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So my tires have been wearing pretty bad on the inside causing me to go through tires, actually had one pop on me on the highway the first time because I was only checking the tread at the outer edge and didn't realize at the time the inner edge had worn much faster. I got new tires and got an alignment but my rear camber was still way out of spec -2.09, seen below. They said I would need a camber kit to properly adjust it. The car is stock height by the way with 130k miles.
I was going to place an order for this camber kit link But I've been reading from heeltoe that camber shouldn't really affect tire wear but I can't imagine what else could be causing mine to wear so badly. Just wanted some advice before I spend $250 on a camber kit and alignment. Pictures below
Too much negative camber can cause excessive tire wear. Typically if the tires are wearing out extremely fast (within a few thousand miles) it is the toe that needs to be set, but that doesn't mean the camber won't cause issues as well. It looks like your toe is well within spec, so I'm willing to bet it is that camber that's causing the wear.
i'm lowered a decent amount (1.5-2") and my camber isn't at that point. some of your suspension components aren't right with that much camber at stock height
OP, do/did you have a lot of weight in the trunk/back seat when those measurements were taken? Normally, a stock suspension won't see that negative of camber, but it's possible if you are carrying a lot of weight in the rear.
If you're going to get adjustable arms, DON'T GET INGALLS!!!
Get SPC arms. Search this forum, lots of issues with Ingalls....
Maybe it is lowered? This is how I got it though so I just assumed stock, I didn't do anything to it, pics below so you guys can judge. Also the only extra weight is my 12" sub and box along with my 2 amplifiers and maybe a few random trunk junk items that don't really weigh anything.
And wow really? The ingalls are no good? Thought they were the way to go lol, I'll have to read around and see then. So you're saying the ones Excelerate posted are the ones I should get?
sockr1 is absolutely right it's probably your suspension. And it looks to me like your at stock height. Factory suspension is usually worn down quite a bit after 130k miles. Ever considered lowering your TL at all? If I were you I would replace your stock suspension with some Tein coilovers, fine tune your drop and make those Aspec wheels look 100 times better. Probably time to replace your suspension anyway if it has been on the car for 130k miles...
sockr1 is absolutely right it's probably your suspension. And it looks to me like your at stock height. Factory suspension is usually worn down quite a bit after 130k miles. Ever considered lowering your TL at all? If I were you I would replace your stock suspension with some Tein coilovers, fine tune your drop and make those Aspec wheels look 100 times better. Probably time to replace your suspension anyway if it has been on the car for 130k miles...
So is it that getting the camber kit would just be a band-aid fix for another underlying problem? I do plan on getting some Tein coilovers in the future, I'm currently still in college though so that won't be until a few more months after I graduate and start working. I just ordered some DWS06 tires but I don't want them to go to waste in the meantime.
When you say replace my suspension are you talking about just the coilovers or are there other things I would need to do as well?
Such a weird thing. I'm nearly the same camber as you, and dropped pretty far. I have no idea how you can have the negative camber you have and look nearly stock height.
So is it that getting the camber kit would just be a band-aid fix for another underlying problem?
Absolutely. You need your suspension looked at. Most probably dead struts. Some inexpensive coil-overs are a good solution IMO, but it can be done cheaper if you're not looking to lower the car. You can just replace the stock struts.
So is it that getting the camber kit would just be a band-aid fix for another underlying problem? I do plan on getting some Tein coilovers in the future, I'm currently still in college though so that won't be until a few more months after I graduate and start working. I just ordered some DWS06 tires but I don't want them to go to waste in the meantime.
When you say replace my suspension are you talking about just the coilovers or are there other things I would need to do as well?
I would get it looked at by a professional so you don't go throwing money away. I know alignments aren't cheap and they will add up quick if you have to keep on getting it done. Pay the fee to diagnose it and then save yourself the headache and time to fix it.
Absolutely. You need your suspension looked at. Most probably dead struts. Some inexpensive coil-overs are a good solution IMO, but it can be done cheaper if you're not looking to lower the car. You can just replace the stock struts.
I still have 6k miles left on my extended warranty. I'll have to see what I can get worked out. Maybe get them to do the replacement and I just pay the difference for the coilovers vs. what they would install . Any suggestion as to which direction I should go with proving what the car needs from them?
I got a good deal on my Tein's. I'm dropped on Tein street basis which are entry level coilovers and I love them. I think I only paid $550 shipped. Very easy on the wallet compared to some of the other coilovers out there. The real money saver though is going to be installing them yourself. Get some buddies together on a weekend and have fun with it. That's what I did. If not you are looking at like $800 in labor.
I still have 6k miles left on my extended warranty. I'll have to see what I can get worked out. Maybe get them to do the replacement and I just pay the difference for the coilovers vs. what they would install . Any suggestion as to which direction I should go with proving what the car needs from them?
Show them your alignment sheet. Your camber is out of spec
I still have 6k miles left on my extended warranty. I'll have to see what I can get worked out. Maybe get them to do the replacement and I just pay the difference for the coilovers vs. what they would install . Any suggestion as to which direction I should go with proving what the car needs from them?
I got a good deal on my Tein's. I'm dropped on Tein street basis which are entry level coilovers and I love them. I think I only paid $550 shipped. Very easy on the wallet compared to some of the other coilovers out there. The real money saver though is going to be installing them yourself. Get some buddies together on a weekend and have fun with it. That's what I did. If not you are looking at like $800 in labor.
Yeah I saw the basis on heeltoe for only $560, was trying to figure out if the advance would be worth the extra $90. Didn't imagine labor is so high on them, sadly I don't currently know anyone I could do them with, maybe in the future though.
Originally Posted by Trav2390
Show them your alignment sheet. Your camber is out of spec
Ok so I'll use my camber being out of spec after multiple alignments as my main point. The thing I'm hoping is that they don't decide to just slap a camber kit on it as a "fix". I'm going to bring it in to a dealer next week to try my luck. I'll wait to put on my new tires, at least I'll have them on hand if I do get a flat though.
Originally Posted by ScoobyTL
extended warranty? third party or from Acura?
It's a third party, they're pretty good though. I've got about 3k worth of work done from them all at Acura dealerships too
Yeah I saw the basis on heeltoe for only $560, was trying to figure out if the advance would be worth the extra $90. Didn't imagine labor is so high on them, sadly I don't currently know anyone I could do them with, maybe in the future though.
the advance are completely worth the extra 90...they give you complete control of how soft or how stiff you want to run your car. with the basis you get whatever they come set for. everyone's preference is different so i'm sure you have a different preference for stiff/soft than the TEIN engineer, so just pay the extra 90 and have that full control
you can install coilovers completely by yourself, you don't need anyone. i've done two sets on my own. there's a good DIY in the garage
I still have 6k miles left on my extended warranty. I'll have to see what I can get worked out. Maybe get them to do the replacement and I just pay the difference for the coilovers vs. what they would install . Any suggestion as to which direction I should go with proving what the car needs from them?
I would just start with your alignment sheet, which is way out of spec.
the advance are completely worth the extra 90...they give you complete control of how soft or how stiff you want to run your car. with the basis you get whatever they come set for. everyone's preference is different so i'm sure you have a different preference for stiff/soft than the TEIN engineer, so just pay the extra 90 and have that full control
you can install coilovers completely by yourself, you don't need anyone. i've done two sets on my own. there's a good DIY in the garage
Ok that sounds totally worth it, $90 relative to the cost of everything else really isn't that bad. And good to know I could do them myself, I'll find the DIY and bookmark it in case I end up having to do them myself
Originally Posted by VisualEchos
I would just start with your alignment sheet, which is way out of spec.
Yeah I'm going to use that as my main thing. How it works is I go to the dealer, tell them what's up, they determine the issue and the fix, then they contact the warranty company for approval and then they do the work once it's approved.
Originally Posted by nfnsquared
Before you go to your insurance blaming your issue on bad OEM struts, you may want to be sure they are indeed OEM....
Yeah I'll probably double check to try and have an idea. I'm pretty sure though with my warranty company as long as it was a suitable OEM replacement (not coilovers or something that lowered the car), it's fair game. Now that I think about it, if they do decide to replace the struts I'll probably have to do OEM replacements as to not lose the warranty on my suspension related parts. Although with only 6k miles left to go I probably might as well
11-16-2015, 11:42 AM
. Any suggestion as to which direction I should go with proving what the car needs from them?
