ILLustriousUA6

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Here is how she sits now.. crazy how badly this has come about. I don't know the cause of this bad bad tire wear... anybody got any comments or anything, feel free to ask and answer.

These tires were pretty fresh when I bought them. I went in today to America's tire Co. to see if they would refund it for me because of how this gave out on me. They said it will not be under warranty because it's supposed to be "wear and tear" from owner.. I even told him that the sidewalls started to crack and and as u can see, it has. This is also with the OTHER tire that has not popped yet, but is headin on it's way to blowing.

I also let him know that i GOT an alignment in february and told him i have all the paper work if he wants to see it, he refused to see it and told me that i needed a front camber plate .

I'm on Tein-ss's and dropped pretty low. maybe 1/2 a finger gap below tire.

ballinfizzle89

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Oh damn..


I love your car btw...<3

Distorted Reality

Hmm how is your driver side front tire looking? Have you jacked up the car or taking the other wheel/tire off to monitor to see if anything was occuring to that wheel or tire? I would have to say it looks like the result of a poor alignment/toe done to it. I mean you can get a camber kit for the front. But the key is a good alignment/toe correction. And what tires are you running hard to tell?

ILLustriousUA6

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that's pretty much what i thought man. I went to a pertty legit place tho, in my area, every tuner recommends them

I am running Goodyear F1 Summer tires.. they are charging me like 261/tire!

Distorted Reality

Damn bro thats crazy, but I hear those tires are excellent. Definately shouldn't of happen. I would say you are pretty damn lucky though atleast nothing happended to your wheel, or cause you to loose control of the car and something more tradgic to happen. I'd just suggest hitting up another alignment place and make sure they are able to one work on a lowered car and two able to correct your toe to zero as humanly possible.

vipTL

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damn that sucks bro. like what distorted said. i think it's a Toe problem.. im slammed but i still only have 2 degrees of camber up front. Toe will destroy your tires way more than camber will. also do u drive pretty aggressively? reason i ask cause i drive like a grandma when i take turns lol

Distorted Reality

+2 ROFL I have to turn like a grandma too, I'm so low. I feel ya on that lol.

vipTL

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grandma turns FTW lol

Bearcat94

Well he said he had an alignment.

It looks like the shoulder was constantly rolling over or the sidewall buckling. It's so clean it looks almost cut.

If it's not a manufacturing defect, are sure you had good tire pressure, appropriate Section width for the wheels, etc?

Are any of the other tires doing that?

Oh, yeah .... and is that Volk Wheel face down on the pavement?

:lol:

bforbrian

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damn why does your tire seem to be aspect ratio 30 instead of 35? looks like a clean incision... you sure it was because of the road? i think someone took a scalpel and performed open tire surgery on your car.

ayabei

omg, i want those rims!!!

and what tire are those? i'll make sure not to buy those....

04DCTL

as stated before, i believe also that is a toe issue.
but ive never heard anything bad about those tires really
personally, i run nexen/falken/neo gen's haha
never had any problems with any of those.
but sorry to hear about that man and hope it doesnt happen again

ILLustriousUA6

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the only tires that are doing that are the front 2..

ayabei these tires are goodyear eagle f1 summer tires.. really nice tires, one of the
nicest i've ever had.. ... till this happened.

thnx for the concern everyone.. I will be goin to another America's Tire tomorrow to see if they can do anything about this. if not. i'mma just buy another one =\

ecliptics

wtff sucks to hear that happend to you man. sorry for the n00b question, but what does it mean when you guys are talkin about the cause being "toe"?

261 a tire? damm its ok.. i got ripped off on my falkens i paid like 200 a tire and i think they're supposed to cost like 140 each

ed99

I have never seen a tire split all around like that before. This could be a tire defect??

chill_dog

What are you seeing? I think you need to borrow my glasses .


Toe problem.

ILLustriousUA6

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Because it is a toe problem, should i go back to my alignment shop and complain?

ILLustriousUA6

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same here, this has to be the first time i've ever seen tire wear like this. I know i have a crap load of tread left on these tires too, but unluckily for me, they are done for already. I put on quite some miles already.

Distorted Reality

Yeah I thought about that later today, could possibly be a defected tire. Hard to say but knowing the tire place you went to they could possibly say it happended because of your altered suspension and how you aren't running any sort of camber kit for your type of drop.

I mean you could go back and complain to them, don't know if they are a good shop or not. But most likely they will feed you some bullshit and tell you because of your drop that is what affected your tire to happen like that. But imo I would have to say from the looks of the tire like I stated before looks like to be because of a very shitty alignment/and not correcting the toe as good as possible. I think going back to the place that did that and explaining to them what happended won't hurt anything. Maybe they will try and compensate you somehow but probably highly doubtful.

c_potvin

I have the same tires. I take curves pretty fast and mine are still in very good shape (3rd summer). They're worn evenly.

I'll go back the the alignment shop. Something's wrong just by seing a side worn like this!

Thanks god you didn't lose control.

Good luck.

Carl

ILLustriousUA6

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thnx for input guys. i have called them and they said they dont do any warratny work at all or all that and told me that i should have a front camber kit because of the way it's lowered..

i'm lost but i have a pretty clear understanding of what i'm goin to go.

i will realign, and hopefully this guy calls me today so i can pick the tires up... thnx everyone for the help!

HONgDA

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You should get the tires first, get them mounted and then do the alignment.

Bearcat94

chill_dog, 4th pic from the bottom -thought the wheel was lying flat, but upon further review, I think the OP is holding it up; just a 2D optical illusion, I guess.


Can someone explain the physics/mechanics that would allow bad Toe alignment to cut the tire around the outer shoulder/sidewall?

(Because I don't get it. )

ILLustriousUA6

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^ it might have been because of me rolling around flat for >1 mile..

but a crack is ALSO seen on my OTHER tire that isn't flat.. i would say abotu 10-15mm

chill_dog

I figured...just giving you a hard time, buddy.


It's actually the inner shoulder where the tear occured. Marcus (Mr. Heeltoe) explains it HERE in the "Do I Need a Camber Kit?" thread. I vaguely remember seeing a wonderful explaination of toe, camber, and caster (with illustations) some time ago, but couldn't find it.

Tripnbeats

that sucks...i think u missed a few angles of the tire.

lembowski

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This sucks!

But I guess this is the reason that I bought the extended warranty on my tires....

lights

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like other people said...
they didn't adjust your toe properly....and yes, toe can wore out your tires more than camber...