Getting some BC coilovers, who else is riding on them?
#41
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heard that - doing it all over again I would definitely raise the coils to a good height before installing, but, yeah, you got to crawl before you can run...i think i can hear a GI-Joe in the background about knowing things is half the battle...lolz
#43
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going by this crude conversion chart;
16 = 896
15 = 840
14 = 784
13 = 728
12 = 672
11 = 616
10 = 560
9.0 = 504
8.5 = 476
8.0 = 448
7.5 = 420
7.0 = 392
6.5 = 364
6.0 = 336
5.5 = 308
5.0 = 280
4.5 = 252
4.0 = 224
3.0 = 168
2.0 = 112
12kg front = 672lbs/inch
6kg rear = 336lbs/inch
I tried to balance my rates without going toooooooo race car.
but, as I know, you have the real race car, so if you dont care about this info, please disregard
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VisualEchos (06-10-2015)
#44
I don't have any race car roots, I don't race the Exige. Racing is a rich guy's sport, and I'm not that guy. My lotus is my photography muse. The Lotus Sport Suspension sits as it came, albeit lower (another story).
The TL is my daily driver, I'm just trying to make it *look* nicer, I don't need any additional performance at all. Quiet, soft, smooth, that's what I'm looking for, and I should be able to get that, even with a 1" drop in the rear, and 1.5" drop in the front, I'm just trying to figure out the correct settings.
The TL is my daily driver, I'm just trying to make it *look* nicer, I don't need any additional performance at all. Quiet, soft, smooth, that's what I'm looking for, and I should be able to get that, even with a 1" drop in the rear, and 1.5" drop in the front, I'm just trying to figure out the correct settings.
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VisualEchos (07-03-2015)
#56
Finally got the coil-overs installed, and I still can't get the ride-height matched on all 4 corners. Such a weird thing, I do the math, adjust the coil-over, and it's high or low every time. I guess I'll keep plugging at it. Maybe it's because I'm so particular
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#57
So it turns out that the dust shield for the rear rotor is quite sharp if you hit it just right. Sent my friend Matt to the ER for some stitches. It was a stupid mistake, and one I'm sure he won't be making again anytime soon. Could have been me, I've certainly done worse.
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She's finally dropped...
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On all the way soft they still ride stiffer than my stock suspension, but I guess that's to be expected.
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She's finally dropped...
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On all the way soft they still ride stiffer than my stock suspension, but I guess that's to be expected.
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Boosejars (07-03-2015)
#58
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Looks good/painful. That dust shield is indeed a PITA, found that out myself when changing my rear toe arms.
As far as stiffer ride goes, that's definitely expected, especially with BCs even completely dampened. BC is kind of notorious for being super stiff AFAIK. If you wanted soft, Tein SAs might have been a better choice - On full soft mine feel like you're floating even while completely maxed out.
As far as stiffer ride goes, that's definitely expected, especially with BCs even completely dampened. BC is kind of notorious for being super stiff AFAIK. If you wanted soft, Tein SAs might have been a better choice - On full soft mine feel like you're floating even while completely maxed out.
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VisualEchos (07-04-2015)
#59
I was going to ask someone about this. At full soft mine feel pretty good, not as good as stock, but good (not a negative towards BC, just personal preference). However, I have heard this "float" word several times. When do you experience this feeling? At low or high speeds? Around corners? Does it feel dangerous? I'm liking this full soft, so I want to put my back seat back in, but I'm not going to until I know that the dampening is set correctly.
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Boosejars (07-05-2015)
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stunning shots man! I like more response when i'm driving - i started at 15 clicks from soft, and now am at 20 - right where I like it - don't like the soft setting lol...but seeing as how I am riding now on 12f/10r - i will definitely be getting a higher spring rate down the road...but hands down BC was the best choice you could have made! p.s. what camera are you using?
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VisualEchos (07-06-2015)
#63
Burning Brakes
Car looks great! I think some of the harness could be coming from the fact that the BC coilovers are mono-tube (BC, Tein Flex) vs twin tube Tein's (SA and SS). and that you don't have the stock top hats anymore. Tein run 12k/6k as well but they use stock tops unlike the BC coilovers and Tein Flex so the ride is better with the stock top hats. Big advantage of the BC and Tein Flex is that they offer spring preload and height adjustment separately. Having the independent height adjustment is very nice for dialing in ride height (duh, lol) and corner balancing the car.
I have Aspec on my TL and Skunk2 Pro-C's on my Integra, the Pro-C's are fantastic for handling purposes but the ride is very harsh, 8kF and 6kR but on a much lighter car. Taking a few PSI out of the Integra's tires helps improve ride quality for long trips.
Lol at how you take pictures vs track guys... it's so true.
I have Aspec on my TL and Skunk2 Pro-C's on my Integra, the Pro-C's are fantastic for handling purposes but the ride is very harsh, 8kF and 6kR but on a much lighter car. Taking a few PSI out of the Integra's tires helps improve ride quality for long trips.
Lol at how you take pictures vs track guys... it's so true.
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VisualEchos (07-06-2015)
#64
stunning shots man! I like more response when i'm driving - i started at 15 clicks from soft, and now am at 20 - right where I like it - don't like the soft setting lol...but seeing as how I am riding now on 12f/10r - i will definitely be getting a higher spring rate down the road...but hands down BC was the best choice you could have made! p.s. what camera are you using?
Camera kit is a Nikon D800 + 200/2
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6spd-GERCO (07-06-2015)
#69
You live, you learn.
#71
Ah, I don't remember you saying that the BC Racing coilovers were for race cars, not daily driven cars, I must have missed it. At any rate, it's going to take some work to get them where I want them, but it'll be worth it, the car only has 83K on the clock, so many years/miles to go.
#72
Intermediate
Taken from BC's website:
"Our BR Type model is the perfect choice for street driving and the occasional road course or autocross duty."
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VisualEchos (07-06-2015)
#73
Intermediate
I also want to add that BCs ride stiffer than most coilers such as Teins, for instance but the BR are not for race.
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VisualEchos (07-06-2015)
#74
Thanks Sid. I guess this is a fun process for most, but I didn't really like the install that much, and I'm dreading taking everything apart again to do the mounts and springs...especially setting the ride height (an exhaustive process IMO). Maybe I'll pay a shop to do it this time around, I got a great deal on the coilovers, so I guess it evens out.
#75
Intermediate
The install process, for me was toughest when I did the backs. I finished the fronts in under half hour using impact gun. The rears took most time when taking out OEM strut out. I learned that if I take out the 4 12mm bolts for the Rear sway bar out, sliding out OEM strut becomes much easier.
As for adjusting the height, instead of rotating the assembly using the wrenches I would loosen up the bottom (3rd) locking ring to match how low I want to go and then rotate the bottom sleeve. I also use wd-40/spray polish/sewing machine oil in threads to make it easier to rotate the strut sleeve.
As for adjusting the height, instead of rotating the assembly using the wrenches I would loosen up the bottom (3rd) locking ring to match how low I want to go and then rotate the bottom sleeve. I also use wd-40/spray polish/sewing machine oil in threads to make it easier to rotate the strut sleeve.
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SidhuSaaB (07-08-2015)
#77
Burning Brakes
Most of the coilovers you see are purely for aesthetics. A serious race set-up will cost well over $2k. I haven't seen anybody with suspension corner balance their TL, but this is the real advantage of being able to adjust height independent from the spring. Corner balancing will make the car turn/react the same way when turning right or left.
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#78
Most of the coilovers you see are purely for aesthetics. A serious race set-up will cost well over $2k. I haven't seen anybody with suspension corner balance their TL, but this is the real advantage of being able to adjust height independent from the spring. Corner balancing will make the car turn/react the same way when turning right or left.
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I've seen it, but thank you
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#79
So I've got some camber issues, but my local tech doesn't think they'll cause an issue.
LF = -.70°
RF = -.75°
LR = -1.65°
RR = -2.20°
I'm guessing this is normal.
The real issue was the toe after the install, which was pretty far out. Glad I got it aligned asap!
LF = -.70°
RF = -.75°
LR = -1.65°
RR = -2.20°
I'm guessing this is normal.
The real issue was the toe after the install, which was pretty far out. Glad I got it aligned asap!
#80
On a side note, I've found that the camber difference is definitely part of what makes the front tire look thicker than the rear, even though it's not. Basically the shadow is very short on the front, and longer in the rear. I'm wondering now if I should get a camber kit for the front to help with this.