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Old 10-09-2013, 12:52 PM
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Spark plug change ????'s

alright gents, go easy on me as i am a noob

my 06 has 83,xxx on what i believe could be the original plugs. i pulled one today and it looked awful. i know she needs a tune up. what, besides plugs should i do?

also, how in the heck do i get to the plugs in the back? what is the best option (your advise)

thank you for your time and responses

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Old 10-09-2013, 03:25 PM
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go for NGK laser iridium
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^^^thx bro. That's what I'll get
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Please define 'awful' - got pics? Also, maybe it's just normal wear on the plugs based on 83,000 miles. More importantly, how does the car run...if it runs well, generally plugs aren't needed until 105K.

For the rears, take off the strut bar (3 nuts on each side) and they come out easily. Use an appropriate extension to remove the plugs (some use a combo 3" and 6" extension), use a little anti-seize on the threads (not near the tip of the plug), carefully finger tighten them (some recommend using fuel line tubing to finger tighten so you don't cross thread, and then tighten appropriately. Snug but not too tight- I think it's 13 ft-lbs, but maybe someone will chime in with the exact torque spec.
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post a pic. hard to believe they are "terrible" after only 83K. these plugs easily last 105K. My plugs still had the original gap when pulled at 106K...
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ok, well to me they look bad. there is rust colored streaking running up the porcelin and the electrode looks sorta fouled i guess. i have been having trouble with it hesitating and dropping rpms on hard pulls. i had her up to 5k rpms pulling hard in 3rd gear and it dropped to 3k, then up a lil, cut back to 2k, i lifted and rolled back in and it seemed fine. she has been starting harder lately so i dont know, maybe i jus "think" it needs tuned up? whats your thoughts???
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i always go with denso or ngk
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NGK Iridium is what's called for on the 3G TL;technically you shouldn't have to change them until around 105k. However,it also depends on the type of gas you have used thruout the life of the motor.
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Originally Posted by 06greatwhite
ok, well to me they look bad. there is rust colored streaking running up the porcelin and the electrode looks sorta fouled i guess. i have been having trouble with it hesitating and dropping rpms on hard pulls. i had her up to 5k rpms pulling hard in 3rd gear and it dropped to 3k, then up a lil, cut back to 2k, i lifted and rolled back in and it seemed fine. she has been starting harder lately so i dont know, maybe i jus "think" it needs tuned up? whats your thoughts???
A rust colored band at the base of the porcelain is normal. It's called the "corona". Here's a picture of my NGK's at 106.5K (excellent condition). Note the corona, perfectly normal:



Here's what I use for the back plugs. I use the heater hose to start the thread:


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^Nice pic!
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so with my issue, cutting out etc should i swap plugs or???

(always run 93 or 94 octane fuel...i run the car hard)
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May be a tranny issue.... Is it an A/T? No CEL/MIL? Take it to get the codes (if any) read.

Edit: Der... guess it's M/T. Clutch slipping?

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our heads are aluminum, please check all your plugs and make sure they are snug and tight!

They like to eject!
however, that wouldnt be the cause of your hesitation problem.

you're on the right track starting with combustion, tho.
Did it recently start doing this?
if so, maybe a bad batch of gas?

have you checked to see if the air filter is dirty?
which leads to checking the throttle body, then looking at the EGR valve.

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He made it seem like it was a 6 speed..

"i had her up to 5k rpms pulling hard in 3rd gear"

I hope it's not a tranny issue. Maybe the OP could be more descriptive other than just "cutting out" . Is it misfiring? CEL? Vibration while driving? Have you read on the ECU reset if you just feel it is sluggish? etc
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It's an AT. I was in sport mode as I typically ride her hard. I checked the air filter. It needs replaced but far from dirty. No codes no CEL. Gas was a 1/4 tank into a fill up so hard to think gas is the prob but who knows.

It just started this. As far as "cutting out" I don't know any other way of describing it. To be hard on the throttle and it jus drop 2 and 3k rpms without me letting off??? Hmmmm doesn't seem normal
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