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[dRu] 01-07-2009 08:53 PM

Switch for heated seats not lighting up
 
When I installed my Dice unit I messed around with the harnesses that plug into the switches for the heated seats. When I plugged them back in, the heated seat logo didn't light up when I turned on my headlights. It's weird because the amber LEDs still light up when I turn the heated seats on.

Does anyone know what I need to do? It's not a huge deal but it's annoying.

:wish:

Elegant TYPE S 01-07-2009 09:39 PM

Figure out if the heated seat is actually working. If it working then all you lost is the illumination and you should' be warrantied. If you heated seat isn't even working then you gotta check your connections and fuses.

Always check fuses when something doesn't work first. I can save you alot of headache.

[dRu] 01-07-2009 10:03 PM


Originally Posted by Elegant TYPE S (Post 10366481)
Figure out if the heated seat is actually working. If it working then all you lost is the illumination and you should' be warrantied. If you heated seat isn't even working then you gotta check your connections and fuses.

Always check fuses when something doesn't work first. I can save you alot of headache.

It should be warrantied? I'll check the fuse first before giving Acura a call. Do you know if the fuse for the seats is in the fusebox by the pedals or the one by the air filter?

hmian00 01-07-2009 10:07 PM

same thing happened to me but i dont have warranty and i got this extended warranty crap which sucks...any other way to this?

EVOLICARUS 01-07-2009 10:07 PM

that happened to me.. my switch didn't light up anymore (drivers side only) but the orange light still worked when it switched it over to high or low. Turned out to be the bulb needed to be replaced.

VQPower37 01-07-2009 10:12 PM

its probably the bulb ... bulbs don't seem to last too long in this car

hmian00 01-07-2009 10:14 PM

any diy anywhere on this site about it?

avs007 01-07-2009 10:41 PM

I have the opposite problem.. Mine lights up, but the amber bulb only works intermittently... (if I tap the switch, it will work)... But the heated seat itself always work... Acura told me that bulbs are not covered under warranty.

TLNinja 01-08-2009 02:03 AM


Originally Posted by VQPower37 (Post 10366760)
its probably the bulb ... bulbs don't seem to last too long in this car

+1, my driver side seat warmer logo is out as well as the select button next to my gauge cluster...

[dRu] 01-08-2009 07:19 AM


Originally Posted by EVOLICARUS (Post 10366701)
that happened to me.. my switch didn't light up anymore (drivers side only) but the orange light still worked when it switched it over to high or low. Turned out to be the bulb needed to be replaced.

Do you have a DIY for the bulb and part number? :wish:

sunny201 01-08-2009 09:21 AM


Originally Posted by [dRu] (Post 10368263)
Do you have a DIY for the bulb and part number? :wish:

If you need I have an extra heated seat switch unit lying around. Just PM me. I was going to put some blue leds in them, but never wound up doing it bc it would have been too much blue in my car.

sunny201 01-08-2009 09:25 AM

http://www.oemacuraparts.com/partloc...layCatalogid=0
im pretty sure thats the link to the part

djwoody 01-08-2009 09:45 AM

Same thing with mine - drivers side only lights up when it's turned on. Doesn't illuminate when headlights are on.

If it's only the bulb (heater works fine) does one have to replace the switch or can you just replace the bulb?

Any instructions on how to get to it without pulling the entire console apart?

VQPower37 01-08-2009 10:30 AM


Originally Posted by avs007 (Post 10366967)
I have the opposite problem.. Mine lights up, but the amber bulb only works intermittently... (if I tap the switch, it will work)... But the heated seat itself always work... Acura told me that bulbs are not covered under warranty.

bulbs not covered under warranty??? the bulbs next to my cluster went out and were replaced under warranty, check with your dealer again.

[dRu] 01-08-2009 11:02 AM


Originally Posted by sunny201 (Post 10368581)
http://www.oemacuraparts.com/partloc...layCatalogid=0
im pretty sure thats the link to the part

Is the bulb and switch just one part together? :/

Edit: How do you get the switch out once you pull out the harness? Does it release into the center console?

Elegant TYPE S 01-08-2009 11:46 AM

For those under warranty, just get it done at the dealer, its much easier IMO if you ask me and free. I'm not sure if the bulb replacement on the switch is something that is just screw off and replace or if it actually needs to be soldered in. I would think its soldering.

avs007 01-08-2009 12:12 PM


Originally Posted by VQPower37 (Post 10368830)
bulbs not covered under warranty??? the bulbs next to my cluster went out and were replaced under warranty, check with your dealer again.

Your dealer was being nice... Mine wasn't. I even checked the warranty myself. It actually explicitly states that bulbs are not covered. Personally I think it's horse crap... Our TL is only 3 years old and has 40,000 miles on it... (I have the Acura extended warranty) My other car is 11 years old and has 155,000 miles on it, and none of the interior lights or button lights have burned out. (knocks on wood)

I could try to argue the switch is defective, since the light only intermittantly turns on, and tapping the switch fixes it, which implies the switch mechanism for the light is defective. (I saw the schematics in the service manual, the switch is actually a dual, one for the light and a separate one for the heated seat). And the warranty explicitly states that switches ARE covered under warranty.

[dRu] 01-08-2009 12:51 PM

I'm going to have to check the fuse tonight and if that doesn't work, I guess I'll have to call up Acura for an appointment :/

pbcmedia 01-08-2009 11:54 PM

man there are so many interior lights out in my 04 u would think im driving around with the headlights off...(steering wheel controls, heated seat logos, one of the memory seat buttons, rear defrost, front defrost, passenger side heat controls, one of the homelink buttons.....lol o yea.... let me not forget the hazard light button) checked the fuses they're all good.... im about to take my car into the dealer to have it checked out because its just ridiculous.... its about the only thing i hate about the car.

realness 01-16-2009 06:21 PM

does anyone have instructions on how to replace the bulb? do you have to remove the whole console? or can the switch be popped out?

avs007 01-16-2009 06:49 PM


Originally Posted by realness (Post 10403008)
does anyone have instructions on how to replace the bulb? do you have to remove the whole console? or can the switch be popped out?

According to the service manual, the whole center console has to come out. It looked to be a PITA. However, the dealer only quoted me $60 to replace the switch, so I"m thinking if the dealer does it, they won't be taking out the whole console the way the service manual says to? Cuz $60 (which includes the price of the switch) seems too cheap to include the labor to remove the entire center console?

dragonlord 01-21-2009 09:27 PM

Mine went out, and the dealer replaced for nothing. The steering wheel control lights have gone out also. They replaced the first set, but these things have gone out again. The controls work, but they just don't light up. It seems like these bulbs don't last very long.

rbf351 01-22-2009 08:24 AM


Originally Posted by avs007 (Post 10403109)
According to the service manual, the whole center console has to come out. It looked to be a PITA. However, the dealer only quoted me $60 to replace the switch, so I"m thinking if the dealer does it, they won't be taking out the whole console the way the service manual says to? Cuz $60 (which includes the price of the switch) seems too cheap to include the labor to remove the entire center console?


it's maybe a 10 minute job to pull the switch out, all that has to be removed is the armrest. the metal trim just has to be lifted enough to get to the screws on each side, and then inside the armrest is another 2 screws. you then slide the armrest back a few inches, and pop the switch up from underneath.

nisreo 01-22-2009 09:09 AM

Seat heater switch bulb replacement

Remove the two silver trim pieces that run the length of your center console (start where it meets the armrest.)

Open the armrest lid and at the bottom of the storage box, remove the rubber cover.

Remove the two screws

Remove the two screws holding the rear section of the console to the front

Pull the rear of the console back

You should be able to see the sides of the switches now. They may have a silver sticker covering the bulbs. Remove the sticker for access to the bulbs.

Use a flathead to turn the bulbs counterclockwise, use a pick to remove them.

Put the new bulbs in and turn them clockwise.

Put it all back together the same way it came apart

[dRu] 01-23-2009 07:52 AM


Originally Posted by nisreo (Post 10425004)
Seat heater switch bulb replacement

Remove the two silver trim pieces that run the length of your center console (start where it meets the armrest.)

Open the armrest lid and at the bottom of the storage box, remove the rubber cover.

Remove the two screws

Remove the two screws holding the rear section of the console to the front

Pull the rear of the console back

You should be able to see the sides of the switches now. They may have a silver sticker covering the bulbs. Remove the sticker for access to the bulbs.

Use a flathead to turn the bulbs counterclockwise, use a pick to remove them.

Put the new bulbs in and turn them clockwise.

Put it all back together the same way it came apart

Do you have a part number for the bulbs or can I just pick one up from Walmart/etc?

nisreo 01-23-2009 01:15 PM

the bulbs have a plastic base on them, I dont think they are something you could get at wal-mart

Acura part numbers are:

green 35852-sep-a02
(2) orange 35853-sda-a01

nisreo 01-23-2009 01:15 PM

BTW, your dealer should do them under warranty if your under the 4 year 50K mark

1995hoo 01-25-2009 03:28 PM

Bulbs are a "wear item," so it's not surprising if a warranty claim is denied.

avs007 01-25-2009 03:42 PM


Originally Posted by 1995hoo (Post 10437244)
Bulbs are a "wear item," so it's not surprising if a warranty claim is denied.

Yeah, that's what happened to me... It just sucks, because I don't think these bulbs should be burning out so fast. My other car is 10 years old, and has almost triple the miles that our TL does, and yet non if it's interior lights have burned out *knocks on wood*

And it's not like the heated seats are on every second the car is on.... I'm also pretty sure it's the switch that's busted not the light, cuz when my light doesn't work, if I tap the switch a few times, the light turns on... The dealer is aware of this, but they still say it's a wear item. (Even tho they admitted that the switch is covered under warranty, but says that since the heated seat itself still works, the switch is ok).

Perhaps I should show him the schematic from the service manual that shows that the switch is a double-pole single throw, and that one of the throws is busted, which is why the light only works intermittently... I think it's a lost cause tho....

1995hoo 01-25-2009 03:46 PM


Originally Posted by avs007 (Post 10437283)
Yeah, that's what happened to me... It just sucks, because I don't think these bulbs should be burning out so fast. My other car is 10 years old, and has almost triple the miles that our TL does, and yet non if it's interior lights have burned out *knocks on wood*

....

I agree with this. The interior bulbs seem to be lacking in quality.

flappy188 03-12-2010 10:08 AM

my 07 with 28k heated seat switch light is burnt out also, what A CROCK OF SHIZIT

DMZ 03-13-2010 09:40 AM


Originally Posted by nisreo (Post 10425004)
Seat heater switch bulb replacement

Remove the two silver trim pieces that run the length of your center console (start where it meets the armrest.)

Open the armrest lid and at the bottom of the storage box, remove the rubber cover.

Remove the two screws

Remove the two screws holding the rear section of the console to the front

Pull the rear of the console back

You should be able to see the sides of the switches now. They may have a silver sticker covering the bulbs. Remove the sticker for access to the bulbs.

Use a flathead to turn the bulbs counterclockwise, use a pick to remove them.

Put the new bulbs in and turn them clockwise.

Put it all back together the same way it came apart

:pics:

nfnsquared 03-13-2010 10:08 AM


Originally Posted by DMZ (Post 11824601)
:pics:

link to rear console removal

You only need to do steps 2 through 5. It's easy and only takes about 10 minutes max. Use a butter knife with a rag around it to pop the silver trim off. You don't need to remove the trim completely if you don't want to, just pop it up in the console area.

Then the switch bodies will be exposed underneath the middle console. You don't need to disconnect the harness or remove the switch. You'll see a 1"x2" piece of silver tape. Pull it off. You will see 3 bulbs:

left for low indication (35853-SDA-A01) '04-'07
middle for illumination (35852-SEP-A02) '04-'07
right for high indication (35853-SDA-A01) '04-'07

Using a flat head screw driver, turn the affected bulb base counter clockwise about 1/3-1/2 turn. You might need a set of tweezers or small needle nose pliers to get the bulb out.

Link to pics of heater switches removed from console

Click here for part diagram, #19 and #20

whiteacura 11-20-2011 09:50 AM

http://www.flickr.com/photos/44063893@N03/6369776629/Here are some basic photos of the process. Did this last night. Takes about 15-20 min. When removing the silver trim on either side, I wrapped a butter knife in a blue shop towel. Worked perfectly. Just be gentle and take your time.

Here are the screws you need to remove. I may have missed one or two on the passenger side:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/44063893@N03/6369776951/

You also have to remove the two screws under the rubber mat in your arm rest compartment.

Pull and shimmy the center console towards the back seat.

Here is the switches. Just remove the silver tap and the bulbs are there. I think the bulb is only a few bucks at the Acura stealership.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/44063893@N03/6369776629/

Hope this helps.

07TL-S 06-01-2012 10:24 AM

Does anyone know the type of bulb required for the red Heat Seat logo?

obsessedmotors 06-01-2012 02:41 PM

Is there a way to change the amber light for the heated seats?

nfnsquared 06-01-2012 03:44 PM


Originally Posted by obsessedmotors (Post 13813297)
Is there a way to change the amber light for the heated seats?

Wow, doesn't anyone read anymore?





(Hint: post #33)

lcdgdlr 12-10-2016 12:57 AM

thanks
 
Hey guys, new to acurazine. Much appreciate the parts numbers, they are very specific to model.
for TL type-S 07-08
35852-SEP-A11 is for the center light which illuminates the seat icon lights #19 indiagram
35853-SEP-A11 is both side indication lights (on/off) high or low #20 in diagram
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