Toddy

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My all time favorite wheel is the BMW M116 of of the 2008+ M5. I want to know if I can make these work on my car.

Specs of the wheel are

Front 19x8.5 12mm offset
Rear 19x9.5 28mm offset

Our factory offset is 35mm so I would need a 23mm thick spacer for the front and a 7mm spacer for the rear at a minimum correct? I want to be almost flush but still tucking the tire.

I can get the adapters I just need to know if this will work or not. Or if anyone knows of a Aftermarket wheel that looks like these let me know. Thanks

terry919

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They will never fit, the offset is too low. Front 12mm offset is already poked, the wheel will come too far out by adding another 23mm spacer. Rear 28mm is pretty flush.

If you want to user adapter to covert 5x114 to 5x112, you need to find higher offset wheel and I think the minimum thickness for adapter is 25mm. So you need to find: Front - 8.5 +50~+57 offset and rear - 9.5 +50~+55 offset in order to flush with your fender. I doubt any BMW owner run such high offset. You might have better chance find something for Audi and convert it.

myron

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oh no no man you are doing your math all wrong.

those wheels would no fit at all witout some insane modifications to the fenders. out stock offset is +45mm and like I said your math is wrong.

if you were to add a 23mm spacer to the front (+12mm) the offset of those wheels would be -11mm not +35. By adding a spacer you are subtracting the offset making it smaller not larger. And I doubt you can get a wheel adapter that is less then a 1/2" thich. Maybe 10mm but nothing less then that

myron

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this is a much better option and I would love to see this. RS4 wheels are one of my favorite wheels ever, always wanted to see what those would look like on a TL. And the offsets are moderate too 40mm to 55mm I believe so with an adapter you can make them work

terry919

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True!!! RS4 is one of my all time favorite.

Toddy

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Well that sucks. I love those BMW wheels. Thanks for clearing up my math. Too bad I can't make em work... The RS4 wheels don't look bad but i think ill try to find an aftermarket set of wheels that look like the bmw wheels

gerzand

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A local shop here sells adaptive lug nuts with a floating head for this exact purpose. You'll still have to get the wheels bored tho. PM me and I can give you the details.

Toddy

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pmed you

Toddy

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another question is how wide of a rim can I run on the front?

princelybug

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This depends on how much you want to stretch your tires and/or how much you are lowered. I'd say no wider than 9" in the front.

gerzand

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The name of the design is a "Wobble Lug Nut"

They are available online here.

They state right in the specs that they will make 112's fit 114.3's, etc..... No boring needed.

http://www.lakeshorewheelandtire.com...n=item&id=2890

My buddy is running these with no issues

Have fun!

Toddy

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I want to stretch as little as possible. I have a shop that can narrow the wheels down. So Ill buy 4 Rear wheels since the offset is closer to correct and Ill have the shop take an inch out of the pair that will go on the front.

Thanks again for the info

Toddy

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o btw the BMW wheels are 5x120 not 5x112

myron

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how would that work without borign the wheels? can the studs 114.3 go throught the holes on the wheels that are 112? I looked into these before too because I wanted audi wheels but I couldn't find anyone that was running them to tell me exactly what to do. It would be nice to see someone do something like this, change it up from all the work,volk... wheels everyone has now.

gerzand

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oh, lol..... terry919 had me all mixed up. oh well.

gerzand

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Yes, the 2.3mm diameter that you are off doesnt prevent the studs from coming through the wheels, though they do just barely fit. Then the bias can be absorbed by these "wobbling" heads on the lugs. Bingo.

Toddy

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Heres a pic. Inside the nut there is a floating thread hole that can move inside the bolt so the bolt can center itself inside the lug hole.

princelybug

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^
How safe is this? What if you push your car often? Will the lugs hold tight?

Toddy

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I don't think they will work with the 5.6mm difference I need. I wonder If I can have the bolt holes on the wheels filled and re drilled?

Toddy

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I'd imagine they would be as safe as spacers. A little locktite is good insurance. Check them every time you change your oil and you should be fine.

princelybug

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I would advise against it, although I know of at least 1 member who's had wheels bored out. Personally, I think it's better to just find wheels with the proper bolt pattern.

gerzand

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Some people dont recommend them if you are making crazy horsepower, but Im sure thed be fine or else theyd have a hell of a lawsuit on their hands by now. This isnt that new of a concept either

gerzand

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Well of course they wouldnt, but you COULD do all that work... i dont know if itd be worth it tho.

myron

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yea I don't think they would work with such a huge difference in bolt pattern.

myron

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Why would oyu advise agains it? Do you think that the structure of the wheels would be compromised and wheel wouldn't be as strong?
I don't think this would be worth doing unless you get the wheels really really cheap, but if you love them that much and want something different that no one has, then more power to you.

princelybug

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Safety is definitely an issue. Also, as you mentioned, you'd have to "really really like the wheel, get it cheap, love them that much..." for it to be worth it.

I don't know how much it costs to change the bolt pattern on a set of rims, but with the cost of that added to each rim, you can get a "better" one.

Unless, you "really really" like the wheel.

Toddy

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WeldCraft wheels would be the ones to do it if it can be done. I emailed them so we will see what they say. If I could just find a set of wheels that look like these I would buy them right now...

Toddy

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So I just talked to James at WeldCraft Wheels and he said they may be able to change the lug pattern on the wheels so I won't have to run adapters. I had to send him pictures of the wheels so he can see. If that's the case I will run 4 Rear wheels and I will have them take 1 inch out of the pair that will go on the front...

gerzand

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Nice, keep us updated!

myron

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nice seems like you are really dedicated to this. keep us updated because I really wanna see someone do this

Toddy

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I will but it wont be done till tax time. this is my number one priority. I plan on having the finish redone to Black Chrome which I think would look sweet on my DPG and adding the Tien SS to bring the stance down.

With the 28 offset how close will they be to flush? Im sure Ill be rolling fenders as well. It might be cool to widen the front fenders though to clear the BMW OEM fronts... We will see but I will keep everyone updated.