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Old 01-24-2012, 11:52 AM
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Straight2Black Photography presents....updated 8/9/12

Hey Azine I decided that instead of making whole new threads everytime I do a photoshoot of a member's car or cars in general I post them in one spot for all of you to comment, criticize, or state your opinion. I am always open to knowing how I can improve my shots and I thank you ahead of time for your feedback. Also if anyone would like a photoshoot done let me know via pm as I am in the NJ area. Thanks again and enjoy:


Title: White on White (1/17/12)
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well the 2 WDP's loom sick, and the shots are pretty nice too!

you did well IMO.
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nice!
the effects make me wanna pick up the cars out of the picture lol.
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These photos would look 100000x better had you not added the blur effects. Looks like you're using a Canon 60D, which is a very capable camera. If you want to add natural DOF (depth of field) to your photos, use a long focal length with a zoom lens and/or a large aperture (small f-number). Your 18-55mm kit lens (I assume that's what you're shooting with) is a good all-around lens, but for automotive photography, a decent zoom lens with a f/2.8 max aperture is great to have. Even if you're on a budget, Canon makes several versions of a cheaper 70-300mm f/4-5.6 which are very nice too.

Once you can produce the look you're going for straight out of the camera, you'll be much more satisfied with the results.
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SICK cars....and awesome Photography !!!
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Nice pics, definitely agree with ebelp though, looks like the cars are hot wheels-sized haha. Nice WDPs!
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+1 with ebelp. Great shots but there are some awkward things about them.. the angles and focus could be better, I hope you accept constructive criticism!
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Thanks guys for the criticism as i am trying to improve so i appreciate it and in terms of lens i have a 18 to 200mm f2.8 lens i was using ...i agree in terms of setting up the dof i didnt need to really add the blur but i did because i wanted to put more focus on the cars and not the target in the background....but thanks ill keep all ths in mind going forward
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Originally Posted by ShadowAcura
Thanks guys for the criticism as i am trying to improve so i appreciate it and in terms of lens i have a 18 to 200mm f2.8 lens i was using ...i agree in terms of setting up the dof i didnt need to really add the blur but i did because i wanted to put more focus on the cars and not the target in the background....but thanks ill keep all ths in mind going forward
Just to clarify, your 18-200mm lens isn't f/2.8. It's probably f/3.5-5.6. However, you can still accomplish the shallow DOF look at the long end of the zoom (100-200mm range is good). The more you zoom in on a foreground subject, the more it becomes "separated" from the background. Keep shooting and experimenting with different focal ranges, shutter speeds, apertures, etc.
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Nice shots and sweet WDP!
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Sweet wdp's

Not bad shots, although they could be better.
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Did you use some kind of miniature effect? They seem like toy cars sometimes.
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lol they do look like toys, very cool effect

Both cars are sick though, no doubt
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60d+18-200 lens costco package lol

and ebelp, how did you know it was 60d quality pics?

I think a tripod would have helped with some pics as well.
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Originally Posted by Silver_Surfer
Did you use some kind of miniature effect? They seem like toy cars sometimes.
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nice!
the effects make me wanna pick up the cars out of the picture lol.
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lol they do look like toys, very cool effect

Both cars are sick though, no doubt
It's called tilt-shift photography.

Very effective at making things look miniature.

You can do tilt shift by getting tilt shift lens or using Photoshop to create the effect.

I agree with a lot of people - the pictures look fuzzy wuzzy.
If they were more focused, it would add so much more to the tilt-shift.







Google it if you're interested =)
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Originally Posted by jwr0ng626
60d+18-200 lens costco package lol

and ebelp, how did you know it was 60d quality pics?

I think a tripod would have helped with some pics as well.
EXIF data.
it will tell you what camera was used, what settings, etc.
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Originally Posted by guitarplayer16
It's called tilt-shift photography.

Very effective at making things look miniature.

You can do tilt shift by getting tilt shift lens or using Photoshop to create the effect.
The Instagram app for the iPhone has a good tilt-shift feature. Here's one I did recently: http://instagr.am/p/Jh7Pw/

Okay, back on topic....yes, get an EXIF reader/plugin and you can see a lot of info about an image.
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Originally Posted by guitarplayer16
It's called tilt-shift photography.

Very effective at making things look miniature.

You can do tilt shift by getting tilt shift lens or using Photoshop to create the effect.

I agree with a lot of people - the pictures look fuzzy wuzzy.
If they were more focused, it would add so much more to the tilt-shift.







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Thanks for the criticism but what do you mean by fuzzy wuzzy you think if i minimalized the blur effect it bring back more sharpness to the image ..and i was experiementing with tilt shift but was using it to maximize the focus on the cars themselves and minimize the background not the reverse ...which i guess happened creating the "toy" car effect....i wi keep this in mind as i edit my next set thank you
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If you notice, you get the tilt-shift effect when areas of the background AND foreground are blurred....which is what you did above. If you want to avoid this creating the toy car effect, try to limit your blurring to the background only. Realistically, if you're taking automotive shots, the only thing in the foreground should be the vehicle, so there should be no reason to blur the foreground. Blurring the background in some instances does make sense though. But like I mentioned, get out there and take some shots around 100-200mm and you'll get the look you want right out of the camera without having to add it with PS.

Example:

Shot at 145mm at f/2.8, no editing other than resize.

Also, google the term, "bokeh".
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Originally Posted by ebelp
These photos would look 100000x better had you not added the blur effects. Looks like you're using a Canon 60D, which is a very capable camera. If you want to add natural DOF (depth of field) to your photos, use a long focal length with a zoom lens and/or a large aperture (small f-number). Your 18-55mm kit lens (I assume that's what you're shooting with) is a good all-around lens, but for automotive photography, a decent zoom lens with a f/2.8 max aperture is great to have. Even if you're on a budget, Canon makes several versions of a cheaper 70-300mm f/4-5.6 which are very nice too.

Once you can produce the look you're going for straight out of the camera, you'll be much more satisfied with the results.
Good advice. However, I strongly disagree that the look that you go for in a picture comes straight out of a camera. A lot of it is in post processing.

Not saying the camera (or more importantly the lens) isn't what's important, because it totally is. But almost all photographs that get the "ooooo's" and "ahhhh's" of the crowd all use heavy post processing.

Lightroom is am AMAZiNG product by the way, if you can get your hands on it.

Otherwise, good work Jarrod
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Originally Posted by uhohkaitlina
Good advice. However, I strongly disagree that the look that you go for in a picture comes straight out of a camera. A lot of it is in post processing.

Not saying the camera (or more importantly the lens) isn't what's important, because it totally is. But almost all photographs that get the "ooooo's" and "ahhhh's" of the crowd all use heavy post processing.

Lightroom is am AMAZiNG product by the way, if you can get your hands on it.

Otherwise, good work Jarrod
Yeah, obviously that's a case-by-case situation. You're never going to get exactly what you want from step 1 every time. I also agree with you...there are a lot of photographers whose claim-to-fame is their ability to edit the hell out of their photos in a specific style that's appealing to a lot of people (the Dragan effect is one of my favs). For the OP though, he wants all the focus to be on the cars with a blurred background, which is pretty simple to accomplish right out of the camera and looks a lot better than a doctored photo with fake blur.
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Photos came out great for handheld. I would suggest getting a tripod if you don't have one. Tripod is key for night photography if your shooting with long exposure. And shoot with aperture around 5.6-11 for sharper photos. Set iso to 100 for least amount of noise. And shutter depends on amount of light around you.

If you want bokehlicious get 35mm or 50mm. The 50mm 1.8 you can get around 100 which is a great price for what it can do.

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Originally Posted by ebelp
Yeah, obviously that's a case-by-case situation. You're never going to get exactly what you want from step 1 every time. I also agree with you...there are a lot of photographers whose claim-to-fame is their ability to edit the hell out of their photos in a specific style that's appealing to a lot of people (the Dragan effect is one of my favs). For the OP though, he wants all the focus to be on the cars with a blurred background, which is pretty simple to accomplish right out of the camera and looks a lot better than a doctored photo with fake blur.
Gotcha, and yes, I agree.
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What settings did you shoot these with?
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# Exposure Time (1 / Shutter Speed) {0x829A} = 1/30 second ===> 0.03333 second
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Slickoooze, download an EXIF addon.
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