'04 to '08 front lower control arm bushing failure - please read and look
#1322
Try 07 bushings
Most dealers just replace the entire control arm which is about $250 ea, plus labor. Seems like most of the commenters here either do it themselves or find a smaller shop that can press in the new bearings, maybe $40 for each bushing and an hour labor and an alignment if they take the arm off. I replaced my 06 bushings once, they tore in less than a year, then I replaced them the next time with the 07 bushings which are softer and it has been 5 yrs and they aren't torn. The steering lost a little precision but at this point I don't care, it is a 10 yr old car. I also put 07 shock assys which made the ride more comfortable.
#1323
Instructor
. . . then I replaced them the next time with the 07 bushings which are softer and it has been 5 yrs and they aren't torn. The steering lost a little precision but at this point I don't care, it is a 10 yr old car. I also put 07 shock assys which made the ride more comfortable . . .
#1324
LCA for TSX
I started to buy the parts to built the tool then found this: CAK648-649 - [Front Lower Set] 2 Control Arms - Prime Choice
It was less expensive than building the tool and buying the bushings PLUS it came with 3 new bushings instead of one
It was less expensive than building the tool and buying the bushings PLUS it came with 3 new bushings instead of one
#1325
Race Director
^^^ great price for TSX, but IMO it's still cheaper and less work to buy/build the tool and replace just the compliance bushings...
#1326
OCD
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Hey everyone I just wanted to share a few pictures/video from my last compliance bushing replacement on my parents 2006 Accord (150K) (his is the same exact process for the TL). These were very easy to replace with the arm still on the car using the bolts/hardware suggested on on this thread. I used a cup from my ball joint press set instead of the suggested 2-1/8 socket.
https://photos.app.goo.gl/ClPFooafkSwHtKec2
https://photos.app.goo.gl/ClPFooafkSwHtKec2
#1327
Drifting
What is the outer diameter of the 2" socket? Do you have a mm gauge Thanks
#1329
This is a long thread. Can someone list the parts to make the home-made bushing remover/installer? And what is the trick not to remove the LCA from the ball joint while doing this? And how hard is to bolt back the control arm to the chassis?
#1330
Race Director
#1331
I heard installing back the control arm is a little tough aligning the bolts on the arm.
#1332
Race Director
Yes, and yes.
You have to get a little manly with it to get it back in. A 4-lb sledge hammer and a large pry bar help a lot
You have to get a little manly with it to get it back in. A 4-lb sledge hammer and a large pry bar help a lot
#1333
#1336
Drifting
here are some home depot links to some materials. Scroll down
https://acurazine.com/forums/3g-tl-t...e-tool-972611/
https://acurazine.com/forums/3g-tl-t...e-tool-972611/
#1338
here are some home depot links to some materials. Scroll down
https://acurazine.com/forums/3g-tl-t...e-tool-972611/
https://acurazine.com/forums/3g-tl-t...e-tool-972611/
#1339
here are some home depot links to some materials. Scroll down
https://acurazine.com/forums/3g-tl-t...e-tool-972611/
https://acurazine.com/forums/3g-tl-t...e-tool-972611/
whay at is the OD of these 2 sockets?
#1340
Senior Moderator
PSA: Amazon has a set of 2 for a really good price !https://smile.amazon.com/gp/product/B00J36ABHY/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o00__o00_s00?ie=UTF8&ps c=1
39.99 +15 shipping for two. There seems to only be one left in stock. (I bought one)
Nearest comp is about 45 shipped on ebay or 38~ plus shipping on oemacuraparts.com and the like
39.99 +15 shipping for two. There seems to only be one left in stock. (I bought one)
Nearest comp is about 45 shipped on ebay or 38~ plus shipping on oemacuraparts.com and the like
#1341
Hello,
I’m preparing to personally replace my front compliance bushings. These are the second pair. The first pair lasted about ten years; this pair began to tear after about three years of very gentle driving.
From what I’ve read and seen, the second pair were improperly aligned (thank you dealership): one was even installed upside down and 45 degrees off. There seems to be a correct alignment for installation with only plus/minus 3 degrees of error (see attached screenshot of what appear to be dealer instructions from an etcg video of an installation in a Honda element.)
Questions
1) Does anyone have the TL instructions
2) If no instructions are available, can others confirm that the alignment of the bushing in the attached picture (with red arrow) taken from post #651 in this thread is correct? No disrespect meant to that poster, it seems to agree with other pictures on the web, but I’d appreciate a 2nd confirmation.
etcg element video (instructions shown around 11 minute 30 seconds)
I’m preparing to personally replace my front compliance bushings. These are the second pair. The first pair lasted about ten years; this pair began to tear after about three years of very gentle driving.
From what I’ve read and seen, the second pair were improperly aligned (thank you dealership): one was even installed upside down and 45 degrees off. There seems to be a correct alignment for installation with only plus/minus 3 degrees of error (see attached screenshot of what appear to be dealer instructions from an etcg video of an installation in a Honda element.)
Questions
1) Does anyone have the TL instructions
2) If no instructions are available, can others confirm that the alignment of the bushing in the attached picture (with red arrow) taken from post #651 in this thread is correct? No disrespect meant to that poster, it seems to agree with other pictures on the web, but I’d appreciate a 2nd confirmation.
etcg element video (instructions shown around 11 minute 30 seconds)
#1344
A lot of good info in this thread. Went over it since I never actually pressed in/out any control arm bushings before.
One tip for the lower bj on the hondas with double wishbone suspension - loosen the bj nut, then try to raise the knuckle up with something (like piece of wood between rotor/hub and jack) and then tap lower arm with the hammer where it connects to the ball joint. You could even leave the nut threaded in, lower the car on the ramps and then tap the control arm. If ever need to replace axle/bearing/ball joint that's what I always do. Separating bj is like the easiest part of this job so I don't understand why anybody would try doing it on the car.
I have press and bunch of ball joint adapters and old bearings so finding what I need to press in/out the bushings was easy. Only trouble was that one bushing on the rear of the arm. I welded small ridge to have adapter to rest against something. After pushing the bushing out that ridge is not needed, it probably wouldn't collide with anything but I removed it.
Old stuff, 125k miles.
Overall there are more fun ways of spending Saturday.
BTW 1.5 years, 17k miles ago I replaced both of the front lower ball joints with MEVOTECH TXK80228. Both of them started seizing up, one was making creaking noise. It was actually hard to turn the steering wheel.
I try using oem parts as much as I can but spending ~$100 felt like too much. Now I ended up replacing both of them with OEM bj anyways so lesson learned. Good that all other parts replaced so far were OEM.
One tip for the lower bj on the hondas with double wishbone suspension - loosen the bj nut, then try to raise the knuckle up with something (like piece of wood between rotor/hub and jack) and then tap lower arm with the hammer where it connects to the ball joint. You could even leave the nut threaded in, lower the car on the ramps and then tap the control arm. If ever need to replace axle/bearing/ball joint that's what I always do. Separating bj is like the easiest part of this job so I don't understand why anybody would try doing it on the car.
I have press and bunch of ball joint adapters and old bearings so finding what I need to press in/out the bushings was easy. Only trouble was that one bushing on the rear of the arm. I welded small ridge to have adapter to rest against something. After pushing the bushing out that ridge is not needed, it probably wouldn't collide with anything but I removed it.
Old stuff, 125k miles.
Overall there are more fun ways of spending Saturday.
BTW 1.5 years, 17k miles ago I replaced both of the front lower ball joints with MEVOTECH TXK80228. Both of them started seizing up, one was making creaking noise. It was actually hard to turn the steering wheel.
I try using oem parts as much as I can but spending ~$100 felt like too much. Now I ended up replacing both of them with OEM bj anyways so lesson learned. Good that all other parts replaced so far were OEM.
#1345
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Hello everyone, since I am not only the owner of TL but also have a small company producing polyurethane bushings, I solved this problem in this way. I installed my own bushings. Since I installed the softest bushings, which are slightly higher in hardness than OEM, I don’t feel much difference in riding comfort. In the future I want to try the harder 85a. If you want to repeat my experience, write me a private message, I am ready to send these details to your country. Thank you, good luck everyone. Sincerely, Ali
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