Inner tire wear due to a bad Compliance Bushing?
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Inner tire wear due to a bad Compliance Bushing?
I have an '08 TL-S which has about 45K on it. I started noticing the inner tire wear at 25-30K. I took my car into an alignment shop and they said that they are all within the spec. From my Google research, these are caused by bad LCA Bushing and I do inspect mine and I see the crack on the rubber. Recently, it started making a little grinding noise during stopping, accelerating, or during a shift from 1 - 2. I think maybe it was the bushing rubbing metal to metal?
Has anyone had any success with the FastLine Compliance Bushing from HeelToe?
https://www.heeltoeauto.com/bushing-...aring.pr..html
A few shop around my San Jose,CA just wanted to replace the whole arm as they don't want to use a 3rd party parts. I believe the replacement arm bearing will fail again in 20-30K miles.
Any advice would be appreciated.
Has anyone had any success with the FastLine Compliance Bushing from HeelToe?
https://www.heeltoeauto.com/bushing-...aring.pr..html
A few shop around my San Jose,CA just wanted to replace the whole arm as they don't want to use a 3rd party parts. I believe the replacement arm bearing will fail again in 20-30K miles.
Any advice would be appreciated.
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I'm not sure how well or how long an unbooted spherical bearing will last on a street car. I'm sure PCI makea good stuff. But...it may be the wrong application.
OEM honda replacements should last at least 50-100K miles or more...even for the stiffer TLS bushing. I've seen good ones on a V6 Accord close to 200K miles.
You can buy replacement bushings from Honda. Or buy the whole arm. Buying the whole arm has advantages including replacement of ALL the bushings in the arm...and they're all pressed in, ready to go. Pressing bushings is expensive unless you're doing it yourself.
Remember, for god's sake, to properly clock the (rubber) bushings after installing the arm...or you'll tear them in a very short span. The suspension should be at ride height before tightening the bolts.
If you go the bushing route, buy Honda genuine parts. I wouldn't use Moog or any similar other garbage you find at parts stores.
OEM honda replacements should last at least 50-100K miles or more...even for the stiffer TLS bushing. I've seen good ones on a V6 Accord close to 200K miles.
You can buy replacement bushings from Honda. Or buy the whole arm. Buying the whole arm has advantages including replacement of ALL the bushings in the arm...and they're all pressed in, ready to go. Pressing bushings is expensive unless you're doing it yourself.
Remember, for god's sake, to properly clock the (rubber) bushings after installing the arm...or you'll tear them in a very short span. The suspension should be at ride height before tightening the bolts.
If you go the bushing route, buy Honda genuine parts. I wouldn't use Moog or any similar other garbage you find at parts stores.
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i will have a product review on the PCI bushings soon. i had them installed on tuesday and i love them. not as harsh as i would have imagined and the entire front end feels tight and smooth. mine is a daily driver so i can't comment on longevity but i also believe they should have come with a dust boot
my original compliance bushings were at 113k miles and hadn't torn yet. two of my local acura shops said they are the most "oversold" job and that most of the time you don't need to replace them unless they are torn very badly and it's noticeable. good shop upsell in other words
my original compliance bushings were at 113k miles and hadn't torn yet. two of my local acura shops said they are the most "oversold" job and that most of the time you don't need to replace them unless they are torn very badly and it's noticeable. good shop upsell in other words
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I have an '08 TL-S which has about 45K on it. I started noticing the inner tire wear at 25-30K. I took my car into an alignment shop and they said that they are all within the spec. From my Google research, these are caused by bad LCA Bushing and I do inspect mine and I see the crack on the rubber. Recently, it started making a little grinding noise during stopping, accelerating, or during a shift from 1 - 2. I think maybe it was the bushing rubbing metal to metal?
Has anyone had any success with the FastLine Compliance Bushing from HeelToe?
https://www.heeltoeauto.com/bushing-...aring.pr..html
A few shop around my San Jose,CA just wanted to replace the whole arm as they don't want to use a 3rd party parts. I believe the replacement arm bearing will fail again in 20-30K miles.
Any advice would be appreciated.
Has anyone had any success with the FastLine Compliance Bushing from HeelToe?
https://www.heeltoeauto.com/bushing-...aring.pr..html
A few shop around my San Jose,CA just wanted to replace the whole arm as they don't want to use a 3rd party parts. I believe the replacement arm bearing will fail again in 20-30K miles.
Any advice would be appreciated.
I seriously doubt that worn/torn compliance bushings could be causing inner tire wear.
FYI, you can replace the bushing yourself. There is an epic thread on the compliance bushings. I made a home made tool for about $35 that will press out/in the bushings with the control arm still on the car. I think it's about page 25 or so in that thread.
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i will have a product review on the PCI bushings soon. i had them installed on tuesday and i love them. not as harsh as i would have imagined and the entire front end feels tight and smooth. mine is a daily driver so i can't comment on longevity but i also believe they should have come with a dust boot
my original compliance bushings were at 113k miles and hadn't torn yet. two of my local acura shops said they are the most "oversold" job and that most of the time you don't need to replace them unless they are torn very badly and it's noticeable. good shop upsell in other words
my original compliance bushings were at 113k miles and hadn't torn yet. two of my local acura shops said they are the most "oversold" job and that most of the time you don't need to replace them unless they are torn very badly and it's noticeable. good shop upsell in other words
Do I regret getting the PCI bearings? No way!
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justnspace (01-30-2017)
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For anyone who's looking for them we have them in stock online ready to ship too! You can see them here: SB-TSX-FL - Suspension Components - Excelerate's Honda & Acura Store - Japanese Performance Specialist
However, fwoodman, it seems your google research has done you well! If your alignment is in check, but the bushings are worn, as the car drives down the street the load on the bad bushings causes the tires to toe out; which leads to the wear you are experiencing.
I cant promise that's the fix, but that's where I'd start. Update us when you find out!
However, fwoodman, it seems your google research has done you well! If your alignment is in check, but the bushings are worn, as the car drives down the street the load on the bad bushings causes the tires to toe out; which leads to the wear you are experiencing.
I cant promise that's the fix, but that's where I'd start. Update us when you find out!
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Xlr8 you guys need to update your store for the version that only has the compliance bushing replacements like the other vendors. Most don't replace the other ones that are included, you would get more sales with the cheaper version (only compliance bushings)
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^^^^ hey, where's our PCI review?
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We have just the compliance bushings available too!
If you're looking for them feel free to PM me, I can give you a quote.
We're working on getting the store up to date in the meantime.
If you're looking for them feel free to PM me, I can give you a quote.
We're working on getting the store up to date in the meantime.
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sockr1 (01-31-2017)
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PCI bearings review: https://acurazine.com/forums/3g-tl-t...cement-954321/