Coebee

Recently put 19's Niches on my 04 with 245/40 Dunlops. Car rolls too much and rubs when corning at speeds. (not sure how anyone with 19's or 20's don't have rubbing, exspecailly if they have lower the car). Only 22K on the car so stock shocks shoud still be ok. Not sure to go with stiffer shocks or combo shocks with front and rear sway bar. Not a track car but driver is a bit of a racer , , , Suggestions greatly appreciated

Cocoa

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Roll your fenders if you're having too much of an issue with rubbing.

Stiffer shocks will help, but to what degree are you willing to sacrifice ride comfort (with the assumption you'd prefer a comfortable ride)?

I'm assuming you're rubbing in the front correct? You can always go with negative camber, but I doubt that's the route you want to go. You could get a front sway, but that will induce more understeer (it wouldn't help with rubbing when driving over bumps though, just hard cornering). So it seems like stiffer suspension and rolling your fenders are your 2 best options.

Bearcat94

Front Sway Bar is a stone cold bitch to change, based on all I've read; something related to the subframe and the routing of the bar (try SEARCH for more detail). I don't know of anyone on here that has done it. It would certainly be a very uncommon/rare mod, and generally unnecessary from a handling OR rubbing perspective.

Are you saying you are rubbing but NOT dropped?

Which Niche Wheel exactly and what width? What wheel offset?

Regardless. my *guess* is you've got the "wrong" wheel/tire combo. LOTS of people running 18's, 19's and 20's not rubbing; most are dropped. I think most on 19's run 235.

You need advice form one of the wheel fitment gurus (King Fitment Guru = stillhere153 ).

ifirahse

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I'm pretty sure when you got 19's you gotta get lower profile tires than 245/40/19.

Fulani has a TL

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Front sway bar is a PITA to change out. Like ifirahse says, you should be rolling on 245/35/19.

I am confused at whether or not you are dropped... If you are, then you have to raise the front up. If not you can get a rear sway bar which will control the body roll, but even a body roll on.

But your main issue is the tires themselves. let me show you in numbers...

stock tire size 235/45/17. Overall Diameter is 25.32 inches; section width is 9.25.

YOUR tire size 245/40/19. Overall Diameter is 26.71 inches; section width is 9.64.

Now if you ran 245/35/19. Overall Diamater is 25.75 inches; section width is 9.64.

the issue you are running into is that your 245/40/19 tires are actually 1.4 inches TALLER than the stock 235/45/17 tires. If you are dropped, thats a BIG NONO.

EDIT:

Change your tires to 235/35/19 or 245/35/19 and you will be fine (if your not dropped more than 1" go with the 245/35/19)

leedogg

nobody changes the fsb around here. Your single handedly best mod to combat roll, is upgrading the rsb, followed by the suspension.

To me, the RSB handled the rolls and the suspension made it feel like i was on rails (sharp, crisp, responsive turning)

not sure what suspension without the rsb would feel like though...

stillhere153

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According to marcus @ heeltoeauto, the front sway bar is good for straight line high speed, not so good for cornering

If you are rubbing with 19" wheels u must be rolling on the wrong setup as mentioned above

If you are running a 40 sidewall the width must be 225 or 215... On a 19" diameter

If you are running a 35 sidewall the width can vary between 235 and 255.. On a 19" diameter

Depending on the width and offset of the wheel it could also lead to rubbing

What are your specs.... I can help guide you in the right direction simply by knowing your current setup...

Either post on here or pm me I will try and hook you up hommie

Coebee

MAN ! Thanks much for the responses, this is great.
For the questions - I have NOT lower my car, adding the wheels and tires is the only mod I have done. Niche Venice, 19 x 8.5, the offset is 45. Ws concerned with the 35 profile as beeing too low but perhaps I was wrong.
Rubbing is primarily in the rear because I let the car roll thru the corners, trying not to dive in. Did think about rolling the fenders but not sure how many folks have done that.(will read up on that).
Thought the RSB would be the best for me driving style, along with little stiffer shock. (recomendations ?) Not real concerned with a stiffer ride, just want the car to be there when I want it to be. Read the issues with the FSB, not sure I want to mess with that, just stop the roll and firm up the ass end a little.
Also need to find a place in No Va, outside of the dealer, that maybe someone else has used, if anyone has any suggestions.
Again, thanks everyone.

Fulani has a TL

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Based on the information that you provided, you should go down to a 35 series tire as your current setup tires are incorrect. And look into the sway bar to minimize body roll. No real need to change your shocks as that is not the problem because you are rubbing when your car is diving during corners.

But Im sure Al will correct me if I am wrong on this

DMZ

How 'bout not driving crazy !

ifirahse

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Shouldn't you be telling him to get off your lawn!

DMZ

That was Chrishtafa's lawn!

twigglius

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235x35x19 FTW!

mishar

Your offset must be quite less than 45.

Coebee

Are you saying a "rule" the offset must be quite a bit less or are you thinking what I purchased must have been less than 45 offset ?
what I read everywhere was the offset could be between 35 to 50 , , ?

Coebee

trust me, not a crazy driver but everyone wants to know what the car will do from time to time. Straight line is fun but not like cornering. I respect all of the bumps and all of that for sure but those Off and On Ramps are just too much fun , , , I will look into the progress and possible change to 35's.

mishar

I think that rims you purchased have smaller offset than 45. Check it.