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Old 01-31-2010, 10:27 AM
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H&R springs

Question im running 245-40-19 on my ride if i use my stock type s shocks and add H&R lowering springs would i rub? or is it ok and still clear the fender
Old 01-31-2010, 11:53 AM
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This should be in the TL forum

But don't H&R springs provide a pretty modest drop? On the TSX, I don't think you would have any issues with rubbing. I can't comment on the TL, but I'd imagine it's the same.
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ok thanks for the info.....
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Old 02-01-2010, 12:32 PM
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It's because you're asking this in the 4th Gen. section. It should've tipped you off when you clicked on the 4th Gen. section. Not everybody in the 4th Gen. section has owned a 3rd Gen. like you have. You might not want to ask this in the 4th Gen. section and click on the 3rd Gen. instead.
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ohh im on 4g? WTH opps MOD please change to 3G TL car talk
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Well, even though your are in the wrong forum


245/40/19 tires, are way too big for the 3G..... your speedometer must be off by about 5-6%

Second... what are the specs on your wheels? Width and Offset?


Chances are, no matter what, they are going to rub. unless you have a higher offset wheel then OEM
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19" x 8" offset 45
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I cant give you a clear answer. you shouldnt rub, because the width is OEM spec. and the tire width is 245... so technically you shouldn't rub ...

BUT... those tires are too tall... the profile should be 35.... not 40... so.... the only way to find out, is if you drop it... lol.. worse case scenario, you'll need smaller tires
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I have H&R race springs with 235/35/19 on all 4 corners with rolled fenders and I still rub a bit. But im running 10s in the rear with a +40 and 0 camber.

1st things first. H&R makes two different lowering springs for the 3g TL. The Sport Springs only drop your car around an inch or so, the Race Springs will drop you down at least 2 inches. I measured my fender before and after I installed my springs and my Race Springs dropped my car just a hair over 2.25 inches all the way around. I also blew my OEM shocks after only about 500 miles. So now I run Koni SP3 shocks that give you height adjustment.

So I would suggest that you either run full coilovers, or springs and Koni struts so you can adjust your ride height right where you need it so you don't scrape and rub
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Originally Posted by Black/White
I have H&R race springs with 235/35/19 on all 4 corners with rolled fenders and I still rub a bit. But im running 10s in the rear with a +40 and 0 camber.

1st things first. H&R makes two different lowering springs for the 3g TL. The Sport Springs only drop your car around an inch or so, the Race Springs will drop you down at least 2 inches. I measured my fender before and after I installed my springs and my Race Springs dropped my car just a hair over 2.25 inches all the way around. I also blew my OEM shocks after only about 500 miles. So now I run Koni SP3 shocks that give you height adjustment.

So I would suggest that you either run full coilovers, or springs and Koni struts so you can adjust your ride height right where you need it so you don't scrape and rub

thanks so i should get sport springs huh? all i need is to lower 1 inch or so i dont want it to tucked in specially driving to nyc everyday sucks ass with many pot holes if i wanted to go very low i would go straight up Tein SS coilovers thanks bro
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Originally Posted by Black/White;1st things first. H&R makes two different lowering springs for the 3g TL. The Sport Springs only drop your car around an inch or so, the Race Springs will drop you down at least 2 inches. I measured my fender before and after I installed my springs and my Race Springs dropped my car just a hair over 2.25 inches all the way around. [B
I also blew my OEM shocks after only about 500 miles.[/B] So now I run Koni SP3 shocks that give you height adjustment.
So did you blow your shocks as a direct result from the springs? I'm wanting to lower the car with springs cause it seems to be a cheaper option, but if I have to buy struts with them I might just opt for the coilovers.
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Originally Posted by Bladehopper82
So did you blow your shocks as a direct result from the springs? I'm wanting to lower the car with springs cause it seems to be a cheaper option, but if I have to buy struts with them I might just opt for the coilovers.

Yes.

A number of people (me included) have run Sport Springs (less than 1.5" drop) on stock shocks with no immediate issues.

I've run H&R Sports and stock TL-S shocks for 26 months and almost 30,000 miles so far; no issues. So far.
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I am running H & R Sports with Tokico Blue shocks. I figured, why do the work twice, if it can be done at once. I bought both together and had installed together. Didn't want to run the risk of blowing a shock. Do it right, and hopefully nothing will go wrong.
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Originally Posted by Bladehopper82
So did you blow your shocks as a direct result from the springs? I'm wanting to lower the car with springs cause it seems to be a cheaper option, but if I have to buy struts with them I might just opt for the coilovers.
The race springs probably contributed to the shocks being blown or premature wear just because they drop it more than 2". You should be able like Bearcat said to run a set of sport springs(1.5" drop) on the stock shocks with no problems, depending on the amount of miles on them now.
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Originally Posted by Slpr04UA6
The race springs probably contributed to the shocks being blown or premature wear just because they drop it more than 2". You should be able like Bearcat said to run a set of sport springs(1.5" drop) on the stock shocks with no problems, depending on the amount of miles on them now.
This exactly. I'm running Race springs on my car. I was on a budget when I bought mine so I went with Tokico HP's because I've had good experiences in the past with them. After a year, they're still good and function fine. But I'll probably upgrade them to the Neuspeed/Koni Yellows soon so I can go a tad lower and have the dampening adjustment.

If I would have put the Race springs on my stock shocks they would have blown in no time.
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why are your tires so big? should be a 30 or 35 series tire. I'm 245/35/19 19x8.5 +35 and I rub, but I'm slightly tucked in the front. Going to raise it up a tad.
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drop it low drop it low!!!
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