Originally Posted by MrHeeltoe

If I had a nickel for every time someone emailed this stipulation when asking for suspension purchase consultation, or posted it in a forum, the HT-Spec TSX would already have a Kraftwerks Supercharger on it. The term “bouncy” in particular is really turning into a pet peeve of mine, as I will explain further in a minute. First I would like to quell this issue of track suspension and spring rates.

Guess what, TSX, TL, and Accord drivers…you all ask for the same thing! I find an interesting irony in the hesitation to pull the trigger on a high quality suspension kit for these cars that is under $1000 and yet is not a track suspension. First of all, anything anywhere near being a track-worthy suspension is going to cost closer to $2000 than at or under $1000. Secondly, nobody really makes a race-worthy kit for these cars*. So the risk of accidentally buying a kit that is not good for the street is really very low. Tein Basic and Super Street kits, as well as kits from Function/Form (F2) are real winners, as is the Neuspeed Super Cup Kit that features Koni Shocks. Each is suited to a slightly different demographic, but HeelToe is here to consult and service you, enabling you to make the best decision possible for your specific needs and conditions.

Originally Posted by I hate cars

I don't like it when they describe it as bouncy either. You don't know if they're talking about spring rates that are too high or if it's under damped. Two complete opposite ends of the sprctrum but the same word is used to describe both.

I guess that's a little OT.

To get rid of all of this misunderstanding and to be able to make an educated choice of suspension, we need to know spring rates. In the Domestic world, springs are ordered based on their rate. In the TL world, they're ordered by the amount of the drop. The only way to tell how it's going to ride is by other members' subjective opinions. If rates were listed anyone could make an educated guess about how it's going to ride and handle (roll and balance) without relying on others' opinions.

Originally Posted by MrHeeltoe

You are talking about a big undertaking here...since the import scene is much less in tune with the engineering of things a lot of assumptions are made on spring rates that are simply not true. As you know, a car with blown stock shocks on stock springs rides and handles much worse than an aggressive street setup done right. The degree of complication that I get in conversations results in a complete erasure and re-imprinting of the customers ideas. this helps them understand better. But the might of internet is against us.