Bearcat94

2007 TL Type-S, ~75,000 miles. Good Maint. Mods here: https://acurazine.com/forums/garage/...Bearcat94.html


Went to start the car this morning and it made 'squeak' from the engine area (I thought it was the belt) and would not start. I have had some minor, (more-or-less) normal belt squeak from the drive belt in colder weather .... that has been on and off for ~4 or 5 years since adding the lightweight pulley, so I don't think what I heard was quite the same as that. This was a sharper, abrupt squeak when the engine first started to turnover .... after than, it was just the starter cranking.

Battery seems OK .... plenty of power. Starter is working/cranking.

Acts like it wants to start, but isn't getting gas .... seems like the engine is not turning over. After ~3 tries, there was an acrid, kind-of metallic burning smell. I'm guessing this something from the starter getting hot.

Car was started and ran yesterday breifly with no issues. It was a bit cold this morning, but not unusually so.

Have not really looked closely at it yet. Any ideas/suggestions as to what to look for?

Bearcat94

Ok, the engine IS turning via the starter and belts look OK. But it seems like it's not getting fuel to catch.

Fuel pump??

Other ideas?

justnspace

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hmmm...

perplexing.
if its not battery, starter or alternator, its gotta be either fuel or spark.
we have at least 5 culprits, lets see if we can narrow it down even more

Bearcat94

Makes sense to me, Crabman.

What are your '5 culprits'?

BTW, if it's spark, it has to be something that effects all 6 coils. I'm leaning toward fuel.

Houston

Well, like you said..... if it's spark, it would have to be something affecting all 6 and your plugs might be wet from the cranking and no spark. If it's fuel, I would check for a clogged fuel filter first before messing with the fuel pump. Also, you should check your timing belt...

Bearcat94

I'm gonna have it towed to the dealer. Don't have time to troublehsoot and/or work on the car.

3.2TLc

Hey Bear, if you're sure that the electrical stuff is good, then perhaps the fuel pump's relay is bad ?
Is your battery the original ? Can ya hear the fuel pump when ya turn the key on ?

flint

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I had the fuel pump relay fail on my CL which caused the same issues. I have heard it is somewhat common. The honda tech called out the issue immediately before even diagnosing the car. Brought out a relay and bam car started right up.

Bearcat94

I'm on my third battery. I think this one has been in a year or so .... electrics seem good though.

Not sure if I hear the fuel pump or not. Maybe it'll be something that quick/simple.

3.2TLc

Man, your car is eating batterys !
If ya don't have anything really "big" putting an extra drain on them, then ya must have a scavenger leak somewhere.
Next time, buy the most powerful battery with the best warranty, as you'll need it down the road ..... going by the present trend.

gatrhumpy

iTrader: (1)

Test the voltage of the battery. I had the same problem two nights ago, and I could not even get three other cars to jump start my car. I finally called AAA and they had a battery pack, and came and jumped the car immediately. So I went to Autozone and got the biggest battery jump started I could find. The lowest voltage of the battery should be no more than about 10-11 volts. Anything less, and something is eating away at that power.

Bearcat94

Every one has been the stock Acura battery and been replaced free under warranty. If you read the history, it's par for the course; these things last about 2 years.


And, now, I'm on battery #4. Another Acura stock battery .... for free.

3.2TLc

Hey Bear, while I'm not really familiar with the 3rd Gen's appetite for eating batterys every two years....it's good to know that Acura is handing them out like candy at Halloween's trick or treat nite. Personally, IMO there's a problem that's not being addressed and low voltage can create havoc within the entire car.

Hopefully, the dealership won't rape ya too bad.....as they probably want to see ya buy a new TLX when they are available. Keep the candy coming in the meantime !!!

Bearcat94

I'm good .... big, fat $0 bill.

Hendrick Acura Service is fantastic as far as I'm concerned.


I'd buy a 'good' new battery, but I keep getting them for free .... it's hard to beat free.

bluetl04

iTrader: (4)

The fuel filter is located inside the fuel pump which is in the gas tank. It does suck saying that but changing out the fuel pump is not that bad

bluetl04

iTrader: (4)

@ bearcat94, I had that same problem and it did turn out to be the fuel pump. If you don't hear a humming or buzzing sound coming from the rear of the car when you turn the ignition to acc, then that might be your problem. Keep us updated though...good luck