Gil'sUA5

The Tien S Techs dont go low enough for my liking, the H&R's have such a nice drop that its worth giving up a bit of ride comfort. Believe me when i tell u that the worst feeling is installing lowering springs and not being low enough. With the H&R's you wont be slammed but you WILL completely get rid of wheel gap, ive had many different lowering springs and these give by far the best drop and the ride is not as harsh as people say it just is very harsh COMPARED to the S Tech's.

Acura_Swag

Well dis thread really worked for me with the pics and all im going wit da h&r race im ordering dem today finally. Hopefully members come across this thread instead of makin so many other threads about the same thing

foxriderar77

Does anyone know of the ride quality of the H&R Race vs. the S-Techs vs. Type S springs? I like the drop of the S-Techs and everyone says they're not too harsh but I don't want them to be softer than what I have now

Gil'sUA5

You didnt even bother reading huh?

foxriderar77

I just reread and there was no mention of the S-tech ride compared to the stock Type-S ride. I thought that the type S was a bit stiffer than stock or am I wrong?

CLtotheTL32

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From what I understand, the Type-S suspension is the firmest among the stock suspension, but I'm not sure how comparable it is to aftermarket springs.

foxriderar77

No one seems to have any info on the difference between type-s and aftermarket or the actual spring rate of the Type S springs, has anyone found this?

Gil'sUA5

The S Tech's will probably ride a bit softer than your Type S suspension so you might not like it since you're used to the stiff ride of the Type S suspension, the A Spec suspension is also pretty stiff. Not for nothing but to be honest if you can afford a Type S why would you go the cheap route and get springs instead of full coilovers? I mean you'll have fully adjustable dampening and height adjustment with most coilovers so my overall recommendation for you would be to not even bother with springs. I have an old 05 BASE and im going for the coils and you have a nicer/much more expensive model than mine *shrugs*

Gil'sUA5

Grading them by firmness/stiffness (#1 being most stiff)

1) H&R
2) Type S
3) Tein S. Tech

foxriderar77

I was trying to keep my car project pretty low key, but if I want a stiffer ride by the time I buy H&Rs and a set of struts I might as well buy a set of coilovers.

johnfilice

So the S techs are even softer than factory type-s springs? Hard to believe with the amount of drop they provide, anxious to see if that is the case. Usually lower means stiffer.

Are Type-s springs different than base model springs?

CLtotheTL32

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Yes.

johnfilice

When I bought my car, it was less than 1k more for the type-s so i didn't really break the bank on it compared to base. Im at 60k miles so I am going to use lowering springs until my struts go and then probably do coilovers at that point. Might be counter productive but if my struts last to 100k miles I will be happy.

johnfilice

Finally got my S-Techs installed today, and I'm very happy with the results. First impression is that cruising it feels almost 100% stock, going over bumps it is about 15-20% stiffer. Putting the rear sway bar in helped with cornering some, but this reduced my body roll to almost nothing.

Heres a few pics:

Before:





After:

Gil'sUA5

Yup pretty much same as stock but when cornering and what not you feel that its stiffer, your car looks good with the drop. Its still a bit high for my personal liking though id want to go about an inch lower and add the a-spec kit.

96SC4

it should settle in some more...
looks good, johnfilice

johnfilice

I might do the side skirts and rear bumper at some point, but I'm not a fan of the type-s a-spec on the front. Looks really bulky and changes the whole look of the front.

If I could put on the base model 07-08 a-spec on I would rather do that.

nttstt444

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Looking clean! Love the drop. 07/08 base lip will fit. I also think it looks much better.

Steven Bell

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That looks good.

johnfilice

Doesn't it require some modification? It's been awhile since I've looked into it. I believe around the fog lights.

johnfilice

Thanks for the compliments guys. Going through turns going 60 feels like I'm going 40.

nttstt444

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^if it does require any modification its not much at all. There might be a DIY in the 3G garage.

Chad05TL

What size wheels / tires are these?

cust0mx

I am having the same dilemma right now. I can get a set of Koni Sport Shocks & H&R springs for $720 shipped. I already bought new tophats made up of all OEM parts which cost $120 shipped.

Tein SA coilovers $870 shipped

Konis + H&R $720 shipped

ISC Coilovers + free ingalls camber kit ~$1000 shipped

I'm leaning towards the Konis, only because from what I've read they make a great shock and the car will ride like it's stock. The springs will give about a 1.4-1.5" drop which clears the wheel gap, and if I need more, I can drop it another .8" via the shocks. Yes the coils provide customization, but once you find a good height, it's not like you're going to be adjusting the height all that frequently.

HanCam

Have had stechs on two of my previous cars and cant say enough good things about them. Just placed an order for some for the tl. Pics coming soon!

Chad05TL

Some people say the a-spec is the firmest of the stock springs

paperboy42190

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it is, no doubt about that

Gil'sUA5

you'll be adjusting it at least a couple times a year depending on weather because here in the north east with the snow most people lift their cars up and then when the spring comes around they go low again, so its a priceless tool to be able to adjust the height whenever need be. Also remember you can adjust dampening not just height with coil overs (most of them besides the cheap ones).

PowerSergNY

llllBULLSEYE , Can you message me on where you had yours done? Im in L.I. and looking to the S Techs springs as well.
Thx

Chad05TL

Are a-spec springs stiffer than the S-tech? And how do you know which feels stiffer? Because no one knows the spring rate of oem base or a-spec springs. So, you would have to have ridden in both or have friends that have both. Because there are no numbers to compare.

Excelerate

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I highly doubt it. A-Spec are not firm at all. They are still an OE spring. The S-Tech springs will be firmer, but they aren't stiff.

sams24

By the way guy's if your goal it to be low go for the coilover.
i have race spring since 3 month i like the stance but wanna go lower
so during this winter i cal my TEIN basic

hiphop23j

Trying to debate this myself, i had the koni yellow/nuespeed sport springs but i feel like either getting s-techs for better ride or the tien coilovers and call it a day.

Devil_Doc1988

Hey gents, just picked up my car a few months ago and will have some extra money after the holidays to invest in the car. After much research I'm basically on the same page as cust0mx. I THOUGHT I'd decided on H&R Race w/ Koni Yellows, until I found this thread. My issue is I love the drop with the Race springs and am wondering if paired with the Koni's if the firmness will give some? Making it more with an STech feel with Race drop, if you will? Basically not wanting to cringe THAT badly on potholes. Also, after looking at the prices I'm starting to shop for coilovers but not sure how much use I'll get out of them as I don't see myself ever adjusting them. Thanks

Phinney

My car is bone stock right now, about to order the Tein S techs. Do I need to get spacers? I'm new to this and have no idea what spacers are nor their purpose.

tb330

Just finished my S-tech install. Drop is perfect in my opinion, but the ride quality has deteriorated a bit. I think the stock shocks may need to be replaced, not a ton of miles on them, but being 8 years old they have definitely seen better days. Ill report back once I get new ones on there and see how it rides.

CLtotheTL32

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No. Spacers are used to push the wheels towards the outside of the car, to make them "flush" with the fender. You do not have to buy them to make your springs work.

Phinney

Where could i purchase spacers?

CLtotheTL32

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Search around on Google. Akata, H&R, and Ichiba are fairly common brands, but there are more out there.

Phinney

Do you have spacers installed on your car?