tarponman85

Well First of all here are the wheels and the drop. They are 19X8.5 jaz Trinity 35mm offset on eibach pro kit springs. Tires are Falken 452 245/35/19








Ok... Now for the problem. I hope someone can help.
The wheels and the drop where done on monday. The Drivers Side rear wheel rubs when there are people in the back seat. It also appears to be sitting further out than the passanger rear wheel. I was told by the shop and by friends of mine to wait untill friday to get a 4 wheel alginment and that should clear everything up. During acceleration, braking, or just trying to drive straight the car pulls to the right, so I know for a fact that an alignment is needed. My questions are.
1) should I wait longer to get the alignment.( I have read 2 weeks is about the norm)
2) what would be causing only ONE wheel to rub, could it be that the camber is out of whack. Maybe the toe, caster, or something else is not in specs.
3)the camber kit sticky says you dont really need a camber kit, Could this be an exception.

Any Info On why only one wheel is rubing, would be greatly appreciated. I cant justify the tires being to tall as many of aziners are running this setup, AND ONLY ONE STINKIN WHEEL RUBS. If the tires were to tall then I would think that both rear wheels would rub.

Thank you

crzygosu87

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1) According to my understanding, you should get an alignment asap once you've replaced any suspension components that will lower the car, including new wheels/tires.
2) It could have been due to an unequal weight distribution on the left and right side of your car. Also when you say rub are you referring to when you tilt the steering wheel in one direction to the extreme for turns? As for camber, negative camber is a beneficial thing in terms of driving performance in the curves and such; however it does lead to excessive tire wear if you don't rotate them from time to time. So if you decide not to purchase a camber kit, just remember to rotate them accordingly.

Again, this is just according to what I know. No doubt someone with more knowledge on this topic will pop up in time. Gluck

tarponman85

Well it rubs when I go over dips in the road or pulling out of a steep driveway. and its only on that one rear drivers side wheel.

Kennedy

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1) You should have your alignement checked anytime you much with ride height... Withing the first couple of days. I always give it about 100 miles to let the suspension settle in before I align.
The rear alignment MAY help.

2) Due to camber geometery, installing a camber kit "fixes" the camber spec, but changes the wheel travel geometery. By pulling the top edge of the tire out to fix the camber, it will increase your chances of rubbing as the suspenson is compressed. If you're rubbing now, a camber kit will make your rubbing worse.

3) Re-read the camber kti sticky. You never "need" a cmber a kit, unless that camber number being in spec is really important to you. I don't have one.

Ballinfizzle had a similar issue. His right rear corner had been in a wreck, and thus was tweaked abit and causing the rub. Is this an issue for you?

Have you tire rolling your rear fenders a bit to see if that clears it up?

tarponman85

Nope, never in a crash and have not tried to roll the rear fenders. I thought about rolling them but I would like to figure out why just one of them is rubbing.

So if I get an alignment and nothing happens (meaning one wheel still rubs) should I just roll the fenders.

What I'm trying to get at is.....why the one wheel and not both wheels are rubbing. I would think that something on that one side has to be out of whack? Right? and if something is out of whack " what is" and "how can I fix it"....

mishar

Your offset is too small. Your tires stick out for ~22 mm (7/8”).

Alignment might help, but also make it worse. Anyways you should do it as soon as possible.

Camber kit can help if you adjust more negative camber, which is not really ideal think to do. It wont cause extensive wear but it would look bad.

Only one wheel rubs because car body is not ideally symmetrical. If it is right wheel or if it pools to the left it might be alignment, but as it is I don’t think so. As a matter of fact alignment can easily make it worse.

ed99

Nice wheels by the way!!!! I had these wheels 2yrs ago and I had no problem rubbing and my TL was lowered 2.25inches. I had a full load of people and it never rubbed what so ever. So I am assuming your alignment is off causing it to rub. In fact, if my memory serves me right I even had a good 10mm space in between the sidewall and fender. So it sounds to me like an alignment issue. But don't forget my tires were tucked under the fender due to negative camber.

GLowrdr

I keep drooling over all of the lowered TL's on this site. I gotta get that done.. maybe in the spring.

Hate to say it man - but I personally don't care for the rims. A bit too Impala-ish for me. I think I'm going to look into getting some thinner spoke 5-stars metallics, with a chrome outter lip.

01tl4tl

The car does not weigh evenly on each wheel. On gen2 cars we have to modify the tab inside the rear fender lip at the top to rear portion of the fender lip.

Get it aligned right away before you wear the tires badly. If you didnt install a camber kit, the only adjustment is toe.

260 HP

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I bet the rubbing side has more positive camber than the other.

It's common that left and right camber, toe and caster differ slightly. Especially on these cars that has no camber adjustment.

Just like mishar said, if your driver's side rear camber is still well within spec, getting a camberkit might help. But adjust it so it gives you more negative camber instead of positive. By making it more negative, you're also moving the top of the wheel inward and away from the fender well lip. That's if you don't want to roll your fender.

260 HP

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ed99, didn't you use 235/35 R19?

I saw the Falken FK 452 and they're larger than my Dunlop DZ101 of the same size. That's also why some people are rubbing while some others don't.

Kennedy, you're on Falken 452, too, right? What size? Do you rub?

ed99

Wow..you have good memory!! I was running on 235/35/19 FK451 back then. However, I had a good 10mm clearance and maybe 245 would be cutting it close maybe??

BrianC636

How's the ride compared to stock?

tarponman85

The ride compared to stock is not that different. It feels a tad bit firmer but its no where near as stiff as my old mans 350Z...(that thing is stiff) I can tell you that it corners better and feels a lot more stable around the corners. If you are worried about the ride if you drop it.....DONT BE....all in alI I would say the ride is firmer but not stiff...lol.

underst8

One thing to keep in mind is you should not get an alignment ASAP, as your new springs need to settle and if you get it aligned a day after you install them you will just need to get it aligned again soon because it will have changed with the settling. 50 miles of driving and sitting overnights should settle them to where they will more or less stay...then get it aligned unless it is an emergency.

260 HP

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Thanks!

The width difference between 235/35 and 245/35 R19 is indeed 10 mm. So yes, if you have large 235/35 R19 like Falken or Kumho, you're ok, but when you go up one size, you might rub.

ndabunka

My wheels are 19x8/30mm offset Privat Netz that a number of guys on here have. Mine ALSO rubs ONLY on the drivers side and ONLY on speed bumps and heavy cornering. I've been told that once I drop it even a little bit, it will go away but the (drivers side) rub happens so sparingly already that I simply haven't bothered to change anything. I did have Acura review it when they did a 4-wheel alignment a little over a year ago and it did not change a thing to fix the rub. I think some of it is the fact that my 200lbs contributes "just enough" to the balance to promote the rub or that the car is simply made that way or that the inside wheels well farings are in there differently or that I could roll the fenders or that... I think you get the idea. My recommendations, Then go back and pull each wheel FIRST (BEFORE ANY alignment) to see if there are some spacers in the wheels (prior owner of wheels or installer error or whatever) that may be pushing that particular wheel out more than the others. Also, did the car pull BEFORE the wheels? If not, then it shouldn't pull afterwards. It's not like changing the wheels themselves would change your camber or anything (the drop, maybe, but not the wheels themselves)

ballinfizzle89

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It's probably because of the 245 tires. Check under the passenger rear side with ur fingers and see if there is any greasy tire residue on that side as well

ndabunka

PS - Mine are also 245-series tires & yes, I "can" also "make" the rider's side rub but it does take a FOCUSED effort and VERY hard cornering (under full throttle) to do so. I have a feeling this is similar to the initial poster as well. The drivers side rubs simply by going over a speed bump (a little faster than necessary but not over 10 MPH). Rider side...not a peep. Make a typical hard right hand turn, theres the chirp rub on riders side. Make a typical hard left... nada. Make HARD left under accel and theres a minor rub on the riders side.

tarponman85

Someone just told me that the reason that only one side rubs is due to the fact that we make more right turns than left turns..... Any one agree with this.

erick3

ah...don't you just love it man? family acurazine TO THE RESCUE. helped me out w/ my drop problems too...

get an alignment first and go from there. i waited a good week before i got my alignment; they may drop a tad bit, but not THAT much...i'd say a week or two is fine.

erick3

k seriously...c'mon...SERIOUSLY...c'mon haha

MikeCLS6

the lip on your car doesnt look as polished as other jazz trinity wheels i have seen

tarponman85

Malayalee King

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maaan where are ppl still finding trinitys lol

tarponman85

Miami Florida