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raffijian Dec 31, 2009 06:33 PM

Signs that power steering pump is going bad
 
05 6MT TL with 36k miles.

I've been hearing clicking noises when I turn so I believe that it is my cv joints, in which case I'll have the axle replaced.

Someone mentioned that it could also be from the power steering pump going bad.

I have no experience with ps pumps so if it were to go bad what would be the signs/sounds to look for?

Thanks everyone.

badteddy Dec 31, 2009 07:31 PM

i was told that our TL's have the worst designed steering pumps. mine is out and my mechanic is either waiting for someone to find him one or still searching for a used one. When i turn on the car for the first time after it cooling down it makes a whining noise. and when i turn the steering wheel it does it even louder. thats the steering pump. after a while of driving it goes away. but its annoying as hell.

dolfan13 Jan 1, 2010 08:23 AM

fixed mine with 5 min seal change.

johnny3 Jan 1, 2010 08:31 AM

Sounds like a air leak on the suction line to me, not a bad pump.

ABP_04TL Jan 1, 2010 10:55 AM

if u r gettin a whine check out the O-Ring, that sealer goes out most of the time, and its just like $1 at the stealership

shftl Jan 2, 2010 06:12 PM


Originally Posted by ABP_04TL (Post 11611789)
if u r gettin a whine check out the O-Ring, that sealer goes out most of the time, and its just like $1 at the stealership

:thumbsup:

If you're hearing clicking on turns it's almost certainly a CV joint, I'm sorry to say, and that's a potentially catastrophic failure situation you shouldn't ignore. Failing power steering pumps whine and your steering wheel gets jerky when you make low speed turns. As mentioned in this thread, with our cars p/s whining is most often a simple O-ring that even the dealership doesn't charge much to fix.

TlYungGun9 Jan 2, 2010 08:02 PM


Originally Posted by badteddy (Post 11611158)
i was told that our TL's have the worst designed steering pumps. mine is out and my mechanic is either waiting for someone to find him one or still searching for a used one. When i turn on the car for the first time after it cooling down it makes a whining noise. and when i turn the steering wheel it does it even louder. thats the steering pump. after a while of driving it goes away. but its annoying as hell.

This will fix your problem:thumbsup:
https://acurazine.com/forums/showthr...steering+whine

05BlkTL Jan 3, 2010 07:44 PM

Agreed Clicking sounds are almost always from the CV joint or joints going bad. You should replace the bad one(s) as soon as possible.

badteddy Jan 4, 2010 12:49 AM


Originally Posted by TlYungGun9 (Post 11614273)
This will fix your problem:thumbsup:
https://acurazine.com/forums/showthr...steering+whine

i am definitely trying that. thanks for the link!

Bender Jan 4, 2010 01:43 AM

It's strange that the pump would go out. I had a jeep for ten years that i beat the crap out of for 250k and never had to change the pump. Granted when i finally sold it it sounded like a semi when it was turning but still wasn't bad.

rsen1982 Jan 4, 2010 11:34 AM

2008 TL Steering Issue
 
Hello Everyone,

I am new to the community. I have 2008 TL which i am happy with so far except my steering wheel is so heavy usually when i am parking. Sometimes, it is impossible to turn the wheel. I have checked the power steering fluid, and it is full. It has only 63000 miles and this is not normal.

Anyone else has this issue or any suggesstions?

Thanks in Advance!

baws6o4 Jan 6, 2010 09:30 PM

Um isnt there a bulletin for power steering for 04-08 TL's the high pressure power steering hose leaking?

WdnUlik2no Jan 8, 2010 11:11 AM


Originally Posted by 05BlkTL (Post 11616078)
Agreed Clicking sounds are almost always from the CV joint or joints going bad. You should replace the bad one(s) as soon as possible.

I have had to have this repaired on two different occasions during my warranty period. Hopefully it doesn't happen again

brandon51481 Jan 9, 2010 12:05 PM

There is a recall for the power steering hose. Just make sure the dealer replaces the O-ring and seals. I have 50k miles on my 06 TL and the dealer originally quoted me $600 to replace the pump. I wasn't too happy and didn't think the pump could be bad after only 50k, I went home and started searching on here and saw the recall discussed. I went back and spoke to someone else and they said I had an extended warranty til 52k and they ended up replacing the pump for nothing! I plan on keeping my car for a long time and I'm wondering if the pump will fail in another 50k?? Anyone been through 2 PS pumps already?

GoldnKnight22 Jan 14, 2010 12:23 PM

About the CV Joints..... I hear clicking when I turn, but its only when I FIRST start the car when it's cold. After the first 1-2 turns, I never hear it again.

Is this still a CV joint issue?

Majofo Jan 14, 2010 10:22 PM

New year.. same question.


Clicking when it's cold (< 10F) = hardened CV joint grease
. If the clicking goes away when it's warm then there should be nothing to worry about. If the car is warmed up and driven several miles or if you hear the noise when the temps are moderate (> 40F) then it's probably a bad CV joint. A quick determination is full lock turns lurch forward & reverse at low speeds. If you hear it clicking.. get it replaced.

Whine when it's cold (< 60F) = Air leak in the PS Pump. You can make a quick determination by removing the cap from the PS res while the car is on and checking if small bubbles are surfacing. Make sure your car had the PS recall done before doing the DIY fix. If you replace the o-ring yourself, make sure the replacement o-ring is ORANGE.

>>>> DIY - Power Steering Whine Fix <<<<


subinf Jan 15, 2010 12:05 AM

I replaced the o-ring...didn't fix the whine. Oh well.

ross7778 Jan 29, 2010 07:48 AM


Originally Posted by Majofo (Post 11650126)
New year.. same question.


Clicking when it's cold (< 10F) = hardened CV joint grease
. If the clicking goes away when it's warm then there should be nothing to worry about. If the car is warmed up and driven several miles or if you hear the noise when the temps are moderate (> 40F) then it's probably a bad CV joint. A quick determination is full lock turns lurch forward & reverse at low speeds. If you hear it clicking.. get it replaced.

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This is what I'm getting. It's -6F right now. Hopefully it's because of the cold.

dmac65 Jan 31, 2010 12:29 PM

I also get the clicking sound from the cv joint only when it's cold. After a few turns the noise stops. It only does it on the driver side which leads me to believe this is not normal even under cold conditions. I'm thinking that the joint is just starting to go bad and that is why it only does it in the cold unless someone before me possibly resealed the boot and didn't put enough grease back in the joint. Ant comments are appreciated.

Majofo Feb 2, 2010 01:09 PM

I wouldn't worry about it dmac, wait til it warms up.. if it starts to click all the time when you make a turn, then you should concern yourself about replacing it.

ImagePree Feb 2, 2010 03:27 PM


Originally Posted by Majofo (Post 11650126)
New year.. same question.


Clicking when it's cold (< 10F) = hardened CV joint grease
. If the clicking goes away when it's warm then there should be nothing to worry about. If the car is warmed up and driven several miles or if you hear the noise when the temps are moderate (> 40F) then it's probably a bad CV joint. A quick determination is full lock turns lurch forward & reverse at low speeds. If you hear it clicking.. get it replaced.

Ya know, having owned a Honda for the previous 12 years and 200k+ miles, I've only heard clicking once and the CV joint has been replaced.

Never had I heard of this issue with hardened grease. Well, let's hope it is since my right side has been clicking a bit in the morning. Sigh.

Sutatami1110 Sep 24, 2011 07:08 PM

PS pump leaks after only 54000 miles and 3months after PS hose recall replacement.
 
I have 50k miles on my 06 TL and the dealer originally quoted me $600 to replace the pump. I wasn't too happy and didn't think the pump could be bad after only 50k, I went home and started searching on here and saw the recall discussed. I went back and spoke to someone else and they said I had an extended warranty til 52k and they ended up replacing the pump for nothing! I plan on keeping my car for a long time and I'm wondering if the pump will fail in another 50k?? Anyone been through 2 PS pumps already?

Wished I had done the same of searching answers here first before letting dealer changed my PS pump that they said was leaking. What I got suspicious is whether dealer fried my pump when replacing the PS hose per recall? Or this is just a really crappy pump? Now my PS rack is leaking and the left boot is wet although no leak onto the ground yet. Anyone has thoughts to share? Much appreciate it.

Sutatami1110 Sep 24, 2011 08:04 PM

Dealer said my pump leaks after only 54000 miles
 

Originally Posted by brandon51481 (Post 11633109)
There is a recall for the power steering hose. Just make sure the dealer replaces the O-ring and seals. I have 50k miles on my 06 TL and the dealer originally quoted me $600 to replace the pump. I wasn't too happy and didn't think the pump could be bad after only 50k, I went home and started searching on here and saw the recall discussed. I went back and spoke to someone else and they said I had an extended warranty til 52k and they ended up replacing the pump for nothing! I plan on keeping my car for a long time and I'm wondering if the pump will fail in another 50k?? Anyone been through 2 PS pumps already?


They ended up changing up a new pump and I had to pay for it. I think I was definitely ripped off.

msl77 Oct 4, 2022 09:28 PM

Would that whining sound come when accelerating only? It doesn’t make that sound when I turn the wheel at all. I have this whining noise when I accelerate


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