Gates water pump and timing belt kit question, what is this shim for?

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Old 04-25-2019, 02:16 PM
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Gates water pump and timing belt kit question, what is this shim for?

I ordered and installed the gates kit already. It had a shim in the kit. What is it for? A different car?
Pic below shows it on the left. I has the word out stamped on the tab.
The kit is making some noise and sounds like it could be a bad hydraulic tensioner. Everything else sounds fine with a stethoscope tool.

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Shim has been mentioned before and associated with reducing your mentioned noise. See the threads above.
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I was telling you to stay away from aftermarket tensionining components but you said Gates kit is fine in the other thread Somebody did homework and experimented then concluded that is the issue on a Honda Odyssey. But you can do what you want to your car.

The shim is for the idler pulley to space away the pulley because it causes a chirping sound with the timing belt.
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After reading about 20 threads that were pretty long it sounds like the shim is to get rid of a chirping sound. My belt doesnt chirp, it sounds like a rattling coming from the tensioner area. With the stethoscope I can here a clicking when its directly on the tensioner.

I cant find no clear answer what year, or reason from acura why the shim is needed. I dont want to add it if I dont have to.
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The idler pulley shim is needed for TSB 08-031 - Chirp From the Timing Belt Area.

http://www.urvi.net/forumfiles/SB/B08-031.PDF
http://techinfo.honda.com/rjanisis/pubs/SB/B08-031.PDF
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The rattling sound you hear is a shoddy aftermarket hydraulic tensioner not keeping tension on the tensioner pulley, causing it to bounce. READ the thread I posted, the guy even posted a video showing the problem.

https://www.odyclub.com/forums/52-20...placement.html
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Originally Posted by t-rd
The rattling sound you hear is a shoddy aftermarket hydraulic tensioner not keeping tension on the tensioner pulley, causing it to bounce. READ the thread I posted, the guy even posted a video showing the problem.

https://www.odyclub.com/forums/52-20...placement.html
Hmmm I dunno, mine sort of sounds like his AFTER video. Maybe im just paranoid. I took the rear timing cover off and dont see anything strange while the belts moving, but even if the tensioner is just a little weak I dont think you could see it from above. On the TL there isnt that much room to get a look at it like on the odyssey.
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Lucky you, my aisin kit did not have a shim. And I have a #%@$^&* chirp now.
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The chirp I have comes and goes, anyone ever hear of it catastrophically failing? If I go and change any of the accessories I might dig in and add a shim but that's alot of work for something that as far as I know does no harm
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Originally Posted by NitroViper
Hmmm I dunno, mine sort of sounds like his AFTER video. Maybe im just paranoid. I took the rear timing cover off and dont see anything strange while the belts moving, but even if the tensioner is just a little weak I dont think you could see it from above. On the TL there isnt that much room to get a look at it like on the odyssey.
It's not access space related. The guy took the video with the lower timing belt cover off to prove that the OEM tensioning components fixed the issue. How about you take a video and put it up then we can decide what the issue is instead of us guessing the problem.
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