Detailed Coilover Suspension Install on 07 TL-S 6MT
#81
Looks great, man.
For future reference in ride height change:
Front ride height at the wheel changes at ~1.57x the spring position change.
Rear ride height at the wheel changes at ~1.18x the spring position change.
**assuming the same spring rate and no bumpstop interference.
For future reference in ride height change:
Front ride height at the wheel changes at ~1.57x the spring position change.
Rear ride height at the wheel changes at ~1.18x the spring position change.
**assuming the same spring rate and no bumpstop interference.
#82
I'm attempting to do this, this weekend but I've got a question about building the top hats. I bought all new honda parts to make the strut tops bc I want to build them outside of the car then just drop the stock out and slide these in. The question I have is, in the picture showing the strut assembled it looks like there is a washer missing on top of the bushing where the nut goes. In the diagram that says use all of these parts, it shows 3 washers, just a little confused on where exactly they go. I have 2 silver washers, 1 slightly smaller than the other, and a black thick washer, from what the diagram shows it the thicker silver washer down first, then the thick black washer, then at the top the silver smaller washer..
#83
I'm attempting to do this, this weekend but I've got a question about building the top hats. I bought all new honda parts to make the strut tops bc I want to build them outside of the car then just drop the stock out and slide these in. The question I have is, in the picture showing the strut assembled it looks like there is a washer missing on top of the bushing where the nut goes. In the diagram that says use all of these parts, it shows 3 washers, just a little confused on where exactly they go. I have 2 silver washers, 1 slightly smaller than the other, and a black thick washer, from what the diagram shows it the thicker silver washer down first, then the thick black washer, then at the top the silver smaller washer..
I'm doing this on a Type S in the post.
On a base model, yes, there is one extra silver washer above the upper most tophat bushing.
Base model (counting from the bottom, up) =
Thick silver washer
Black washer
tophat and bushings
silver washer
nut
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mongold88 (05-22-2019)
#86
#87
Ah ok.
I mean...0.1" is super negligible and could be a result of measuring error. If you're talking 0.1"...I think you're measuring too closely. Any new rubber pads in the tophats will compress slightly. 0.1" at the front tire is only like a 0.06" change at the spring. So...ignore 1/10 inch settling. Thats microscopic.
If we are talking some significant amount of settling...its a myth...or results from improper install.
Tein springs are pre-sagged. I have not experienced any such settling of the suspension.
Typically, settling within a week is a result of improper install. If you don't re-clock the bushings to their new position, it will take them time (a week or so) to permanently deform. This is the "settling" that happens in most cases.
If properly installed...there should be virtually no short timespan settling at all.
Tip:
Remember to drive the car a short distance after putting it back down on the ground before making measurements. This will "shake out" any bind in the suspension and prevent false "settling" readings.
And always measure on as flat/even of a surface as you can get. Driveways and parking lots are not flat/even. Garage slabs sometimes are. Alignment racks always should be.
Last edited by BROlando; 10-02-2019 at 10:29 AM.
#88
Sorry, to more concisely answer....
the suspension should not significantly settle IF properly installed.
The only settling should be very minor, and will be a result of any new rubber tophat pads deforming (normal, unpreventable).
If significant settling occurs (0.25 or more at the tires), you probably did something wrong.
the suspension should not significantly settle IF properly installed.
The only settling should be very minor, and will be a result of any new rubber tophat pads deforming (normal, unpreventable).
If significant settling occurs (0.25 or more at the tires), you probably did something wrong.
#89
Sorry, to more concisely answer....
the suspension should not significantly settle IF properly installed.
The only settling should be very minor, and will be a result of any new rubber tophat pads deforming (normal, unpreventable).
If significant settling occurs (0.25 or more at the tires), you probably did something wrong.
the suspension should not significantly settle IF properly installed.
The only settling should be very minor, and will be a result of any new rubber tophat pads deforming (normal, unpreventable).
If significant settling occurs (0.25 or more at the tires), you probably did something wrong.
#90
I can attest to a little sagging with my Street Advance Zs in the rear. I did clock all bushings at the appropriate height, but I did install new reinforced Type-S top hats. After about a week, I noticed a little drop.
#91
You fill the gas tank by chance? Anything like that?
#93
^Interesting! I guess we've had different experiences then.
I'm not saying you're wrong in what you've observed, BTW. I'm only sharing my experience...
None of the Teins I've used (SA, Flex Z, CST, SA-Z) have sagged more than 1/8ish inch.
My springs from my 78K mile old SA's measured out within 1mm of their nominal length! Pretty dang good.
The rear shock houses its own bushing (1G TSX, 3G TL). That bushing starts out as brand new when installed. But over a long period of time, that brand new bushing will start to sag and cause height loss...which is normal for rubber bushings. But it takes a loooong time for significant sagging. Probably well over 10-20K miles.
I'm not saying you're wrong in what you've observed, BTW. I'm only sharing my experience...
None of the Teins I've used (SA, Flex Z, CST, SA-Z) have sagged more than 1/8ish inch.
My springs from my 78K mile old SA's measured out within 1mm of their nominal length! Pretty dang good.
The rear shock houses its own bushing (1G TSX, 3G TL). That bushing starts out as brand new when installed. But over a long period of time, that brand new bushing will start to sag and cause height loss...which is normal for rubber bushings. But it takes a loooong time for significant sagging. Probably well over 10-20K miles.
Last edited by BROlando; 10-02-2019 at 10:46 PM.
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