pohljm

Hmnnnn. tranny replaced under warranty at 69K miles. been 2K miles now and so it has exhibited some strange behavior on 2 occasions.

Bout three weeks ago at the first stop sign after an overnight cold start it seemingly went into neutral for a moment and reved freely then dropped back down and engaged and then proceeded to operate fine. There is no jerk when it engages it is very smooth. I initially thought just a glitch, no check engine light, no flashing D, nothin. Then this morning at the second stop sign after an overnight cold start same thing but this time I was looking at the guages and sure enough smooth as butter it revs to 1600 or so then drops back down and slips back into drive and I am on my way.............This time for sure no flashing D, nothin lit up.

I wanted this on record so I went to the dealer and dropped it off for them to check out. I told them it only has happened twice 3 weeks in the two months since it was replaced and there was no way it was gonna do it for the tech. Got in a TSX loaner and got outta there. End of the day.......Sure enough there are no stored codes, couldnt replicate. Its on file now and thats what I wanted.

The pressure switches are new.

rkan121

I feel your pain, my 06 TL just started acting odd. Slipping when downshifting on a roll ( 5-30 mph). Now its slightly slipping here and there at low speeds. I'm currently @ 68k miles, I also just bought the car in FEB @ 64 k miles. I also just put new switches and Z1 fluid last week ( april 2nd) . The delaer I bought from said I had a 70 k miles powertain warrenty , I hope the acura dealer can help me

pohljm

Update. Tranny started to act up more frequently. Free revs while in D on first stop and go after a cold start. Suprise........dealer was able to replicate the behavior. Outcome....another tranny ordered for replacement. This last one only made it 4K miles! At 72,336 right now. All work under warranty. Lets hope this last one is more durable.

Willie3.5

Sorry to hear Pohljm, I'm assuming that you have a automatic. I'm thinking of snatching up a 3G soon, I'm going with a manual so hopefully I don't encounter these same problems. Good thing is that you were under warranty which is superb lets just hope this new tranny last forever.

chayos00

I wonder if the new 2012 TL's new tranny will have the same shitty life span as our 3G ones do.

pohljm

Another update. Acura evidently did not take the techs word for it and required them to record a snapshot of the transmission acting up. It took them two tries, but on the second day it did the slipped into neutral type thing and they were able to record it. They sent it to Acura for them to review and they agreed that a new transmission is in order. So supposedly I will be getting my car back on Tuesday with a new transmission. Get me outta this TSX lol. Hopefully this one will last more than 4K miles!

coykiam

I feel you on the TSX, they gave me a 2010 TSX as a loaner but its so slow and cramped. My 3G is currently at the dealer for a timing belt problem at 50K miles! It has been almost a month now...hopefully my 3G won't have any tranny problems till when its over 100k. Hope your dealer won't give you any hard time.

pohljm

The dealer is taking care of everything. The TSX is a fine loaner it just isnt my TL. Seems like an awfully long time to repair a timing belt issue?

TLTrance

Acura knows full and well that the trannies will give out at around 105K or later. My suspicion is that they are well prepared to tell you to spend up to $5000 on it. Of course, they are more than willing to sell you a replacement for the entire car as well..

Sorry for the pessimistic post... Pohljm, I'm just pissed at having what appears to be the same problem as you.. Except I'm at 106K miles, just 1000+ miles after the 105K warranty expiration.. F-to-the-U-C-K!!

coykiam

Stealership SA is being a hard ass, I dont want to hijack your thread but if you want to know I have a thread here in the Problems section. Yeah the TSX just isnt like the 3G...I really miss mine, can't wait to be reunited with her again!

What 105K miles warranty do you speak of? I thought our powertrain is at 6yrs/70K and the 105K is maintenance schedule, not warranty...unless you bought an extended one? am i right?

TLTrance

Yes, I did purchase an extended warranty when I first purchased the car in March 2005. It was 7yr/100K, but due to a class action lawsuit over inaccurate odometers, Honda agreed to settle the claim by extending warranties by 5% of the miles covered.

paperboy42190

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dude how did u get the dealer to replace your tranny at 69k miles?! im at 83k miles and they refuse to do any warranty work on my car. my tranny is slipping from 2-3 and has a sloppy 1-2 shift. however under WOT all the shifts(including 1-2, and 2-3) are fine.

pohljm

^ drivetrain warranty until 70K. thats also extended to 72500 from lawsuit.

coykiam

Actually it's 73,500 miles according to TSB B06-050.

justnspace

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Gman, maybe they read your stories in the racing and competition subforum....

pohljm

Good find!

paperboy42190

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i feel that i still take very good care of my car compared to a lot of people. yes i floor it every now and then but it still shouldnt be having major transmission issues so early

coykiam

You'd be surprised that it still can happen to cars in general even if you don't "drive it like you stole it."

TheChamp531

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3/4th gear seniors plus NO FM ATF like Redline Racing will save your tranny.

pohljm

Update! Got car back today. New transmission is very quick and very smooth shifting. noticeably different from the first two that I have had. The only difference is this new one is filled with the DW-1 fluid. Shifts are almost imperceptible at times, Manual mode is good. Same as before this tranny came with new pressure switches.

Also discovered one motor mount was bad and replaced that under warranty as well

dealer service was excellent at 72K miles just as it was AGAIN at 69K. 12 month 12K warranty starts again on tranny.

TheChamp531

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Good to hear. How do you know they switched sensors?

pohljm

I have asked the tech each time if they swapped or were new and also what ATF they filled it with.

usmarinedelta

iTrader: (1)

This goes against what everyone says on these forums but maybe you should try leaving the dw-1 fluid in there to see if there's any difference if you switched to redline, if you didn't then disregard this post lol.

csmeance

I have the DW-1 fluid and I plan on sending it in to get analyzed @ around 15K miles and as well getting a bottle of new fluid and getting it analyzed to see the before and after comparison of the two with viscosity, metal wear, etc to see if it really is an improvement over Z-1.

pohljm

well i can say that on this last transmission it exhibited the same issues on both the z-1 and redline racing. I changed out the z-1 after about 1K miles. the racing was noticably notchier feeling on shifts. I really like the way the DW-1 feels obviously it must have alot of FM. not really sure how I feel about going with the type F again.

I look forward to your fluid analysis. I am hoping that the DW-1 looks good because it seems to be working well for shift quality. I would be up for doing an analysis as well if that would benefit the community.

meowevil

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please keep us update of the result

pohljm

Just realized that the Hands Free Link is no longer working! WTF? no sounds when i press steering wheel buttons.............hmnnnnnn

FollowingNFront

Aren't you running Redline Type F? And even while running that, your trans started slipping?

pohljm

Ran the redline F for about 1.5K. before tranny died. shifts were notchy but went to that to reduce wear on clutchpacks since original tranny died at 69K. Not sure if slipping is correct it more like slipped completely into neutral and would free rev on the first stop after a cold start. eventually would have to shift gear selector to have it engage. I really think it was an internal problem and not a fluid issue. who knows for sure.

FollowingNFront

You were using Type F too? I was really asking Paperboy42190 if his trans started slipping while using the Redline Type F... But you're using it too and your trans went... That is interesting to me.

I'm using Redline Type F too, and while I am not saying I think it caused your trans to fail, I'm just taking note that it is supposed to help prevent failure... And both of your tranny's (you and Paperboy) still started slipping.

TLTrance

I'd imagine pohljm's tranny failure was bound to happen, regardless of the use of the Type F fluid. 1.5K miles before failure pretty much means the thing was shot already, beyond the point of no return.

pohljm

^^ I agree I do not think the failure was due to the fluid.

Another update.... tranny is working beautiful, but for some reason the HFL was no longer working/working intermittently. I brought car back to dealer this morning and they diagnosed bad HFL module. although they did not touch this device during the trans replacement they contacted Acura and Acura has agreed to replace the HFL module at no cost to me even though its way out of warranty. Car is now ready for pick up with new HFL module! Service has been beyond excellent at this time.

TLTrance

My HFL/bluetooth module also went kaputz and I've probably used it only 5 times in the entire 100K miles. Good thing I discovered the problem before the warranty was done. Out of pocket cost would have been close to $700!

pohljm

^ holy crap! now i am ecstatic that they goodwilled the module. I was happy before but not $700 dollars happy! wooooohoooo

usmarinedelta

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While I was driving today I was thinking these notchy shifts and small lunges were rather annoying and kept thinking, yes maybe redline shifts faster and more harder to reduce wear but perhaps that vibration felt in the car is alot harsher on the tranny causing it to fail? Maybe the dw-1 fluid will resolve this? I know it's more wear and tear but maybe it's not a sudden "thump" or shock to the trans??

chayos00

Except for your 1-2 shift issue, my tranny did the same 2-3 flare when Acura replaced my tranny. I also had the Redline Type F in my tranny at the time too. Happened about 4-5K after the change over.

chayos00

I worried that the fluid choice helped my tranny fail as well, which is why I went with D4 in my tranny after they replaced it. In fact I just did my 3rd D4 D&F today. I have about 1.6K on this new tranny and feels good with the D4 no, Type F hard shifting anymore.

I'm doing a slow change over on this tranny, 1 to flush more of the debris out from break in and 2 give it a slow change over to maybe help the tranny not fail on me. IDK if it makes a difference but makes me feel better.

chayos00

Good theory, who know's could be a factor. I sure felt the "harder" shifts, plus it got annoying when I would feel the torque converter lock and unlock as I drove.