chokin

I'm not an expert on that, I was at 120k when I installed my coilovers. I reused the old one, so I guess you can just get the OEM one?

chokin

guys, if i add 15mm F and 20mm R spacers, do i need to roll my fenders?

Wacker

It depends on the tire width you run. I had 245's on my stock rims and had to roll the rear. I think with a 335 or 225 you will be fine.

chokin

i think i have 245 all around, its continental DWS.

Wacker

You will need to roll the rear of the rear fenders then. Not hard to do.



That is if you go as low as me.

chokin

i tried to avoid rolling the fender, dont want to get rust if not done properly. How low did you go?

Undying Dreams

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Just take it to someone you feel you can trust. I ended up having Rockstar roll mine. I was his first real customer I think he did an excellent job. He used an Eastwood roller and a heat gun. (Fronts required some dremeling to cut a tab).

I was scared of it at first too but in reality, all they're doing is heating the fender to make it flexible and then rolling the inner lip flat with the fender.

Gregerst

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I bought an eastwood roller and used it on mine. It's not too hard you just want to take your time and roll it back a little at a time. If I still had it I'd let you borrow it. But you can rent them off ebay for like $60. Def use a heat gun but I'd wait until the weather warms up though. This year has been a winter from hell and seems like it's never gonna end. Warmer weather will help a lot with the paint / metal being more pliable and avoid paint chipping. I had some chipping on mine but I used touch up paint and clear coat. I'm not worried about it.

Excelerate

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The TEIN SB are like the TEIN SA with damping set between 8-10 (1 being the softest and 16 being the stiffest).

Gregerst

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^^ Well there you have it folks. If you have no intention of fiddling around with damper settings and just want the drop and a comfortable ride save yourself some money and go with the Basis. I can assure you that the middle setting on the SA is very much like oem springs and is not harsh or stiff at all. I actually increased mine to 10 just so it was a tad sportier.

Wacker

The basis are much much firmer than stock. I own two 3rd gen TL's and one is still on the stock suspension and there is a night and day difference. The wife hated my basis at first. We usually drive my car most of the time though to keep the miles off of her nicer TL and she has gotten used to it enough that she is ready for me to drop hers now. I will just be doing "S-Tech" springs on hers though.

Gregerst

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See maybe this is why there's never been a consensus on the basis ride quality. Some ppl say it's comfortable other's say its not. I always thought it was just the person's subjective opinion. But maybe the coils are not consistently the same, some are stiffer than others or maybe it has to do with the install?
But based on what Excelerate says and where my coils are set the ride is definitely not harsh at all.

Wacker

Never said harsh but very firm.

chokin

today i found out that i have 235 tires, not 245 lol

Wacker

You aren't thuper low either. Drop it and space it.

chokin

i cant go any lower, because i am scraping my bottom when i enter the underground garage.

Recon_45

Spacers? Im wondering what size spacers i should get for my vehicle to give it somewhat of a poke to the wheels? I've heard anywhere from 15mm to 25mm.So far I'm running the stock 17 in wheels.Any input would be highly appreciated.

ATLS_666

I have these coilovers and they suck. Its not even lowered that much. I got them brand new for dirt cheap so I guess that evens it out.

Bouncy is all I have to say. It doesn't absorb imperfections very well. On freshly paved roads its tolerable but if your roads are not in the best shape, don't even consider these.

chokin

Installed 20mm spacer in the rear. I still need to order 15mm spacer for the front.

Recon_45

^ where did you get yours from?

chokin

eBay, here is the link

Recon, have you done your alignment yet?

http://www.ebay.com/itm/20MM-ACURA-SPACERS-5X114-3-CB-64-1-W-STUDS-ATTACHED-BLACK-ANODIZED-/330895250095?pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&vxp=mtr&hash=item4d0ae4d2af

350

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Anyone have their Basis set to the max height and have any pics? I'm torn between these and A specs cause I don't want to go more than an inch, I go down one driveway frequently that is very steep and with stock suspension I have a little over an inch in the middle of the car clearance. So if I do go with these I'd leave them probably at the max setting.

jiggaman

i think mine are clost to max height, send me a message with your email address and i can send you pics.

previously i was running lower and used to have occasional scraping issues over speedbumps or dealing with steep entrance ways. with current height i haven't scraped on anything so far.

ATLS_666

Get the Aspec suspension^^

Wacker

I think that it's incredible that you are the ONLY one on this thread that has had a negative thing to say about these coils. I would point towards your bushings being in a bind causing the bouncing effect before blaming the coils. I have put over 10,000 miles on my coils and live them. I noticed a huge improvement in ride, and the height dropped 1/2 inch when I "unloaded" my bushings.

When our bushings are installed on our cars, they are installed and torqued at stock ride height. So when we lower the car, it puts a tremendous amount pelf torsional pressure on the bushings.

The way to unload them is to jack the car, remove a wheel, put a block or jack stand or jack under that wheels suspension and lower the car to put the vehicles weight back on the suspension.

On the front listen the LCA bushing bolt and the UCA bushing bolts. You will see and hear the center of the bushing rotate as the stress is relieved.

On the rear, put vehicles weight on the suspension. Loosen and re tighten all the arm busing bolts (except the toe adjustment....DON'T touch that one). Also do the bushing at the base of the rear shock.

Some of these bushings actually "popped" into place on my car when I did this. The car was also significantly lower (especially in the front).

The difference in the ride was notable!!! I never said anything to the wife about doing this and when she rode in the car the next time she said "Ohhh your shocks have really settled in. This thing rides sooo much better than it did when you first put them on!!" Music to mah ears!!!

This procedure is very straight forward yet nobody ever talks about it. I am thinking about doing a writeup with pictures sometime.

But honestly...... ATLS_666....Try this and see what you think. I'm sure you won't, and will continue to talk trash about one of the best kept secrets in coilovers on the market, but its worth the shot.

rockstar143

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I may do this too thanks for the tip, John...

ATLS_666

^^ its worth a shot

Predatorbird

Make a writeup, I've never heard anyone mention this before. It would be good info to show my installer if I get these coils down the road.

rockstar143

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It's a good idea for anyone that's changed the stock ride height, actually...I guess key is to stack the wood high enough to mimick the exact height of the hub when the rim is installed and sitting on it's own weight.

I'm going to do this next time I'm going to rotate tires.

Wacker

Will do. Hopefully ill have time to do it this weekend.

Wacker

The only drawback is that IF your bushings are under load and you release that tension, it will affect your ride height and allignmnet. So, you will need to get an alignment......again. Luckily I did mine the day before I got my last alignment.

ilovemyteggy92

I'm also looking to order these right now... just wanted to see what my fellow 3rd Gen TL owners had to say about em. Seems like they are pretty legit!

WhiteUA6Ninja

I maxed out mine. Not thatlow but i dont want scraping everywhere so i put it up

sams24

Someone have picture with tein basic maxed out on stock wheel?

bluetl04

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Back is maxed out and the front has less than a 1/4 inch from being maxed out. So basically it will look like this...

sams24

Ok thanks
i have same color
now i need to buy my aspec lip kit an coilover

Doh21061

What size rim and tire you on?

Doh21061

Never mind nothing went through the whole thread

hiphop23j

Would these be good for the nyc streets?

Excelerate

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Yes, they are the best daily driver setup IMO. Good ride quality, good handling, sporty spring rates (but not stiff), a fair amount of ride height adjustment range, and if you get the TEIN Street Advance you will also get damping adjustment.