always wanted to ask your opinion on that, cause H&R won't give out there spring rates.

Edit-copied from a link for Koni Neuspeed....

NEUSPEED KONI SHOCK - Developed by NEUSPEED Race Engineering and working with Koni engineers, we have developed a fully externally adjustable gas shock absorber for Acura and Honda applications. These shocks are exclusive to NEUSPEED and fully adjustable in seconds with just the turn of a knob. The NEUSPEED/Koni shocks also feature an adjustable spring perch to level the car (5 machined grooves on the shock body for 5 positions of adjustment) - the most desirable handling position, as well as, a 20mm shorter droop length for use on lowered vehicles.NotesDon't be fooled by companies that offer the same part number with the "Sport" not "SP3" moniker. Koni "Sport" do not offer as much ride height adjustment 2 grooves vs. NEUSPEED's 5 grooves and use a standard length piston rod.

Slpr04UA6

IHC-any input on the difference in the SP3's vs sports, with lowering springs? It seems as tho they are more tailored for the lowering spring with shorter piston rod length. Would appreciate your theory!

Kajan_8

Sooo no part numbers? Lol. I have a feeling that aspec for standards might be dis continued. If that were to be the case is it still possible to pick up adjustable koni's? I was told to initially put koni's in should of listen to my co-worker. Lol

TLtrigirl

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^^part numbers are located on the first page of the thread. if those do not meet your needs, then search for the other aspec suspension threads...i know there is a thread with a list of parts numbers (ask me how i know...) within it. however i cannot recall the two existing parts numbers, i know one ends in 202A...the other might be 201B. the question that many have had which was is specific to the MT and the AT.

i bought mine from curry acura and was told the kit with 202A was for MT. this was back in 2011.

rubenders

08w60-sep-201b is of mt I just got it for my tls. And 08w60-sep-202a. Is for auto.

TLtrigirl

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the minor issue is that their used to be a separate kit for the type-s MT and AT while the base models had an AT and MT version.

since the car is so damn old honda has discontinued most of the kits and it appears they only offer one or two of the kits these days. there has not been any confirmation that i know of that 202A is for AT or 201B is for MT. the descriptors provided on acura parts sites are vague at best.

rubenders

Look at all the factory sport suspension. http://www.oemacuraparts.com/?p=cata...tr=08w60-sep20

Stephen00TL

^ I agree, I have confirmed with several different dealers that the 201B is the manual transmission kit before I purchased it.

TLtrigirl

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There is no descriptor for the 202A kit. I was told 202A superseded 201A and 200A. The original part numbers for the 04-06 kits was 200A (MT) and 200 (AT) which are both discontinued long ago (I see the site has them, but whether it's really in stock is another question).

I suspect the 200B/201B and the 200C/201C is for the type-s (MT and AT).

Currently I believe there are really only two kits available, 202A and 201B. I'm sure the suspension kits will be discontinued just like many of the other Aspec parts have been over the years. The car is over 10 yrs old now.

Vlad_Type_S

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Really dumb question: how can I tell if my car came with A-Spec out of the factory. Wheel gap?

Stephen00TL

http://www.oemacuraparts.com/oem-par...08w60-sep-202a


It list the 202a kit for automatic

Kajan_8

The last one was the best help of all. Just In time for my tax return. Lol

Stephen00TL

I should be installing mine Sunday or next Tuesday I ordered the 201-B kit. I'll post pics after the install

zoostation

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Why did you decide on the B ?

wilztlxs

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cause its the one listed for MT

zoostation

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My bad.

Got my a's and b's mixed up.

I have an AT but I'm considering going the same way to get the additional drop.

Stephen00TL

Because I wanted the drop for the manual car since mine is a manual. I would get that kit for the automatic because it gives it a little more drop

wilztlxs

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yes, that is the kit to get for AT for the additional drop

Kajan_8

might wanna doubble check if it is inter-changeable as i know the manual has a doublbe wishbone suspension and auto is MacPherson set up. check it out before you order it.

wilztlxs

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04-08 TL, AT or MT, all use the same suspension

Kajan_8

I guess when I flowed this link I got confused.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/350499016367

Because when I chenged my shocks on my manual that's not how they look. They have a double wishbone piece that's attached to the shock.

wilztlxs

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the picture in that auction is wrong for the TL, looks like the RSX suspension

zoostation

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OK - So after about 6 months of research I have decided to go with the Aspec suspension kit made for the manual transmissions (it's going on my type s which has AT).

My hope is I don't regret the lack of drop, but I'm really not looking to slam the car (this time around). The goal is to make it look more aggressive and handle better. I also plan to add spacers at some point.

So my question to anyone that is running the A-Spec suspension is this. What is the preferred RSB for this setup?

Stephen00TL

A lot of people are running the progress rear sway bar. I have the progress rear sway bar but haven't installed it yet.

zoostation

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Thanks - Do you have a link?

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Which TL is it going on? If it's the base, the Progress 24mm on the soft setting will work well. The Comptech 22mm will work very well too.

If it's the TL-S, both of the swaybars mentioned will work but the Progress might be the better choice and it could be used on either soft or firm. Firm, even on the Type S will make it a little tail happy but not as bad as the base. I would lean toward the Progress since it's adjustable, you really can't go wrong.

The general rule that applies to most adjustable swaybars is on the soft setting a 24mm bar has the stiffness of a 23mm bar and on firm it has the stiffness of a 25mm bar. Of course, this can vary but it generally fits.

H&R makes a nice matched set of front and rear swaybars that are very high quality but kind of expensive. I have their front swaybar and it made probably the biggest difference out of every mod for high speed handling and stability.

Be careful about doing what everyone else is doing. I can tell you from having the TL on the track and on the street, at the limit with a 24mm rsb on a base model the car will be tail happy and even though it will feel like it handles better in daily driving, if you push the limit you will find that it slides easier than it did when stock.

zoostation

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It's going on the Type S. Great information. Thanks!

Stephen00TL

This is mine a couple days after the install

tomlinsonj

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She's sitting pretty nice! When you put the 18s on there and another month of driving you'll know what the final ride height will be. I know that experience varies, but my ASPEC settled an additional 3/16 or so after a couple months. All measurements were on level ground in my garage.

Stephen00TL

Thanks now I just have to find some 18's.