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Old 07-18-2008, 07:22 PM
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Tire Questions

My RJ Inspyres (18"), tpms sensors, and mcgard lugs are on its way!

Now I just need the tires.

I live in Hawaii so we don't get snow or anything and heavy rain is pretty rare.
That said, should I still get All Seasons, or just go with Summer tires?
The main factors most important to me are comfort, noise, and wear.

I'm looking at the following (all in 245/40):
All Seasons:
Yokohama AVID W4S
BFGoodrich G-Force Super Sport

Summer:
Yokohama S.Drive

Feel free to add any other suggestions.

Also, what PSI will tires need to be inflated to?
I'm guessing it's a bit more than the stock 33/32...


Any advice/input/suggestions are appreciated!
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If money is no option, then I would say go with Bridgestone Potenza RE960A/S. They have a treadwear rating of 400 as well, so they will last you a good bit.

Pressure wise, standard measure is 5 psi below max listed level on tires, running 18s you will be fine with running 38psi.
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I saw the RE960s and have great reviews, but it's a bit more than I'd like...
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Originally Posted by infinite_loop
I saw the RE960s and have great reviews, but it's a bit more than I'd like...
Definately good tires, I ran them for awhile on my ride in 19's.
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Go with the W4S. I sound like a broken record, but compare the section/tread width of the Yokihama W4S with that of the Bridgestone 960, or any other tire and you'll see the difference. I have the S.4, great tire but a little costly, but the W4S is the way to go. Bridgestone's are small.

I think you'll find that 38 lbs cold might be a little on the high side. I'd start with 34 and adjust accordingly.
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anyone have experience with the Toyo Proxes4?
I did a search and most of the threads with input on those tires are a bit older...
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Originally Posted by Fulani has a TL
If money is no option, then I would say go with Bridgestone Potenza RE960A/S. They have a treadwear rating of 400 as well, so they will last you a good bit.

Pressure wise, standard measure is 5 psi below max listed level on tires, running 18s you will be fine with running 38psi.
The RE960's seem to be the best AS on the market right now. Wet traction is supposedly phenomenal.
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Originally Posted by infinite_loop
anyone have experience with the Toyo Proxes4?
I did a search and most of the threads with input on those tires are a bit older...
People I know off the top of my head running proxes4 or have run proxes4 would be, 02typeS (tommy) and Distorted Reality (Jay) Both of them rollin proxes4 in 19s

Originally Posted by anx1300c
The RE960's seem to be the best AS on the market right now. Wet traction is supposedly phenomenal.
They are ridiculously nice. I rolled on them for a year on my 19s, never had one issues, plus they have a 400 treadwear rating. easily going to last you over 40K
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goodyear eagle F1 all season

420 rating

i just ordered a set after doing a lot of research...

got a set of 4 for 700, and i will get a rebate from tat live search stuff 20% back

on ebay...

check discount tire direct...they have some good deals
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Originally Posted by BlacuraTL-S
goodyear eagle F1 all season
They're just about a small as the Bridgestone's..Check the specs.
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I had a set of toyo prox 4's on my evo they lasted about 14k which is nearly twice what the ra-1, kumho mx's and advans lasted. As for grip they were no were near as grippy as the ra-1's or the advans 046 but were about as grippy as the kumho's which says alot as some track the kumho. They are a m&s tire, not to loud and smooth. The price is good on them also.
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Originally Posted by Turbonut
They're just about a small as the Bridgestone's..Check the specs.


im not sure i understand this??
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Originally Posted by BlacuraTL-S
im not sure i understand this??
245/45-17

Bridgestone-GoodYear-Yokohama-Yokohama
960AS-F1AS-S.4-W4S

Tread width
8.2"-8.4"-8.7"-9.2"

Section width
9.4"-9.6"-9.6"-9.7"

Hope this helps. Might as well purchase the largest footprint available if there's a choice, as long as the tires are of excellent quality, which they are..
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Originally Posted by Turbonut
245/45-17

Bridgestone-GoodYear-Yokohama-Yokohama
960AS-F1AS-S.4-W4S

Tread width
8.2"-8.4"-8.7"-9.2"

Section width
9.4"-9.6"-9.6"-9.7"

Hope this helps. Might as well purchase the largest footprint available if there's a choice, as long as the tires are of excellent quality, which they are..
I don't know why you're so obsessed with the Yoko's extra size. There are many reasons people like a narrower tire. They're better in the snow and rain and they also make the car react more quickly to steering input.

I just ordered the Potenza 960 A/S from Tirerack, but ended up going with the 245/45/17 which has a tread width of 8.2, still 1/10 narrower than the Yoko Advan in 235/45/17. It was a tough choice between the two tires. Both have their high merits, but the 960's purportedly better rain/snow traction won me over. The Advan is supposedly a little better in the dry. One thing that sucks about the Potenzas is their extra weight and supposed negative effect on fuel economy.

Originally, I'd been looking at the Goodyear F1, but man, way too many horror stories about cupping and excessive noise after the 10k mark. And these were not on dropped, modded suspension TL's, but stock ones, as well as other makes/models.
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if i was considering a summer tire, it would be the general exclaim uhp
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Originally Posted by anx1300c
I don't know why you're so obsessed with the Yoko's extra size. There are many reasons people like a narrower tire. They're better in the snow and rain and they also make the car react more quickly to steering input.

I just ordered the Potenza 960 A/S from Tirerack, but ended up going with the 245/45/17 which has a tread width of 8.2, still 1/10 narrower than the Yoko Advan in 235/45/17. It was a tough choice between the two tires. Both have their high merits, but the 960's purportedly better rain/snow traction won me over. The Advan is supposedly a little better in the dry. One thing that sucks about the Potenzas is their extra weight and supposed negative effect on fuel economy.

Originally, I'd been looking at the Goodyear F1, but man, way too many horror stories about cupping and excessive noise after the 10k mark. And these were not on dropped, modded suspension TL's, but stock ones, as well as other makes/models.
I'm just trying to help the uneducated people as to the difference in tire construction between brands. Many don't realize that there is a difference within a designated size. Many believe 245/45-17 tires are identical dimensionally. They then can make their decision as to what they want to purchase.

At least I didn't say I'd never own another Bridgestone after 3 sets.

If size doesn't matter, why would you go to a larger size?
Why not stay with 235?
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For Hawaii-- Go with the General Exclaim UHP Ultra High Performance- while tirerack tested and rated #1 as summer tire- they are rated M&S on them-so ok for snow use
They work awesome in the heavy rain - AA wet braking rating- thats the highest,- and super hang on sticky in the dry!
Great price too- about 100 per tire

All season tires are made with different rubber that does well in sub freezing temps
Summer tires dont like below 32F so much- but they are designed for summer downpour rains- that is why you see so many v groove summer tires, otherwise they would look like race tires with a single band around them- now thats a summer tire!!
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Originally Posted by Turbonut
I'm just trying to help the uneducated people as to the difference in tire construction between brands. Many don't realize that there is a difference within a designated size. Many believe 245/45-17 tires are identical dimensionally. They then can make their decision as to what they want to purchase.

At least I didn't say I'd never own another Bridgestone after 3 sets.

If size doesn't matter, why would you go to a larger size?
Why not stay with 235?
I never said size didn't matter. I guess I was more or less replying to your quote "might as well purchase the largest footprint available if there's a choice", which isn't the greatest advice for ultimate poor weather traction or responsiveness. I decided to give up a small measure of these attributes and go a size wider in order to gain some ultimate dry grip, especially in first gear. The Turanzas are absolutely worthless in first and part of second gear on a six speed, especially one with full bolt-ons. I probably should've gone with the Advan S4's though, since they're a somewhat better dry handling tire. The 235's would've been wide enough in that tire. The 245 Advan would start to hinder Winter driving.
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Thanks guys.

Just got the Yokohama W4S tires installed on the new RJ Inspyres today.
So far so good! Although I've only driven about 15 miles on them! Haha.
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Can't go wrong with Yokos.
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Originally Posted by anx1300c
I never said size didn't matter. I guess I was more or less replying to your quote "might as well purchase the largest footprint available if there's a choice", which isn't the greatest advice for ultimate poor weather traction or responsiveness.
This is true as some need to be cautious of various weather conditions that might be encountered throughout the year. Normally someone that purchases RJ Inspyres isn't going to be driving them in the snow/salt, not to mention he's in Hawaii.

Actually there is an ongoing battle on tall thin vs wide tires for snow/ice conditions, but that's a thread for another day.
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