I lowered my TL on Tein 1 pc...now my rear wheels are toed in

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Old 11-20-2011, 11:28 AM
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I lowered my TL on Tein 1 pc...now my rear wheels are toed in

i lowered my car and im noticeing my rear wheels has a slight toe ... i know an allighment every one says is needed but... im looking underneith and i dond see and thing to adjust tow in rear.... . need help please


ive seen cars online with wide wheel setup with same issue but i what to know if this can b fixed.....

ima take a pic n post real quick.. this is only 1 i have on my pc
Old 11-20-2011, 11:35 AM
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Old 11-20-2011, 11:41 AM
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looks like negative camber to me and its recommended you get a rear camber kit
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I had the same problem when I slammed mines on HT-Spec type 2's. I'm sure an wheel alignment can fix it. However I'm looking at getting the ingall camber kit (smart arms) since it says that they can adjust both camber and toe. So when I lower it again in the Spring I can have the shop align both side evenly.
Edit: Mines toed inward.

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I had the same problem with mine after lowering with comptech springs. Get a rear camber kit to fix it. Good luck.
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thanxx for input but not looking to fix camber.. just the toe...

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I had the same problem when I slammed mines on HT-Spec type 2's. I'm sure an wheel alignment can fix it. However I'm looking at getting the ingall camber kit (smart arms) since it says that they can adjust both camber and toe. So when I lower it again in the Spring I can have the shop align both side evenly.
Edit: Mines toed inward.
thank u ima look into that

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Originally Posted by joeitovtec69
thank u ima look into that
No problem . HT (Heeltoe) has them for $86 bucks for one kit & you will need two kits. One kit per side.
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I have the same prob. just ordered the ingalls lower arms, I already have the upper camber arms, but mainly when I get the alignment done is whats going to fix the problem... Yours looks mostly like an alignment problem, not so much a negative camber issue.
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Originally Posted by joeitovtec69
thanxx for input but not looking to fix camber.. just the toe...
Toe is adjustable .. get it aligned.
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Originally Posted by SSM4DR
I had the same problem when I slammed mines on HT-Spec type 2's. I'm sure an wheel alignment can fix it. However I'm looking at getting the ingall camber kit (smart arms) since it says that they can adjust both camber and toe. So when I lower it again in the Spring I can have the shop align both side evenly.
Edit: Mines toed inward.
oem toe arms are adjustable
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Old 11-20-2011, 05:17 PM
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Just adjust the toe with an alignment ... and do it quickly.... no need for a camber kit unless it makes you sleep better at night. Toe will destroy tires rapidly... Camber will wear tires very very very slowly. You'll need new tires as a whole before the adverse effects of negative camber set in.
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Joe, I did the same thing to my Type S. I went ahead and got a rear camber kit-just to be safe.

I like the blue lugs in the last pic too.
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Old 11-20-2011, 05:49 PM
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Every time you change your ride height, your toe gets messed up both front & rear. Always get an alignment after you adjust your ride height. You won't even want to know what altering ride height does to your suspension bushing...

There's really a lot more to lowering that most people know.
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what other's have said: get an alignment that will fix the toe adjustment. get the camber kit and you will help correct the negative camber depending how much drop you have (it seems anything greater than a 1.5-2 inch drop will warrant a camber kit).
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Originally Posted by 07tl-s6spd
oem toe arms are adjustable
I know . I just wanted to upgrade the supporting parts to my upgraded suspension. OEM works fine, but they won't be able to take the stress and abuse my coilovers set on stiff put them through overtime.

Back on to topic, good luck OP .

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Old 11-20-2011, 07:13 PM
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thanxxx everyone for the info...
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The best kit on the market is the INGALLS rear camber/toe kit. It includes 2 arms per side: 1 for toe and 1 for camber.



If you need them we have them in stock; you need a qty of 2 to complete the rear of the car:

http://store.excelerateperformance.c...5/i-60220.aspx
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Old 11-21-2011, 01:06 PM
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u will need an alignment. i lowered mines on tein basis. i had the same exact problem. toe and camber was off.
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Added camber is not a problem. If you notice, the A-spec suspension's alignment specs are only different because of the added camber from lowering. Toe specs are still the same. Same goes for the Integra Type-R vs the GSR. No need to blow $160 on control arms.

Just get the toe straightened (with your OEM control arms) and your good to go.

BTW: Rear toe is adjusted with the #18 cam-bolt and #30 nut:

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Is the front TOE adjustable as well?
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Of course. Toe is adjustable on all 4 wheels of all modern cars.

Loosen the #18 jam nut against the #10/12 outer tie-rod. Then turn the #1 inner tie-rod to adjust the toe. When it's set, tighten the #18 jam nut back against the #10/12 outer tie-rod.

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how did you put the new suspension back in? im in the process of installing megan lowering springs and im having trouble reinstalling the springs
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You have to use a spring compressor.
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Originally Posted by 94eg!
You have to use a spring compressor.
I have actually tried two different spring compressors. There isn't room to have them on if the top of the wishbone is still connected, but if you remove the wishbone (the two bolts on either side just below where the top hat screws in), you can't put it back on once the springs are in. I've searched all over and no one really has a method other than luck or forcing it. I have been trying all day and still nothing is working.

Sorry to thread jack I'm just quite desperate considering my car has been on jacks for two days
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Oh, I thought you just meant "installing the spring onto the shock". I've never pulled an entire shock assembly off one of these cars, so I cannot help you....
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