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2007 acura tl type s timing belt replacement

07 tl type s with 104km just purchased, timing belt service was not done yet. Acura wants $950 for just the belt, tensioner, and about 4 hours of labour with value inspection and water pump inspection. They mentioned I shouldn't replace the water pump, they said it usually never needs to be replaced what's are your thoughts about this?
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A few comments in no particular order:
  • A Timing Belt service from an Acura Dealer for $950 is a pretty good price, however...
  • The water pump, while there is a good chance it will last until the second timing belt service, is a cheap replacement while the belt is off, where as replacing it before the next timing belt service interval is rather expensive.
  • I've never been a fan of a "valve inspection"; per your Owner's Manual, if the valves aren't noisy, don't bother, however, if they are noisy, have them adjusted (nearly the same effort as inspecting).
  • I've had two J-Series engines and have worked on a number of others; they almost always start leaking from the cam seals before the second timing belt is due at 210,000 miles, I always recommend replacing those seals when doing the timing belt; ditto the front crank seal.
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Ya that's what I was worried about dont want to pay all over for labour if something is wrong in a year or more. Maybe I can save some money of a can buy the part with the water pump and do you know of any kits with all seals and everything needed that fits a 2007 acura tl type s.
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300K miles on my J32 and cam seals are fine..never been replaced.
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Ya that's what I was worried about dont want to pay all over for labour if something is wrong in a year or more. Maybe I can save some money of a can buy the part with the water pump and do you know of any kits with all seals and everything needed that fits a 2007 acura tl type s.
Amazon routinely has the full OEM timing belt kit for the J-Series engines (virtually all use the same kit); this will be the kit I buy next time my TL needs the service done (in about three to four more years):
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300K miles on my J32 and cam seals are fine..never been replaced.
Your's is clearly an outlier.
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Amazon routinely has the full OEM timing belt kit for the J-Series engines (virtually all use the same kit); this will be the kit I buy next time my TL needs the service done (in about three to four more years):
Same kit; slightly lower price:
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do every seal you can, my rear main leaked miles after getting my 105k service done. so now i have to live with topping off oil for a few years.

do a valve adjustment

replace the water pump

replace the thermostat and do a coolant flush at the same time.

also see if there is an oil pump leak, that's another very common one and one that i have as well. i wish i had known about all the leaks when i did the TB/WP job so now i just top off every 2k miles or so
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Originally Posted by horseshoez View Post
Your's is clearly an outlier.
Based on what?
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Originally Posted by nfnsquared View Post
Based on what?
almost every TL owner i know has an oil leak of some sort haha
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Originally Posted by nfnsquared View Post
Based on what?
Try this, find another J-Series engine, anywhere in the world, with a half-million kilometers/three-hundred-thousand miles on it; like it or don't, believe it or not, you will be hard pressed to find a single one. From an engineering/scientific perspective, that makes your engine an outlier.
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Originally Posted by sockr1 View Post
almost every TL owner i know has an oil leak of some sort haha
I'm only referring to cam seals. I don't recall seeing a plethora of people posting about cam seals leaking on 3G J32.

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Try this, find another J-Series engine, anywhere in the world, with a half-million kilometers/three-hundred-thousand miles on it; like it or don't, believe it or not, you will be hard pressed to find a single one. From an engineering/scientific perspective, that makes your engine an outlier.
Oh, mileage wise, I agree. But not with regard to cam seal leakage on J32...
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This one doesn't come with Serpentine Belt. Hence cheaper price. Thanks for the link. My TL is up for 200K service and I'm planning on getting everything on this kit but separately.
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It is actually cheaper to get them all separate:

1) Serpentine Belt:
Amazon Amazon

2) TB/WP Kit:
Amazon Amazon

3) Cam/Crankshaft Seal Kit:
Amazon Amazon

And I don't meant to thread-jack but is the "Rear Main Seal" the same as "the Crankshaft Seal"? I've been trying to find out more info. on it and I'm a little confused. Does it really require you to drop the transmission to do the "Rear Main Seal" as I've read somewhere. Or perhaps I have been mis-informed?
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Originally Posted by mhtut83 View Post
It is actually cheaper to get them all separate:

1) Serpentine Belt: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...KIKX0DER&psc=1

2) TB/WP Kit: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...U5VFQMLM&psc=1

3) Cam/Crankshaft Seal Kit: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...UB6LWBWL&psc=1

And I don't meant to thread-jack but is the "Rear Main Seal" the same as "the Crankshaft Seal"? I've been trying to find out more info. on it and I'm a little confused. Does it really require you to drop the transmission to do the "Rear Main Seal" as I've read somewhere. Or perhaps I have been mis-informed?
I believe the crank shaft seal is the front seal which is easily accessible when you do a timing belt R&R; the rear main seal is a different seal and it does require you to drop both the subframe and the transmission.
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