Legault

Hello everyone,

I posted a question similar to this waaay back but have now just gotten around to discovering some things. Back during the summer my father bought a tl-s that had been lowered and put on 19 inch RonJon wheels. The car vibrated alot at certain speeds and after actually looking at the wheels, we discovered that one was quite bent. We just look it to our local tire guy who sent the wheel to a repair place which decided that it could not be fixed. He has advised us to switch back to stock saying that 19s do not have enough side wall and that damage will be a continuing problem.

My dad's concern is:
He wants the car to look good but doesn't want to have to keep dealing with the wheels (We also had all over our tires continually going flat until we slimed all of them). We have never dealt with anything but stock cars so we're not exactly sure what looks good or bad.

Would stocks and lowered suspension look goofy?
What should we do about this situation?

pictures of the car (we found it on acurazine):https://acurazine.com/forums/member-cars-sale-49/2007-acura-tl-type-s-29k-miles-19-ron-jon-wheels-lowered-fully-loaded-%2425-450-a-782036/#post12145184

1sicktlcuz

19 ftw

Legault

I have been looking around the site and some say 18s offer more comfort (the ride's pretty rough right now) and are less likely to be damaged. Is this significantly so?

Italiano

^yes 18's FTW


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CaliWowie

well brother, its all about sacrifice....I personaly think every tl looks the best with 19" ad handeling gets better also..

The biger rim you have the more chance the road is gonna mess up ur tires...its just how much you can dedicate yourself t avoiding road hazards.

And yea i do think 17swill lookgoofy....you sound notice longer tire life going to 18" i wouldnt go lower then that....

How much did those prings lower your car? did you notice adifferance in comfort? what abot handling? would you recomend itfor a everyday driver car?

XxBvanxX

What size tires is this car probably running?

Italiano

235/40/18

CLtotheTL32

iTrader: (3)

I met your dad at the last VA meet, his KBP TL-S is gorgeous.

Anyways let me try to figure this out, y'all keep having problems with the 19" RJs so you are considering putting the 17" stock wheels on. The car is dropped on springs and you are asking if the car will look weird being dropped on stock wheels? Is that what you are asking? If so, I think dropped on stockies is a hot look. Here is SharkBreath's NBP Type-S with the stock 17" Type-S wheels and the Eibach Pro-Kit Springs:





Keep in mind he's running wheel spacers so your wheels won't be as flush as his. Anyways, I think the car looks fine

Legault

Ha ha, I don't think you've met him as he has never been to a meet in his life. You may have met the previous owner? We've only had it since the summer.

Thanks for the reply. Yeah that's pretty much what I'm asking. We'd be open to any suggestions though. It's nice to have some input from the people who are professionals. We've used this forum many times for my 2nd gen tl.

Caliwowie- Not sure how far it was lowered as we didn't do it, the website says 1 inch front and rear though. It's hard to tell how the ride comfort's been affected as one of the wheels is bent causing the car to vibrate all the time. Plus we never drove the car stock.

Also, we've been getting 31 MPG doing 70-80 on the freeway. We assumed this was the suspension drop rather than wheels. Anyone have any knowledge about this?

rondog

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If you were running 235/35/19 as suggested, on an 8.0" width wheel, the sidewall would be fairly aggressive. One way around that would be to run 245/35/19, that would help a little with the protection. If you are a somewhat careful driver, I'm sure you won't be constantly bending wheels even if you stick with 19". I haven't bent wheel in over 5 years and I run 20" and 19" in NY. There might still be a chance that you may bend an 18" even, it all depends on the angle, force, timing and size of the road irregularity.

18" can look good, better than 17", but not as aggressive as 19":















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CLtotheTL32

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Ah yes, I must have met the previous owner. Oops

Legault

Thanks rondog, my father and I actually drive very carefully, dodging pretty much any irregularity in the road even if we have stock wheels. Now it's a question of comfort and reliability. When we bought it, our tires would take turns, no joke, going flat. Every day there would be a new culprit. The tires were pretty beat up so we assumed this always wouldn't be the problem. Is that right?

Also, one of the wheels has been bent beyond repair so when we drive we get oscillations that come and go at different speeds. Because of this we cannot judge how really comfortable the ride really is on 19s (right now it's not). Obviously they should affect comfort but right now driving the 2nd gen feels like driving a limousine compared to the tl-s. My dad likes a sporty feel but not something that is uncomfortable to drive to say, Washington DC from lower VA.

bluetl04

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hey man...whats going on...are you interested in selling the ron jons?

Legault

Hey, anyone know where the info about the RonJon wheels would be stamped? We might we leaning towards getting another 19 and want to know what our offset is as there appear to be several different offsets available.

Thanks everyone for your input.

bluetl04- Looks like they may not be up for sale.

07tl-s6spd

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well i know on oem wheels its stamped on the back of the spokes of the wheel...

rondog

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Its definetly a 32mm offset, since we make those sp[ecifically for the 3rd Gen TL. If I see a decent pic of the wheel, I can tell, because the 32mm offset has a deeper drop center area than the mnore shallow higher offset of the 48mm.

And tires make a WORLD of difference, not just size, but model and brand. I ran some Pirelli tires that were sticky as hell, but felt rough and raw. I ran some Toyo Tires of the same size later and they felt alot more comfortable.

Legault

I'm still in college right now (10 days until break), so I only have some older pictures from my cell phone. Not sure if they're clear enough.

Well this is my first attempt at image uploading.... here goes:




What tires would you suggest for comfort? I had heard sumitomos were comfortable and cheap.

Legault

Hang on, if the stocks are 235/45/17 that would mean (assuming I didn't mess up) at 60mph on the speedo:

235/35/19- actual speed= 63mph
235/45/19- actual speed= 63.6mph

That's a bit large of an error isn't it? Or is it a standard procedure to adjust the speedo when getting new wheels? Also would that decrease acceleration?

06UA6

it all depends on the weight of the rim and tire i believe. I used to have 19's on my rsx-s they were 3 pieced forged and really light so i really didnt loose much acceleration. As for the look on a TL i think 19's are a much better look it fills the gao nicely and also keep in mind of what your lowering your car on. if thats what you tend to do.
Good Luck.!!

rondog

iTrader: (1)

235/35/19 is as close as you can get, the .6 difference doesn't represent all tires. You should look at the actual tire manufacturer's website for dimensions because they all vary sloightly. The difference cannot be picked up by the eye on the speedo anyway. 245/35/19 will be a bit more, but still tolerable with the accuracy difference, and will provide a little better protection / comfort.

Based off the car being a type S and the pics, I am sure those are 100% 32mm offset.

BTW, the wheels in 19" weigh 25.5 lbs, just about the same as the stock 17" wheels. If you really want to save some weight and increase durability / comfort, 18" weighs 22.5 lbs and 235/40/18 will be 2x more durable / comfortable.

rondog

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3 piece forged wheels aren't always the lightest, the rivets that hold the wheel together can weigh 5 lbs alone if they are the standard steel ones. Titanium rivets ar aot lighter but can cost aot more, might be better to find a single piece forged wheel if you want to save weight. Honestly, at this point, this is not an F1 car, so the cost to save 4-5 lbs per wheel might overide your intentions of looking stylish without slowing the car down.

SweetJazz

19" Legends with a +32 offset and 245/35-19 FTW! The 245's provide good protection and a perfect looking sidewall.