JustinZ

Sooo, I was jacking up my car and didn't have the usual 2x4 that I use under the jack - so I grabbed 2 sample pieces of hardwood flooring instead and stacked them on top of each other.

Half way through jacking up the car -- BOOM

The jack slips and coolant starts leaking out.

The 2 pieces of sample hard wood flooring slipped against each other and the jack shifted so it was sitting under the radiator...

This is the aftermath....






The rad being pushed up messed up these mounting holes too... I think I can bend these back...



So - I'll need to replace:
- the radiator,
- the hood (it bent up when the rad was pushed up)
- the piece of metal the rad was resting on took the most damage (pic 2 & 3)

So, is this piece replaceable? Can i fix it myself?



Is it time to start looking for a New type S?
Thanks for the help -- feeling like shit right now

guitarplayer16

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Big problem after jacking up my car!! - AcuraZine Community

https://acurazine.com/forums/tires-w.../#post13351839

usdmJON

Ill nevrr understand why people add wood on the jack..
Jacks are built to lift your car as is. If a block of wood was meant to be involved they'd sell you a piece of wood.
Any extra piece between the jack and car is seriously asking for trouble.
Two pieces even worse.

Again. Sorry about the loss and damages. Lesson learned.

paperboy42190

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^+1

I dont use a piece of wood, it does more harm than good. Not sure why anyone thinks this method is acceptable.

But as for what you can do now, pretty much just the things that you listed and maybe the condenser(replacing condenser would require recharging the AC), it'll be a couple hundred bucks if you DIY, but it'll also be a good lesson learned.

This reminds me of justnspace btw lol

justnspace

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i did the same.

my jack slipped and I punched a hole in the radiator.

if that's coolant leaking, you indeed punched a hole into the radiator, and will have to replace the radiator.

i found my radiator from a junk yard for 100 bucks.
also, rockauto sells brand new OEM denso radiators for 100 bucks.

Do not go to the stealership unless you want to get stolen from.
radiators are like 350 from stealer


In the link that guitar player provided, you can see where my jack hit the radiator support.
it looks like your support is fucked too.

you're gonna have to hammer down that support so that you can flushly sit the radiator in.

justnspace

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and hey what a coincidence!!!!!!!

your name is justin too!!!!!!!


now we can be Just on jacks together!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Jackass

I do use a small block when lifting from the side. Otherwise my jack would be too short....yeah I know buy a nicer jack...I don't work on my own car much anymore and my old jack has gotten me by for the past 20 years so far.

I use a small 2x4 that has indented perfectly to the head of the jack and is usually jammed into the pinch weld on the side of the car not slipping anywhere.......yet. I have never jacked my car up by the front support beam and do not intend to ever. I normally use the side points and just do each side to put the jack stands under.

JustinZ

Nice, Ill pick one up from Rock Auto

Is that support beam replaceable?

Even if I hammer it down so the rad sits ok, the beam itself is crushed so the plastic aero pieces on the bottom wont line up

I was thinking of checking out a junkyard for the piece, but I'm not sure if its even removable with bolts or welded to the car

JustinZ

Yeah, I'm new to working on my car
Definitely not my proudest moment

An expensive lesson

justnspace

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^if you read my thread, i was embarrassed to tell what had happened.
but, in the end its a learning process.



my support beam was bowed up a little to where I could hammer it back down.
if yours isnt playing nice, then yes it is replaceable.

1black_seven

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I think that's a base.

But in any case your car is fully recoverable, it's not as terrible as it could be and will be back to normal soon.
Good advice has already been meted out by justnspace.

guitarplayer16

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Also, next time you jack up your car (using center point), open the hood.

Less damage if anything happens again.

JustinZ

So looks like this is the part I'll need to replace:


04603-sep-02zz
Crossmember Set, Fr. Bulkhead (Lower)


List Price: $187
Acura online store : 2007 tl front bulkhead - dashboard parts

justnspace

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Looks like you know what you're doing!

guitarplayer16

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If you're buying from the dealer in Canada, good luck on getting that price lol

That's the right part though

paperboy42190

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that makes sense. the side ones are pretty hard to slip because it's sitting on a fairly thin metal protrusion. Thin = less surface area = more pressure in 1 spot. The same can't be said for the front jacking point

He's saying in case his car is too damaged so if he should be looking for another car.

JustinZ

Soo

I finally got around to taking the bumper off

The Ac condenser will need to be replaced too

I'm about to buy the new rad support
found it on amazon amazingly enough:

So 2 questions:


1.
Now, I've been reading and it seems some older Honda's have these parts spot welded on... I wasn't able to find any info on newer accord/ TLs ... so does anybody know if I'll be able to remove and replace it just just bolts alone?
...or am I going to have to drill out spot welds (if so.... I think Ill just hammer it back into place

2.
Also, my part is painted body colour, does this new part need to be painted as well (to avoid rust ..etc.. nobody is going to see it )

JustinZ

Turbonut

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Never had one apart, but I would think it to be spot welded. As you have the bumper removed and part exposed, you should be able to determine the method. As far as painting, if it can't be seen from outside with the bumper on, I wouldn't have it painted.

Take a look on Car-Part.com--Used Auto Parts Market as yards have radiator, condenser, radiator support, and whatever else that might be needed.

guitarplayer16

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Mine is welded on.

I think my car was in a collision and they just welded it on, not sure if stock.

TacoBello

Yeah it's definitely welded on. In the parts diagram the OP posted, you would be able to see available bolts to buy to put it back together. The diagram shows no bolts, so it definitely is welded.

Additionally, by being welded, the connection points are "firmer" as opposed to bolted connections. It adds structural integrity and rigidity to the car by doing so.

triax37

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Thank you both for sharing. I'm also new to working on cars, and have learned tons from posts about the "wrong way," and am very indebted to all of those who have tried/failed/succeeded before me (and shared their experiences).

BC2G

But thank god you didnt pay with life and limb! Glad you are okay.

Jacking up the car and getting under a motor vehicle is dangerous work, dont fool your self about that and always practice the safest techniques. I would research safe jacking techniques on youtube and the internet.

No more using a wood block between the jack and the weight of the vehicle... the only time you would want to use a wood block is if you are lifting/supporting the motor to remove headers/etc.

Good news is the radiator is relatively easy to change!!

erg69

+1 ^^ I was surprised no one asked if he was under it when it fell. Glad it didn't fall on you or a friend, its difficult to weld a head back together....