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Old 04-10-2016, 02:25 AM
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Coils or no?

With my vehicle approaching the 258,000 KM mark, i've so far invested in an A-spec front lip and rear lip, new tint and thats all about the mods i've done to it. I've recently thought about buying tein street basis coilovers due to the fact that i just love how the TL sits when lowered and it just bugs me how high the stock suspension is sitting right now. They're about 740$ for me right now in Canada, and i got quoted 180$ to install, bringing a total of 920$. So i've been thinking, would it be worth it to buy coilovers for my car at my mileage?, on a side note, im planning to keep this car for at least two more years. Should i spend this 920$ or just leave it for now? I've pretty much done all the possible preventative maintenance for this car since i've purchased it, like many oil changes, tranny fluid changes, pressure switches, 3x3, brake fluid, coolant flush.
I'll also be needing to purchase new winter tires next winter so thats going to be money outta my pocket too. Should i wait or buy? Just looking to deck out my ride since its April and summer is just around the corner.
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up to you man, you can always hold onto your stock suspension and when the time come you can part out and sell the coils and then replace with your stock suspension, obviously not making back the original amount spent, but better than nothing most of the time car-resellers (mostly dealers) will revert the car back to stock anyway, and sometimes not offer you as much money for a trade in...etc..

But I would say do it, and sell the coils when the time comes
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I am interested in how these coil overs hold up. Did you end up replacing the struts? And if so were there any other parts that were needed to be replaced to keep it aligned. I am at the point where I probably need to replace my suspension, but when I do I plan on redoing all the control arms bushings and sway bar links.
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^most coilovers are a complete package. shock(strut) and coils. The good companies offer re-buildable shock valving, so you can just rebuild the shocks if they ever do go out
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If I did go with a coil over setup where is a good starting point to find higher performance bushings for the control arms? I noticed that the bushings for the front control arms seem to be almost detached.
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if it were me, i'd replace bushings with stock bushings.

mrheeltoeauto sells like titanium or some kind of metal bushings, but i would think that would make your ride super uncomfortable...
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now the real question would it be worth getting k sport coil overs or koni yellow struts with ( if possible ) 1" lowering springs?
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Originally Posted by ahbennett
now the real question would it be worth getting k sport coil overs or koni yellow struts with ( if possible ) 1" lowering springs?
that depends on you!
what kind of driving you do, and what your plans for the car.....

if the ultimate goal is to slam the shit out of it. and put some fat ass wheels on it and add excessive camber to the car, then coils will let you have that option of slamming the shit out of it.

I on the other hand knew the direction I wanted to take my car.
I knew that I'm a sporty kinda guy and I would have NO INTEREST in EXCESSIVE anything, including; drop, wheels, and camber.

I wanted stock like ride with better handling and so i went with Koni yellows!
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Thanks for the response im not the type of person that wants to lower it all the way to the ground, just a little more responsive while taking a corner. The reason I was looking at the coil overs is because everything that is needed comes with them. But like you said I like the stock ride as well. Did you use your stock springs and top hardware?
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Originally Posted by ahbennett
Thanks for the response im not the type of person that wants to lower it all the way to the ground, just a little more responsive while taking a corner. The reason I was looking at the coil overs is because everything that is needed comes with them. But like you said I like the stock ride as well. Did you use your stock springs and top hardware?
I had gotten my set of konis on the cheap.
so, I had no problem buying the type-s bushings in the top hat.
aslo, buddy gave me aspec springs.
I paired the aspec springs with koni yellows with type-s bushings.
yes, removed top hats from aspec springs and moved them over to koni.

ran this set up for 3 or 4 years until recently.
I came across some aftermarket wheels that a buddy was selling for on the cheap.
once I put the aftermarket wheels on, it showed errors in my suspension. the wheels were bigger than stock and one of my konis had failed. it was rubbing in one corner.

since i did not buy konis from an authorised dealer, i did not have receipt showing my purchase thus i couldnt get the one shock rebuilt.

instead of buying one shock, I bought a set of coilovers.

with rebuildable shocks in case i need to.

at first, i dropped the motherfucker because, well i can! but recently, as in every weekend, i have been raising the car up.
because it sucks driving low, its very stressful.
I should be back near aspec height soon

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Thanks for the useful information I think I will be buying the koni yellows to use on my car.Are the Aspec springs stiffer or lower?
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both!
it was track tested and developed.
was a bit lower than stock and spring rates were a bit higher than stock

although, you would have to have two TLs side by side to see the difference in height( it wasnt that much lower)
I was still 4x4 compared to my friends
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FYI: Neuspeed is selling their sport & race springs for $125 shipped. I have a set of sports arriving today.

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Originally Posted by justnspace

instead of buying one shock, I bought a set of coilovers.

with rebuildable shocks in case i need to.

at first, i dropped the motherfucker because, well i can! but recently, as in every weekend, i have been raising the car up.
because it sucks driving low, its very stressful.
I should be back near aspec height soon
What coilover did you go with? Sounds like we're going for the same result... close to stock, fun to drive.


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I went with BC Racing Coilovers.
with custom spring rates.
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how she looks today

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BC coil vs Koni yellow shock and aspec springs

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I still would like to raise the front up just a bit!
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Very nice! I've always been partial to the silver. Pearl white being my second pick (and what I ended up with, a fair trade to get a 6-speed manual with NAV IMO).

I have a lot of work ahead of me to get her tight and right though.
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We offer BC Coilovers and Koni shocks.

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For daily driving the Koni's are more comfortable by design, but if you're looking to do some aggressive driving, autox or track driving, the BC's are a good choice. The adjustable damping makes them versatile.
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Excelerate to the Rescue! as always!
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Old 06-09-2016, 11:59 AM
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Oh, BTW justnspace... in the picture is that adjusted all the way up?
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^no. I suppose if you adjust it all the way up, the BC shock will be the same length as the Aspc/koni yellow.

I still have lots of room to raise my car. and as soon as it stops raining here in Houston, I can start to wrench on it. Cuz I do want to raise it just a hair in the front
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Go air suspension. Best mod I ever did.
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^damn, most of us cant even afford a proper coil over set up.
now you're asking us to spend a couple grand more for air!? lol
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justnspace - when you did the type s bushings in the top hats did you need the collar (sleeve) like you do when you run base bushings?
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^i believe the type-s bushing has the collar built in. its really been so long, like 5 years now...
lemme check my thread of when i did install the type-s top hats... hang on
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check out the troubles i had

https://acurazine.com/forums/3g-tl-t...shings-837206/
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The Type-S bushings have the washers built into them. The hole has to be drilled larger to use with the Koni shocks. Also use the Koni supplied sleeves between them.
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^you helped me out 5 years ago!!! thanks
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I ended up going with the TEIN Street Flex's. Hoping to go with an EDFC setup eventually (too many conflicting priorities in the budget)... four corner air bags on the truck (the ride is really harsh on a one ton), tires for both vehicles, things for the house... the list goes on.
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^1st world problems.
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Originally Posted by 94eg!
^1st world problems.
Absolutely!
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