Ryan Jimenez

Hello y'all,

Okay so happy forth to everyone and to everyone having as good as a forth as I. Not, my 04 tl broke down today and i'm not too sure what the issue could be. Im hoping its a cv issue but not sure. So to sum it up, my TL will not accelerate when in gear. When I put it in gear I get no acceleration and hear a HUGE grinding noise coming from the passenger side... thinking its by the tire. would trans issue cause such a grinding noise? It's kind of like using the disposable in the kitchen sink and your trying to grind something tough that doesn't want to be chopped up. I don't know if a brake issue can cause no acceleration but any help will be appreciated. i'll be taking some videos tomorrow. thanks for the help!

thoiboi

Axles?

nfnsquared

Probably a snapped axle. The "garbage disposal" sound you hear is probably the loose end of the axle whipping around and beating on who knows what when you step on the gas pedal. It's pretty easy DIY assuming there's no other damage. Lots of threads on the different type axle available (OEM, aftermarket, Raxle).

Ryan Jimenez

Okay, cool that was I was hoping to hear if it was going to be anything. Does anyone have a link to a DIY for axle replacement? probably go aftermarket if anything. was quoted around 200 per axle for Raxle axles

horseshoez

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The OEM axles for the 6MT are, oddly enough, less expensive than those for the automatic; check out one of the online Acura parts stores.

rockstar143

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I'd go OEM.
I bought raxles last time and was told there's no difference other than better boots and grease.

Ryan Jimenez

Yeah will go oem. I don't feel like paying 219 per axel plus having to send my worn axles to raxles. Has anyone tried out the duralast axles from autozone? They're under 100$ and thinking this would be good for a DIY on a budget..

Ryan Jimenez

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here is the vid. You can here me accelerating then the grind. Couldn't even make it an inch from the curb.

rockstar143

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don't fuck with anything but oem.

nfnsquared

The Duralast don't have the harmonic donut but they seem to have mostly decent reviews.

Turbonut

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Probably left axle.
If you want to save money, take a look at Rock Auto for aftermarket units that also have Lifetime Warranty $43.

Ryan Jimenez

okay so left as in sitting in the driver seat or facing the vehicle from the outside?

Ryan Jimenez

Harmonic donut?

horseshoez

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A collar around a portion of the axle which attenuates natural harmonics; very important for axle longevity.

Turbonut

iTrader: (1)

It's a damper, nothing to do with balancing.

Ryan Jimenez

explain?

horseshoez

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Virtually all mechanical structures have a natural point where they will begin to resonate; if the axle in this case gets to that point without the aforementioned "harmonic donut", the resonance can cause the axle to fail without warning.

rockstar143

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so then all axles have that damper then to ensure no catastrophic failure?

horseshoez

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No, most likely not. Why? Because not all designs in all applications will resonate within the normal operating range of the vehicle. That the 6MT axles from Honda come with a damper indicates their engineers believe destructive resonance is likely somewhere within the expected usage range of these vehicles.

rockstar143

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Yep...
I was just making a point about the quality of the aftermarket ones that usually don't have it.
Raxles won't even take cores that aren't OEM to build their super axles.

I'd keep it simple and pay for labor (or do it once for yourself) by putting in the oem part that'll last.

horseshoez

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Ahhh, got it. Couldn't agree more.

Turbonut

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horseshoez

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Yup, different items, but a similar causality and a similar result.

Ryan Jimenez

Thanks for all the info everyone. So regarding fixing.. based on the edit is this a full axle replacement?

Turbonut

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Depending on which side? One might say they are full axles, half shaft assemblies, the left, driver's side, the half shaft will run from trans to hub, but right, passenger side, the half shaft will be from the hub to the bearing support, but will not include the intermediate shaft, trans to bearing support. The intermediate shaft/bearing is usually not a problem and not needed to be replaced.

Ryan Jimenez

So I'm getting the tl towed rn but have one last question... I started up my car and put it into 1st, then without accelerating the clicking/cluncking sound started right away.. could this be a trans issue?

Ryan Jimenez

Thanks everyone for yalls help!

horseshoez

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Based upon everything you've posted, the odds are very-VERY high this is an issue with an axle. No need to complicate the diagnosis until a professional gets his or her eyes on the situation.

youraway

I think the harmonic balancer reduces vibration just as they do for motors and drive shafts. I like to stay with OEM parts, if I can afford them.

Any updates?