sid719

so... i know nothing about cars, fyi. i didn't see it in the article or maybe i missed it. i don't have any mods on my car except 19" wheels. i took my car in for an alignment because my wheels are wearing more on the insides. i was told the only way to fix the problem was to get new (adjustable) cambers, in addition to the alignment. they said there wasn't anything wrong with the factory ones and that it was just the way honda's are made. any feedback would greatly help. thx!

Smitty27

Good info

Estureto

I just bought a new pair of toyo eclipse tires and got an alignment, but the tire shop made it a point to try to sell me another aftermarket part called "EZ Bar" to adjust the rear alignment. I am not too familar with what was all said. My question is here, is it neccesary for me to buy this part (EZBAR)? Because I just got the 4 wheel alignment.

Estureto

Acura TSX nothing lowered either. Stock wheels no major accidents either.

illOpTiCs

I have -2.1 "rear left camber" and -1.7 "rear right camber". I only have about 250 miles on it so far, so I'll keep you posted. 2" drop - Tein basics.

crazy haitian

Great tips

rromero

Great info.

thedarknight

I have A 2007 Acura TL type S and i want to Drop it maybe 2in. im also putting 18in rims on it. but i also want the steering to be stiffer.. any ideas?

AMUA6

iTrader: (7)

The same questions keep being asked over and over.

I almost decided to ask a question about a camber kit.. but after reading through the posts in this thread my question was answered. Might I suggest others do the same?

Jskman987

The camber kit is a must.... I have the Ingalis kit & it is a good quality part at a great price.

ironlung1948

Guys I know this question is redundant but Im confused. So i have a stock TL not lowered. i took my car in for tire rotation and my rear tires had heavy inside wear while the rest of the tire was 80% He said I needed an alignment but that my cambers are non adjustable. so my question is : can i still get an alignment w/o adjusting my camber/getting a kit? I drive 3000miles a month incase this is important. what do i do? just purchased new potenzas adn not trying to drive through these in a couple months! Yelp

Duronn

iTrader: (1)

Read the article!
I lowered my car 4 months ago, no alignment problems or tire issues. I lowered it 2inches all around. I have a friend who works at an acura dealership & he told me I wouldn't need a camber kit if its aligned properly. Now if you go 19's, then maybe. I just wasted $200 bucks on a camber kit when I didn't need it. DAMN!

Duronn

iTrader: (1)

Have someone who knows what they're doing to align your car. All those shops follow factory specs, which isn't bad. But u gotta offset for you inner tire wear. You need more positive camber. You just gotta have someone work on your car who knows WTH they're doing.

smilingbig

i had bought an '08 TL S 3 mo. ago. it has an a-spec suspension. i want to put 18"-19" rims with bigger tires to fill the wheel well a little more. I was told that b/c i was going with a larger diameter wheel, i will have to get a camber kit. is this true, and how bad will this affect my odometer readings?

ahs4n

Good info. & a great read

CaliWowie

aaaa ouch...i know my answer is in this post but my small brain over heated

thank you though! best head ache ever

BoyznToyz

My stock '04 keeps wearing out rears, especially on the right. Unfortunately, I bought the Moog K90210 as Amazon said it would fit. Not! I should have found this site.
Anyways, I read about a recall or TSB on this issue. Can I get the dealer to install the bump stops or adjustable camber arm? Just replaced all four struts with OEM. Thanks!

upnout

iTrader: (6)

my #'s are about the same, rear pass -2.4 and driver -2.7. I just ordered the rear kit (ingalls 38725) The front, pass -1.4 and driver -1.7 still trying to work out which one I need, ingalls 35590 or 35591.
dropped on Tein SS

bLaCk iCe

ok guy i just order HT-spec coilover type-1...and i got 08 TL-S and i am thinking about going to 2 inch all around....do i need a camber kit...????
i am going to lower on some 18...

tomh2k

Great info

007 TL Chino

thank that made my mind to get a camber kit

acuratlsauga

hello,
I have an acura tl 2007 ,car pulls to the right i have got aligntment done ,brand new tires , car still pulls to the right nobody is able to give me a proper answer why its happening i was told rear suspension is all siezed up but with a camber kit theirs a possibility to fix it is that true ? please help .. thanks

bodacious253

hey would i need to get a camber kit on my 2g tl. i have a set of ff coilovers and im trying to run an extremely aggressive set up. i have 19x8.5+2035 215/35/19 fronts 19x9.5+20 225/35/19 rears

TECHBOMB

Anybody know a kit for the front and rear camber for a 04 tl thats good but wont break the bank ????

Bearcat94

Ingalls. Check with HeelToe or Excellerate

xX(Tee-L)Xx

Thanks for this thread, i was planning to get a camber kit cause i was getting camber wear on my front tires, but i havent gotten it aligned yet. People i know told me to get all the toe realign to 0. I have a 2" drop in the front and 1.75" in the back. Would that alignment be right?

hdtl

that was a good info MrHeeltoe.

AccoFin

Does someone know is there camber kit available for Honda Accord tourer / Acura TSX wagon model -> 2009 ?

I found following camber kits but it seems that these does not fit into tourer/wagon (??)

Eibach:
EIB-5.67540K
SPC:
spc 60150

Stoianoff31

awesome article. im going with the eibach pro kit which is a maximum settled drop of 1.4''. i will be getting an alignment done at the acura dealer and opting out of the camber kit. good tips!

JDiMage

Why do ppl keep asking if you need a camber kit? The whole point of this thread is to inform you on the facts of camber and alignment, not tell you if u need a camber kit or not. You've got to make that decision for yourself! That being said I have a 2" drop aligned with no camber kit running 2.2degrees in rear and 1.6 in front. so far very little camber wear. I can tell the inside will wear slightly quicker but not so much it should make me replace the tires before the rest of the tread goes out. I'm not getting a camber kit until after I see how the tires wear. Also you have to think that tires camber so they can clear the fender so on extreme fitment camber may be the only thing keeping your tires from rubbing. And on hard cornering your wheels can actually get positive camber, so a little camber will help cornering, so even with a camber kit I wouldn't put it all the way to stock. This is my 4th lowered honda and only one had a camber kit, and the only one that hella wore the tires never got aligned.

SSM4DR

iTrader: (1)

There are only two reasons why I will be picking up the Ingall's camber kits for the rear(s). A.) I'm sure these control arms are made from better quality vs stock . And B.) I want my camber and toe to be at the same degree at both sides. No 2.1 degree negative camber on one side and 2.0 negative camber on the other side. Even though that's only 0.1 degrees off, I want them to match on both sides .

ohsixMTee

iTrader: (2)

Great information, thanks for the read!

MrHeeltoe

iTrader: (1)

Great reasoning on B, but A is not really true in this case

emilio320

Yea i agree with MrHeelToe on this one. not so Sure that par (A) is accurate. Although, Given that my car is Type-S is this even further from the truth?..I am not so sure on the specific differences in regards to control arms between regular tl and tls, but anyways.. as far as (B) goes , that is precisely why i am getting the rear ingalls kit, I am anal about numbers matching EXACTLY on both sides.

MrHeeltoe

iTrader: (1)

The Type-S and Base suspension components are identical, save the shock/spring assemblies and the sway bars.

lownslow07

iTrader: (1)

Great information!

Camber kit is the way to go in my opinion if you are going to lower your vehicle. Leaves you in control!

T2005L

So I'm going to be the 1001th person on this thread that asks for help. I'm sitting in the Firestone waiting area now(lifetime alignment FTW) for my stock 05 TL (type-S rims). The reason I brought it in is my car is pulling HARD to the left on the highway and the only thing off on the alignment is the camber and obviously it cannot be adjusted. Is a camber kit the way to go or an adjustable ball joint? I am a newb when it comes to suspension, and cars in general for that matter. I don't want to lower or anything I just want my car to stop pulling left. He said my tires are still wearing really well but if I don't fix the problem they will start to wear unevenly. Please help!!

rchayes21

I'm considering dropping my TL about an inch and a half, so thanks: this is great info

McMuffin999

I just lowered my type-s with the TIEN super streets, and before I got it aligned (we eyeballed it as well as we could) my gas milage dropped down below 17mpgs and was riding rough as hell. When I called the only shop in town that even touches lowered cars they told me they wouldn't even touch it if I didn't have the camber kits. Luckily my buddy that helped me install everything HIGHLY suggested getting them from the beginning. After getting her all straightened up she cruising back at her normal 20ish range... as long as I'm not chasing a couple hot chicks in a Ferrari. So needless to say if you don't want your car to burn through tires and ride "rougher" then it already will, I'd say go for the gold... And really their not too bad to install, if you have an acetylene torch for the fronts! Good luck and enjoy!

MrHeeltoe

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Under more performance driving, additional negative camber gives you more contact patch in the turns, meaning for more control a camber kit is good if you are going to use it to align the car with ideal camber...not necessarily "corrected" camber. I don't have a camber kit and my car is quite low, and I have lots of control.

The camber will not cause a pull, or is very unlikely to. Off tire pressures, off caster, and off toe will. Also, bad tires will. 9/10 of the time it is the toe but if they are insisting it is not try swapping the tires right to left (if they are non directional) and see if the pull changes or goes away. Also try swapping front to back.

The camber is not likely the problem.

The mileage drop was most likely to the additional drag on the tires caused by the toe being off, not the camber.

Riding rough makes no sense at all...although getting the toe adjusted will definitely cure issues with dartiness or odd on-center feel, which could give the perception of a "bad ride." The ride has nothing to do with the alignment though.

The camber kit was not necessary in your case to improve mileage, the ride, or the tire wear. It was only necessary to get your local shop to touch it.