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Old 04-02-2007 | 11:12 PM
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Really weird squeaking

so during braking my TL starts to squeak, and it's not like a little bit, it is extremely loud, i'm not sure if it is coming from the front or back, beacuse I only get to hear it as i'm driving...

i took it to the dealer (btw i have a-spec AT brake pads)...and they couldn't figure out what was wrong....in the end they just replaced the A-spec pads with new a-spec pads...

it seemed to go away, but after like 3 weeks, it's back, and louder than ever....can someone please tell me what's up?

when i do hard braking like slamming the brakes..(not that i do often) there is no squeaking, but if i'm just easing up to the stoplight...god it sound like my car is wailing ....it's gotten so loud, i can even hear it through the music @ 20 if my sunroof is open.

please help me out, as the service center couldn't even figure out what was wrong.
Old 04-03-2007 | 12:41 AM
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Mines does that as well
Old 04-03-2007 | 12:29 PM
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dirt between the pad and rotors also check for some bad rotors. just some simple things.
Old 04-04-2007 | 06:10 AM
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thanks for the input

anyone else got any thoughts? and does anyone know what is the warranty situation on rotors? aka if they're warped or something is it gonna be a huge chunk out of my empty pockets?
Old 04-05-2007 | 06:17 AM
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Old 04-05-2007 | 10:51 AM
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Originally Posted by JCL622
...anyone else got any thoughts? and does anyone know what is the warranty situation on rotors? aka if they're warped or something is it gonna be a huge chunk out of my empty pockets?
From your initial description, it sounds like a case of brake pad glazing which can sometimes be corrected by machining the surface of the pads or by a heat-and-stop procedure described in these threads somewhere (do a search for following terms: brake pad glaz* stop). Otherwise, replacement of pads will cure a glazing problem.
Your steering wheel and the rotors would shake and vibrate to some degree if the rotors were warped. If the rotors are the problem, the dealership may cover rotors under warranty only in very limited circumstances (obvious defect unrelated to wear, very low mielage, good customer, etc.). Warped rotors can sometimes be repaired by turning (machining); other times they have to be replaced.
Old 04-06-2007 | 04:37 AM
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the first time i went, they saw all this red on my brakes and said they were glazed....resurfaced them, and now the squeaking is as loud as ever....should i be worried? since this is my everyday car, i really need to know before i end up taking it to acura to have it looked at for a warped rotor replacement/fix
Old 04-06-2007 | 01:19 PM
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Originally Posted by JCL622
the first time i went, they saw all this red on my brakes and said they were glazed....resurfaced them, and now the squeaking is as loud as ever....should i be worried? since this is my everyday car, i really need to know before i end up taking it to acura to have it looked at for a warped rotor replacement/fix
"Glazed" means that the pad surface got overheated, melted slightly and is an issue with the braking surface of the pad. As you noticed, gentle stops are more difficult with a glazed pad, but hard stops are OK. Sometimes resurfacing (grinding down the face of the pads) works, sometimes it doesn't.
Get dealer to change out the pads, then make sure to break in the new pads before doing any hard stops.
A glazed pad is different from a warped rotor, which is when the rotor (brake disc) surface develops unevenness. If you do not feel any unusual vibrations on braking, you likely don't have a warped rotor.
Old 04-06-2007 | 01:31 PM
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When replacing pads in this situation, I would go with the advice that comes in the box of HAWK HPS brake pads.

It says- If not maching rotors when replacing pads, MUST CLEAN rotors of residue of old pads with 150 -thats right 150- grit sandpaper, then soap and water wash and rinse.

Glazing and surface contamination happen to more than just the pads

Depending on car year and milage, many have gotten warranty rotors-
Old 04-06-2007 | 03:11 PM
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Originally Posted by 01tl4tl
It says- If not maching rotors when replacing pads, MUST CLEAN rotors of residue of old pads with 150 -thats right 150- grit sandpaper, then soap and water wash and rinse.
That's right!
JCL22- I forgot about that. The dealership probably did not machine/turn or clean off your rotors when it put on the replacement A-spec pads, so the old pad residue on the rotors caused glazing on the new pads.
Mention this possibility to the service writer AND the tech when you visit the dealer.
Old 04-07-2007 | 11:32 PM
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wow, thanks so much ~ i wish i knew this earlier!! i'll give it a shot at the Dealer in a week or so
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