TL '04 AT sport shifting on its own?!?
02-16-2011, 08:23 PM
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TL '04 AT sport shifting on its own?!?
I have an AT 04 TL, and I am having the problem that when driving in the sport shift mode, it is shifting from 3rd to 4th and 5th on it's own. Has anyone else encountered this problem, if so, how did you solve it? Look forward to your responce!
02-16-2011, 08:35 PM
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If you run the car over 3500 rpm's for more than five seconds in sport mode the tranny will automaticly shift in order to protect the engine it doesn't matter what gear you're on it will shift itself for engine protection
02-16-2011, 08:50 PM
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02-16-2011, 09:00 PM
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Check the tranny failures on the second gen tl. Thats the main reason why the 3 gen tl tranny has a lot of safety features.But do note that some 04 and 05 tl's are having tranny problems after 90,000 miles so i recommend you change the tranny oil every time you change your engine oil good luck!!!!
02-16-2011, 09:04 PM
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Check the tranny failures on the second gen tl. Thats the main reason why the 3 gen tl tranny has a lot of safety features.But do note that some 04 and 05 tl's are having tranny problems after 90,000 miles so i recommend you change the tranny oil every time you change your engine oil good luck!!!!
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02-17-2011, 08:24 AM
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Hmmmm. I've never heard that. I don't think my '07 does that (not positive though); might have to try it.
02-17-2011, 12:51 PM
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I wish this were true kind of. But I've done track days where rpms never drop below 3,500rpm for minutes on end. When the car was new I accidentally left in in sport shift second gear with the stereo up and drove down the freeway for a couple minutes with rpms above 5,700.
02-17-2011, 12:52 PM
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I know I answered this in PM but it's most likely an electrical issue which any competent dealer could troubleshoot in minutes with a scanner and simple voltmeter.
02-17-2011, 02:49 PM
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the car automatically downshifts...if your slowing down...below 38mph and it will go from 5th to 4th....19mph...from 4th to 3rd....and less than 5mph from 3rd to 1st....
the only automatic upshift is from 1st to 2nd....
i drive the car in SS mode all day everyday for the past 3 years and 70K miles....yes i know my shit....
02-17-2011, 04:57 PM
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you kidding me....
the car automatically downshifts...if your slowing down...below 38mph and it will go from 5th to 4th....19mph...from 4th to 3rd....and less than 5mph from 3rd to 1st....
the only automatic upshift is from 1st to 2nd....
i drive the car in SS mode all day everyday for the past 3 years and 70K miles....yes i know my shit....
the car automatically downshifts...if your slowing down...below 38mph and it will go from 5th to 4th....19mph...from 4th to 3rd....and less than 5mph from 3rd to 1st....
the only automatic upshift is from 1st to 2nd....
i drive the car in SS mode all day everyday for the past 3 years and 70K miles....yes i know my shit....
02-17-2011, 05:06 PM
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that post was meant for jr-type-r who said car automatically shifts up after being @3500 + rpm for 5 sec....quoted you by mistake....
you are getting agitated for no reason....e-thug-in doesnt help when you NEED help...GL...
you are getting agitated for no reason....e-thug-in doesnt help when you NEED help...GL...
02-17-2011, 05:30 PM
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02-17-2011, 05:32 PM
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Lets play nice now....
OP, it sounds like an issue with the electronics for your transmission not realizing that you are in SS. Have you spilled any coffee or anything in the area by the shifter? I'd be willing to bet that there is some sort of corrosion or something on the contacts that isn't allowing the car into SS mode.
02-17-2011, 05:36 PM
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well played 
and sorry for my early message and it does sound like an electrical problem....
Lets play nice now....
OP, it sounds like an issue with the electronics for your transmission not realizing that you are in SS. Have you spilled any coffee or anything in the area by the shifter? I'd be willing to bet that there is some sort of corrosion or something on the contacts that isn't allowing the car into SS mode.
OP, it sounds like an issue with the electronics for your transmission not realizing that you are in SS. Have you spilled any coffee or anything in the area by the shifter? I'd be willing to bet that there is some sort of corrosion or something on the contacts that isn't allowing the car into SS mode.
02-17-2011, 05:36 PM
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Lets play nice now....
OP, it sounds like an issue with the electronics for your transmission not realizing that you are in SS. Have you spilled any coffee or anything in the area by the shifter? I'd be willing to bet that there is some sort of corrosion or something on the contacts that isn't allowing the car into SS mode.
OP, it sounds like an issue with the electronics for your transmission not realizing that you are in SS. Have you spilled any coffee or anything in the area by the shifter? I'd be willing to bet that there is some sort of corrosion or something on the contacts that isn't allowing the car into SS mode.
Now that definitely sounds very logical!! I have been asked the same question by my mechanic! I have been considering changing the shifter to a new unit! Thanks for the advice!!
02-17-2011, 05:41 PM
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how many miles on the car and since when is it going on ? by any chance u have warranty ?
also...does the gear show in your display when your in SS mode ? and can you shift down from 5th to 4th using the SS shifter at 60mph ?
also...does the gear show in your display when your in SS mode ? and can you shift down from 5th to 4th using the SS shifter at 60mph ?
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02-17-2011, 05:41 PM
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No problem! Going back to the shifter, I have considered that part very seriously!! I have received the question of spilling something or maybe a coin falling in the shifter area, and it is very possible. You have to understand my wife has used my car a few time! Ok ok, my mistake!!
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02-17-2011, 05:46 PM
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Started at around 60K. My warranty has long gone west! It downshifts very well, and all the gears, up or down, show on the display!
02-17-2011, 06:02 PM
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hear me out 04 and 05 tl's shift from first to second. 06 to 09 you have to shift 1st to second in sport mode and i have a friend from acura that owns a 05 tl and told me that the car protects itself but it actually does downshift when you're in sport mode from 5 to 4 or 4 to 3 its perfectly normal if you're going slow obviously it has to downshift to a stronger gear trust me i'm not b.s and i'm not saying don't listen to the other messages there is a lot of awesome people here who can help you out like they have helped me but i'm almost 99.9% positive that your car will shift by itself in ss if its in a high rev mine does it my friends does it.I could only say its maybe the year of the car lets see if anyone else with an 04 or 05 has the same issue.
02-17-2011, 06:58 PM
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The '04-'06 TLs will 100% for sure hold any gear but first at redline for an indefinite amount of time. The trans does not care how many rpms you're spinning. There's no need to "protect" it from extended high rpms because high rpms don't affect it. Driving too slow in too high of a gear under load would damage the trans first.
As I said, I've done track days and the TL will sit there on the revlimiter without shifting if you ask it to. And as I said, I've driven down the freeway for several minutes at nearly 6,000rpm before realizing it was in second gear.
As I said, I've done track days and the TL will sit there on the revlimiter without shifting if you ask it to. And as I said, I've driven down the freeway for several minutes at nearly 6,000rpm before realizing it was in second gear.
02-17-2011, 07:29 PM
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hear me out 04 and 05 tl's shift from first to second. 06 to 09 you have to shift 1st to second in sport mode and i have a friend from acura that owns a 05 tl and told me that the car protects itself but it actually does downshift when you're in sport mode from 5 to 4 or 4 to 3 its perfectly normal if you're going slow obviously it has to downshift to a stronger gear trust me i'm not b.s and i'm not saying don't listen to the other messages there is a lot of awesome people here who can help you out like they have helped me but i'm almost 99.9% positive that your car will shift by itself in ss if its in a high rev mine does it my friends does it.I could only say its maybe the year of the car lets see if anyone else with an 04 or 05 has the same issue.
I was up in Stinson beach area this past weekend and driving on highway 1, and I was in 3rd gear the whole time.
02-17-2011, 07:30 PM
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The '04-'06 TLs will 100% for sure hold any gear but first at redline for an indefinite amount of time. The trans does not care how many rpms you're spinning. There's no need to "protect" it from extended high rpms because high rpms don't affect it. Driving too slow in too high of a gear under load would damage the trans first.
As I said, I've done track days and the TL will sit there on the revlimiter without shifting if you ask it to. And as I said, I've driven down the freeway for several minutes at nearly 6,000rpm before realizing it was in second gear.
As I said, I've done track days and the TL will sit there on the revlimiter without shifting if you ask it to. And as I said, I've driven down the freeway for several minutes at nearly 6,000rpm before realizing it was in second gear.
02-28-2011, 06:47 PM
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Jeez now you guys worry me i'm going to have mine cheked out since i bought mine second hand and has always shifted gears when it's on a high rpm in sport mode.
03-01-2011, 09:40 AM
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Interesting. I would be curious to see what you find. Took mine out a few days ago and sat it on 5,000rpm for about 15 seconds, no shift. I wonder why yours is different.
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The '04-'06 TLs will 100% for sure hold any gear but first at redline for an indefinite amount of time. The trans does not care how many rpms you're spinning. There's no need to "protect" it from extended high rpms because high rpms don't affect it. Driving too slow in too high of a gear under load would damage the trans first.
As I said, I've done track days and the TL will sit there on the revlimiter without shifting if you ask it to. And as I said, I've driven down the freeway for several minutes at nearly 6,000rpm before realizing it was in second gear.
As I said, I've done track days and the TL will sit there on the revlimiter without shifting if you ask it to. And as I said, I've driven down the freeway for several minutes at nearly 6,000rpm before realizing it was in second gear.
Well, in one other case as well - see below.
There is a Grade Logic system that will cause a shift, even in SS mode, under certain circumstances. But those are downshifts too.
03-01-2011, 12:14 PM
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Check this out guys i just came from my local acura dealer, (MISSED WORK BECAUSE OF IT) and turns out i supposingly have a bad gearbox and they said that the vehicles performance problem i mentioned (another thread that i made, Is there something wrong with my tl?) could possibly be the gearbox. They told me that the shifter is kind of loose and its not marking correctly when its on drive and also told me that on ss mode the shifter is quite wobbly and probably the tranny is holding one gear while the dash marks another.Sounds weird and they will replace it for 800 dollars plus tax . What do you guys think? Take notes Ricky this might be your same problem
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damn thats an expensive fix....any chance of the dealership covering the costs? or any chance of a DIY ?
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Nop and i'm dealing with the same bastards that only wanted to cover 50% cost of my cars cracked dash not 600 dollars but a whopping 1,000 dollars since they got to ship it here in P.R and there isn't another local customer service within 110 miles where i live so i'm screwed
03-02-2011, 02:54 PM
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OP, it sounds like an issue with the electronics for your transmission not realizing that you are in SS. Have you spilled any coffee or anything in the area by the shifter? I'd be willing to bet that there is some sort of corrosion or something on the contacts that isn't allowing the car into SS mode.[/quote]
^^^^^ AGREE
I spilled a road pop in my shifter a few years ago.... It acts up every now and then. Unhook the battery for a few minutes and it will work fine for a while
Give it a try.
^^^^^ AGREE
I spilled a road pop in my shifter a few years ago.... It acts up every now and then. Unhook the battery for a few minutes and it will work fine for a while
Give it a try.
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OP, it sounds like an issue with the electronics for your transmission not realizing that you are in SS. Have you spilled any coffee or anything in the area by the shifter? I'd be willing to bet that there is some sort of corrosion or something on the contacts that isn't allowing the car into SS mode.
I spilled a road pop in my shifter a few years ago.... It acts up every now and then. Unhook the battery for a few minutes and it will work fine for a while
Give it a try.
[/QUOTE]Well at least i havent spilled anything on the shifter but probably the previous owner did since i bought it secondhand i don't know but i will check i don't want to pay 800 dollars for a new shifter we'll see what happens.
03-03-2011, 01:03 AM
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Why don't you take it apart and clean all the electrical contacts with electrical contact cleaner and some cotton swabs and such.
Also tighten up the random screws that make it "wobbly" and you should be done.
Just before you do this, does the gear # show up on the dash when you switch into SS mode?
Also tighten up the random screws that make it "wobbly" and you should be done.
Just before you do this, does the gear # show up on the dash when you switch into SS mode?
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^^^ great minds think alike....i asked him that already....
he said it the gear does show up in the dash....
he said it the gear does show up in the dash....
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Why don't you take it apart and clean all the electrical contacts with electrical contact cleaner and some cotton swabs and such.
Also tighten up the random screws that make it "wobbly" and you should be done.
Just before you do this, does the gear # show up on the dash when you switch into SS mode?
Also tighten up the random screws that make it "wobbly" and you should be done.
Just before you do this, does the gear # show up on the dash when you switch into SS mode?
03-03-2011, 06:58 PM
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Why don't you take it apart and clean all the electrical contacts with electrical contact cleaner and some cotton swabs and such.
Also tighten up the random screws that make it "wobbly" and you should be done.
Just before you do this, does the gear # show up on the dash when you switch into SS mode?
Also tighten up the random screws that make it "wobbly" and you should be done.
Just before you do this, does the gear # show up on the dash when you switch into SS mode?
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