New TL-S Owner looking for some guidance.
New TL-S Owner looking for some guidance.
Greetings everybody,
So last week I got a 2008 Type S
with 110k miles on it. It came from a very reputable dealer, and out of being so excited after test driving the car I realize I completely forgot to ask about service records.
I looked up the VIN, got jack shit except that it got 3 "Recalls" done but its been serviced religiously since 2014. Tried to call the place that serviced it, barely spoke English so I eventually just gave up.
SO WHAT I AM ASKING, is how can I tell if the water pump has been replaced? This is what I am scared about because I know if the timing belt / water pump goes so does the entire engine. The timing belt is brand new, I even see the white paint marks on the pulley but I have zero clue where to check for the water pump. I tried looking this up already on the forums as much as possible but I need something visual.
I am not very familiar with cars, but I really want to know this one inside out, so if I could get any help without completely being roasted that'd be great,
Thanks guys! (and if this is posted in the wrong place I'm sorry).
So last week I got a 2008 Type S
with 110k miles on it. It came from a very reputable dealer, and out of being so excited after test driving the car I realize I completely forgot to ask about service records.I looked up the VIN, got jack shit except that it got 3 "Recalls" done but its been serviced religiously since 2014. Tried to call the place that serviced it, barely spoke English so I eventually just gave up.
SO WHAT I AM ASKING, is how can I tell if the water pump has been replaced? This is what I am scared about because I know if the timing belt / water pump goes so does the entire engine. The timing belt is brand new, I even see the white paint marks on the pulley but I have zero clue where to check for the water pump. I tried looking this up already on the forums as much as possible but I need something visual.
I am not very familiar with cars, but I really want to know this one inside out, so if I could get any help without completely being roasted that'd be great,
Thanks guys! (and if this is posted in the wrong place I'm sorry).
1) Get a buddy or translator who can talk to the shop to see if they did the timing belt/water pump/tensioners, etc.
2) Run the VIN through the Acura dealer to see if any major service shows.
3) Check for signs of moisture at the water pumps weep hole, which may tell you it's about to go bad. Otherwise, it's almost impossible to tell if the TB has been changed. OTOH, I haven't heard of any that broke in less than 200K miles.
Welcome to AZ.
Oh, and I'll bring marshmallows if you get roasted.
2) Run the VIN through the Acura dealer to see if any major service shows.
3) Check for signs of moisture at the water pumps weep hole, which may tell you it's about to go bad. Otherwise, it's almost impossible to tell if the TB has been changed. OTOH, I haven't heard of any that broke in less than 200K miles.

Welcome to AZ.
Oh, and I'll bring marshmallows if you get roasted.
There are numerous ways you can tell if water pump / timing belt have been previously replaced or not. The question of when it has been replaced is another story. No way to tell just by visually inspecting.
It doesn't take much time to inspect with a trained eye and removal of the front timing cover. You can have a dealer check it and they will be able to tell right away if it has been done or not. You may have to pay a small inspection fee as no one works for free but it may be worth it given your situation.
You can compare the surface of the cast aluminum on the right side mount bracket and the top of the water pump. The two are fastened together and sit flush against each other. If the color on both surfaces match and look identical then it is unlikely the water pump has been replaced.
If the top of water pump surface color looks newer or the side bracket surface a bit discolored in comparison with one another then this gives us a reason to believe that the water pump has been replaced.
Next is to visually inspect the timing cover 10mm fastener heads for any witness marks from tool impact. Once an untouched bolt head from factory has been loosened it will leave tiny witness marks. This will give you an idea if the covers have been removed in the past. If the threaded fasteners haven't been touched then your water pump and timing belt are original.
Once you access the timing belt, pay close attention to the labels on the backside of the timing belt for part numbers/barcodes/manufacturer stamps. With your mileage the label markings should be completely faded by now as the label side of the belt has been contacting the water pump, idler and tensioner pulleys causing them to wear off. If the label markings look fresh/clearly visible, yes the timing belt has been done.
Again I must mention that there is no way of telling exactly when it was replaced unless you get a hold of the service history documents. Good luck.
It doesn't take much time to inspect with a trained eye and removal of the front timing cover. You can have a dealer check it and they will be able to tell right away if it has been done or not. You may have to pay a small inspection fee as no one works for free but it may be worth it given your situation.
You can compare the surface of the cast aluminum on the right side mount bracket and the top of the water pump. The two are fastened together and sit flush against each other. If the color on both surfaces match and look identical then it is unlikely the water pump has been replaced.
If the top of water pump surface color looks newer or the side bracket surface a bit discolored in comparison with one another then this gives us a reason to believe that the water pump has been replaced.
Next is to visually inspect the timing cover 10mm fastener heads for any witness marks from tool impact. Once an untouched bolt head from factory has been loosened it will leave tiny witness marks. This will give you an idea if the covers have been removed in the past. If the threaded fasteners haven't been touched then your water pump and timing belt are original.
Once you access the timing belt, pay close attention to the labels on the backside of the timing belt for part numbers/barcodes/manufacturer stamps. With your mileage the label markings should be completely faded by now as the label side of the belt has been contacting the water pump, idler and tensioner pulleys causing them to wear off. If the label markings look fresh/clearly visible, yes the timing belt has been done.
Again I must mention that there is no way of telling exactly when it was replaced unless you get a hold of the service history documents. Good luck.


