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Old 10-26-2009, 04:20 PM
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Switchback Resistors Not Working? (Pics and Vids Included)

I finally got that wack ass tint off of my headlights yesterday and with help from Jason (Bobbylight83), we blacked out my headlights and added a pair of V2 Switchbacks and a pair of resistors wired through the trunk.

When the car was off, the switchbacks worked with no flaws whatsoever, it looked like the resistors were doing their job. Once the car was turned on though, it was a different story.

Everything works fine when the car is off, but once the car is on the flashers work fine at normal speed, but once you turn on either the left or right turn signals, they go crazy.

Video of Car off with Flashers on:


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Using the DIY's and his own personal experience, Jason installed the resistors properly and they are still acting weird.

Any explanations on why this is happening? Are the resistors faulty?
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Bump. Anybody know what's going on with this?
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Do they have to be hooked up a certain way to be in series? I'm reaching here.
Maybe a faulty unit?
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Are they on the right wires?

Are you sure you put the resistors on the right way?

Get a meter and test the resistor to see if it is even working.
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Tyler, I talked to Jason about this issue. Im leaving to come back tom. So I can check it out this weekend.
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Thanks for the responses guys!

Bobbylight83 (Jason) actually did them for me. He had done them previously on his car and him and I both were looking at the DIY in the 3G garage to make sure we were doing them correctly. I just find it odd that the flashers are fine but the turn signals go crazy.

Daniel that sounds awesome! I bowling in a tournament both Saturday and Sunday, so it will have to be later in the day until I'm able to meet up with you guys. Just let me know what's best for yall, I have no problem driving anywhere I need to.
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Thanks for the responses guys!

Bobbylight83 (Jason) actually did them for me. He had done them previously on his car and him and I both were looking at the DIY in the 3G garage to make sure we were doing them correctly. I just find it odd that the flashers are fine but the turn signals go crazy.

Daniel that sounds awesome! I bowling in a tournament both Saturday and Sunday, so it will have to be later in the day until I'm able to meet up with you guys. Just let me know what's best for yall, I have no problem driving anywhere I need to.
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This happened to me too. I have L.E.D.'s in the front and rear turn signals. Which resistors did you use? I bought the three ohms and they worked fine when the emergency flashers were on, but once I flipped the swtiched to either side, they would hyperflash. Even if you only have two leds for the front, mount the 6 ohm resitors in your car. The 3 ohms, I believe, are only really good for tapping the current at the closest light socket, which is the rear. I'm guessing it feels a strange drain in the electircal circuit somehwere and that happens to be in the front signals. Since the front signals are so far away from the resistors it produces the hyperflash. Makes sense?
What i did instead of removing the 3 ohms from the rear, I just bought another pair of 3ohms for the fronts and tapped there. So far, so good.
Not sure if this will work for you though.

Possible solution:
If you have 3 ohms in the rear, try using 6 ohms instead.
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Wow I'm just now seeing my double post. So dumb

Thanks for your input man! Don't quote me on this, but I'm pretty sure I'm running the 3-ohm resistors like you mentioned. It sounds like I'll just go ahead and order the 6-ohm resistors to replace these once a few local guys come and check it out. One thinks that one of the taps isn't in enough, so we are going to replace that piece and see what happens.

I'll keep you posted
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Please don't take my use of CAPS the wrong way

The hazard flashers ARE NOT on a resistive monitored circuit.... meaning that they wont hyper blink if there is a lack of load.

This tells me that you either

A) Didnt buy the correct resistors for your application
B) Wired the rssitors up incorrectly ....or
C) Both resistors are bad (highly unlikely)

ALSO.... and this is the most important part....

DONT USE WIRE TAPS. Please solder your connections! I cant even tell ya how many issues ive had with load ressitors and wire taps. haha!

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^Awesome! Thanks for your input man!

I think it's come down to my resistors having too low of an ohm frequency to solve the problem. I'm running 3-ohm resistors and I've been told in the posts above I should bump em up to 6-ohm.

Within the next week a few guys are coming over to see what they think it could be. If we can't decide what the issue is, i'll defiantly take your comments into consideration and see if I can troubleshoot it from there. It's so annoying having the hyper flash
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Ok man,

I had skimmed through the thread earlier and not seen what Ohmage you were running.

Yeah, for each turn signal bulb you remove, you need (1) 50w 6Ohm resistor.

You dont need anyone to come over and tell ya anything... :P
Just order some up online and solder them in. And remember, no wire taps! They may work today, but will lose their grip over time.

Have a good one!
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^Will do! Thank you sir
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Originally Posted by CLtotheTL32
I finally got that wack ass tint off of my headlights yesterday and with help from Jason (Bobbylight83), we blacked out my headlights and added a pair of V2 Switchbacks and a pair of resistors wired through the trunk.

When the car was off, the switchbacks worked with no flaws whatsoever, it looked like the resistors were doing their job. Once the car was turned on though, it was a different story.

Everything works fine when the car is off, but once the car is on the flashers work fine at normal speed, but once you turn on either the left or right turn signals, they go crazy.

Video of Car off with Flashers on:


Video of Car On with Left Turn Signal On:


Pictures of the Resistor on Left Side:




Pictures of the Resistor on Right Side:




Using the DIY's and his own personal experience, Jason installed the resistors properly and they are still acting weird.

Any explanations on why this is happening? Are the resistors faulty?
Hey bro I have a quick question, do your 8k match really good with you switchback ? or do you recommend the 6k to match it better. Since I'm getting them I want to match the headlights but not sure which one to go with your, input will be appreciated.
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Originally Posted by Dat Boi Ralph
Hey bro I have a quick question, do your 8k match really good with you switchback ? or do you recommend the 6k to match it better. Since I'm getting them I want to match the headlights but not sure which one to go with your, input will be appreciated.
The Kaixen 6k bulbs are a perfect match for the switchbacks. Josh at excelerate sells them
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Originally Posted by BoBByLiGhT83
The Kaixen 6k bulbs are a perfect match for the switchbacks. Josh at excelerate sells them

Thanks bro, they are kinda pricey tho
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The 6k look awesome but the 8k are just a personal preference. If you are worried about matching more than anything, go with the 6k. I wanted a little contrast between the headlight and switchbacks, therefore I did the 8k.
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I was wondering what wires I need to find on an 04 TL (passenger side) to connect my resistors to? I cant seem to get it to work
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from what it looks like and people are saying u dont have enough power. u need two of the gold ones per side. ( i have a set that can be had, if u want) or theres a diy on here and the guy used a bigger gray resistor 8 ohms i believe. i tired to find it real quick but couldnt, a diy is def on here.. good luck.
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https://acurazine.com/forums/3g-tl-2004-2008-93/how-install-led-resistors-lots-pictures-3g-garage-g-079-a-637923/

^^this is what i was talking about. its on the main page.. hope this helps..
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Hey guys, sorry for the late response to everything.

I finally got my switchbacks working properly. Another member and I checked out my previous resistors today and they were 6-ohm, 50 watt, which was interesting considering we thought that I wasn't running a high enough ohm to counterbalance the switchbacks. We soldered the new resistors (6 ohm, 100 watt) to the correct wires and they work great!

I think I just got a shitty batch of resistors the first round because the 6-ohms and 50 watts should have been plenty, but oh well. Thanks to everybody with the help and inquiries
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I have the 60 led switchbacks from autolumination.com and have the 6 ohm resistors. I installed them on "turkey" day and everything worked fine. I put the resistors in the rear right at the harness with the taps. I also had ordered the wrong style bulbs I ordered the A/O (amber-off-amber-off) I meant to order the A/W (amber-white-amber-white), anyway I reordered those. Today my dash lights went out along with my signal lights. both fuses blew actually as soon as my XM radio service kicked on. I changed both fuses and then the lights started to bug out on me. I had to pull to the side of the road and take everything out in the rain, bulbs and resistors. I don't know what the hell went wrong. I'm not all that great with knowing what resistor size to use or in the bulbs are no good.
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^Holy shit man that blows!

I have the 48-led switchbacks, unlike your 60-led, so that may have something to do with it. Maybe yours require more energy to power it.

You have 6ohm resistors, but how many watts is it rated for? I had 6ohm, 50 watt resistors and those didn't work. I bumped it up to 6ohm, 100 watt, and they work fine.
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that's what i'm thinking. the resistors aren't probably enough. I have the 6 ohm/50 watt resistors. Where did you get your 100 watt resistors?

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Originally Posted by CubanLynx84
that's what i'm thinking. the resistors aren't probably enough. I have the 6 ohm/50 watt resistors. Where did you get your 100 watt resistors?
That's exactly what my problem was. As soon as I hooked up the 100 watt resistors, they worked just fine! I would recommend ordering 100 watt and see if that works. I used a soldering gun the 2nd time around too. Try to get your hands on one if you can. The wire taps are great but may become loose and fall out after a while.
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Originally Posted by CLtotheTL32
That's exactly what my problem was. As soon as I hooked up the 100 watt resistors, they worked just fine! I would recommend ordering 100 watt and see if that works. I used a soldering gun the 2nd time around too. Try to get your hands on one if you can. The wire taps are great but may become loose and fall out after a while.
Where did you get yours from? I don't see them on v-leds or autolumination
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Originally Posted by CubanLynx84
Where did you get yours from? I don't see them on v-leds or autolumination
http://www.parts-express.com/pe/show...number=019-015

The only problem is that I have 6 ohm resistors, which aren't an option anymore on the website, they only have the 4 and 8 ohm. You may want to shoot them an e-mail and see what they would recommend. That site is legit btw. Shipping is super fast and you even get a screwdriver pen thing
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See that's the thing I don't know that much about resistors. But I'll give them a call and see what they say. Thanks CL'32
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Originally Posted by CubanLynx84
See that's the thing I don't know that much about resistors. But I'll give them a call and see what they say. Thanks CL'32
Trust me, I don't either. Luckily I had another Acurazine member local to me that came over and helped me out. If it wasn't for him, I wouldn't have had any clue on what to do.

Let me know what they say when you call! And no problem
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the guy from autolumination told me that the 6 ohm 50 watts are more then enough and that the switchbacks are only gonna pull about 25 watts on them. but somehow i just dont feel like that is correct. my gut is telling me to get the 4 ohm 100watt resistors from the site you suggested. Also I called another place and asked them what is can I use and he told me to use two 212 ohm 50 watt resistors on each side ran in parallel. I don't know if it's actually 2.12 or 212, but he said it would make up to 6 ohm and 100 watts.
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^I wish I knew what to tell you man but I don't know a damn thing about wiring and shit like that. From personal experience, I would at least try to bump up the wattage and see what happens. If they are only supposed to pull 25 watts each, maybe they are in reality pulling more like 27, therefore the 50 watt resistors aren't enough by just a bit. Only an idea though.
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well today i called the place you posted, and the guy told me i can use the 8 ohm/100w resistors its just gonna slow down current or something to that effect. And as for the 212 thing, he corrected me I would have to use two 12 ohm/50w to get the 6ohm/100w setup. so i would have to run 2 resistors on each side in parallel.
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