PIC REQUEST - ASPEC PMM REAR TYPE S vs. BASE
PIC REQUEST - ASPEC PMM REAR TYPE S vs. BASE
hey everybody!! i'm trying to do some research on aspec kits for the rears. i seen a ton of aspec kits both type s and base so i understand the differences but id really like to see them specifically in my color both versions... they kinda have a different vibe or personality on the different colors for instance the arch on the back is very pronounced on like a white or silver one that really changes the look of the car making it much sportier in my opinion..whereas its more subtle n sneaky on a black one like it wants to sneak up on you lol cuz the color of the car blends more with the grey plastic part... i might be a little overboard but to me thats the kinda detail that separates the nice setups from the NICE SETUPS.. thanks guys!!
This member has the base aspec kit. Good luck looking for an aspec rear for the Type S in PMM. I don't think it exists. (Other members, correct me if I'm wrong!
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https://acurazine.com/forums/showthr...&highlight=pmm
)https://acurazine.com/forums/showthr...&highlight=pmm
hey bro, thanks alot for the link!! lmao unfortunately that was the only pic of a pmm with a aspec that i could find as well. damn i didnt realize that this might only be a base color, or a super rare type s color. i saw on that delray acura site that they had pmm kits, but i didnt see if hey had both.
i realized they're a lil different, the type s has bigger openings for quad exhaust tips, and the base one has smaller openings for the base exhaust tips...
do you guys think the base one looks a little inadequate, like the bigger bumper makes teh tips look too small? i was staring at that back pic in the garage next to the F150 for like 20 mins the other day and i dont know if i really like it cuz the two different colors on the back bumper look almost identical but idk if its really like that or just the pic..
thanks in advance for any assistance gang!!
i realized they're a lil different, the type s has bigger openings for quad exhaust tips, and the base one has smaller openings for the base exhaust tips...
do you guys think the base one looks a little inadequate, like the bigger bumper makes teh tips look too small? i was staring at that back pic in the garage next to the F150 for like 20 mins the other day and i dont know if i really like it cuz the two different colors on the back bumper look almost identical but idk if its really like that or just the pic..
thanks in advance for any assistance gang!!
this might help with what i'm tryina figure out...
question 1. you see how the base aspec lip goes up and all the way across the bumper and back down? as opposed to the type s that still wraps around each end of the exhaust...
TYPE S REAR ASPEC

BASE REAR ASPEC

is this how it is from 04 all the way to 08? or do the slight differences in 04-06 vs 07-08 base (as well as 04-06 vs 07-08 type s) possibly cause one to look better than the other??? cuz i swear i see the base rear aspecs and i love them like this white one, but on the grey, i really dont know now... i wonder if its the fact that the tips on the white car below dont stand out whatsoever, which maybe throwing it off for me on the grey? it just looks like a way better fit on the white as far as my 2 cents go...
white base aspec rear lip

...or maybe its just people putting on bigger exhaust tips like this member? i think this looks a little bit better than just a base aspec with base exhaust tips, but idk if i'd go this route... maybe... since i'll most likely end up doing an exhaust if i dont get too tired of her from modding too quick n wantin to step into something else...
base aspec with aftermarket tips

i've been doing a ton of research and i might be getting hung up on stupid details, but idk... im kinda too picky for my own good haha (i know theres a ton of you on here that are the same way tho when it comes to your pride n joy haha)..
AND NOW to make matters worse, i thought i was sold on a base front lip, but god damn after seein this type s one on what i think is my color grey but not sure, this looks better? my only thing is the line halfway up the bumper where the lip ends n the bumper begins doesnt line up with anything on the side of the car? (not sure cuz i only seen pics n no real life cars yet)
type s aspec front bumper


base? aspec front bumper

if anyone can provide some better clarification n pictures to the subtle differences between the years and teh models to help me or anoyone else out in my situation is really appreciated... take care everybody and thanks a ton!! (good pics of some grey ones are preferred for comparison purposes, other colors are also appreciated tho
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question 1. you see how the base aspec lip goes up and all the way across the bumper and back down? as opposed to the type s that still wraps around each end of the exhaust...
TYPE S REAR ASPEC

BASE REAR ASPEC

is this how it is from 04 all the way to 08? or do the slight differences in 04-06 vs 07-08 base (as well as 04-06 vs 07-08 type s) possibly cause one to look better than the other??? cuz i swear i see the base rear aspecs and i love them like this white one, but on the grey, i really dont know now... i wonder if its the fact that the tips on the white car below dont stand out whatsoever, which maybe throwing it off for me on the grey? it just looks like a way better fit on the white as far as my 2 cents go...
white base aspec rear lip

...or maybe its just people putting on bigger exhaust tips like this member? i think this looks a little bit better than just a base aspec with base exhaust tips, but idk if i'd go this route... maybe... since i'll most likely end up doing an exhaust if i dont get too tired of her from modding too quick n wantin to step into something else...
base aspec with aftermarket tips

i've been doing a ton of research and i might be getting hung up on stupid details, but idk... im kinda too picky for my own good haha (i know theres a ton of you on here that are the same way tho when it comes to your pride n joy haha)..
AND NOW to make matters worse, i thought i was sold on a base front lip, but god damn after seein this type s one on what i think is my color grey but not sure, this looks better? my only thing is the line halfway up the bumper where the lip ends n the bumper begins doesnt line up with anything on the side of the car? (not sure cuz i only seen pics n no real life cars yet)
type s aspec front bumper


base? aspec front bumper

if anyone can provide some better clarification n pictures to the subtle differences between the years and teh models to help me or anoyone else out in my situation is really appreciated... take care everybody and thanks a ton!! (good pics of some grey ones are preferred for comparison purposes, other colors are also appreciated tho
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the last pic....is an 07-08 base lip. how can you tell? the 04-06 base lips have a little black/gray plastic lip just under the painted portion.

the first and 2nd TL's are base models with 04-06 lip kits...see the little extra black plastic hanging from under ther lip below the painted portion. the 3rd TL is a type S no lip kit (IIRC), the 4th TL is a type-s with a lip kit.

the type-s parked next to the 4th gen...has a type-s lip, the base TL (it's an 05) has an 07-08 front bumper conversion with aspec lip...notice no black/gray plastic piece on the lip? like the one in your last pic.
be careful when choosing. the grays are all different shades depending on year. 04-06- anthracite metallic, 07-carbon gray pearl, 08 polished metal metallic. hope this helps.

the first and 2nd TL's are base models with 04-06 lip kits...see the little extra black plastic hanging from under ther lip below the painted portion. the 3rd TL is a type S no lip kit (IIRC), the 4th TL is a type-s with a lip kit.

the type-s parked next to the 4th gen...has a type-s lip, the base TL (it's an 05) has an 07-08 front bumper conversion with aspec lip...notice no black/gray plastic piece on the lip? like the one in your last pic.
be careful when choosing. the grays are all different shades depending on year. 04-06- anthracite metallic, 07-carbon gray pearl, 08 polished metal metallic. hope this helps.
thanks for the help gang! i didnt know about the 04-06 extra piece!! smh i also just realized that i'd have to paint anything besides an 08 base aspec kit... i'll have to figure out how much the paint costs n get my boy to hook it up if i end up going that route
until i started putting this thread i was convinced i wanted just a base kit and maybe the type s back... but after seeing that 07-08 type s one on the two grey ones next to eachother in the nice pics man i dont know!?!?!? (is one a 04-06 with the little extra plastic piece too(yellow fogs) or is that a base thing, and the one next to it with the type s wheels a 07-08? (no extra plastic)?)
i dont want to cut up bumpers so i think id have to get a type s front bumper, paint it PMM, and paint the type s aspec lip PMM too just for the front if i chose that route, n paint the whole rest of the kit.. and i still dont know what back bumper i want
... god i wish i wasnt so freakin picky... after all the money i just dropped on wheels n suspension, my lil lady is gonna wring my neck just for buyin the lip kit, let alone a bumper n paint smh... AHHHHHHHHH THIS MUTHAAA'UFFIN FORUMS GONNA BE THE END OF ME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
lol sike lemme stop...thanks guys, lets try and map out the differences in the backs maybe then sticky it? as far as i know, we dont have something for everyone to compare the differences visually? if there is im sorry i didnt see it, but i sure been lookin

until i started putting this thread i was convinced i wanted just a base kit and maybe the type s back... but after seeing that 07-08 type s one on the two grey ones next to eachother in the nice pics man i dont know!?!?!? (is one a 04-06 with the little extra plastic piece too(yellow fogs) or is that a base thing, and the one next to it with the type s wheels a 07-08? (no extra plastic)?)
i dont want to cut up bumpers so i think id have to get a type s front bumper, paint it PMM, and paint the type s aspec lip PMM too just for the front if i chose that route, n paint the whole rest of the kit.. and i still dont know what back bumper i want
... god i wish i wasnt so freakin picky... after all the money i just dropped on wheels n suspension, my lil lady is gonna wring my neck just for buyin the lip kit, let alone a bumper n paint smh... AHHHHHHHHH THIS MUTHAAA'UFFIN FORUMS GONNA BE THE END OF ME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! lol sike lemme stop...thanks guys, lets try and map out the differences in the backs maybe then sticky it? as far as i know, we dont have something for everyone to compare the differences visually? if there is im sorry i didnt see it, but i sure been lookin
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until i started putting this thread i was convinced i wanted just a base kit and maybe the type s back... but after seeing that 07-08 type s one on the two grey ones next to eachother in the nice pics man i dont know!?!?!? (is one a 04-06 with the little extra plastic piece too(yellow fogs) or is that a base thing, and the one next to it with the type s wheels a 07-08? (no extra plastic)?)
i have type -s and base rear end pics. with and with aspec kits. will post later when i get home.
in which photos are you referring? then second one i posted...with the 4G, the type-s parked next to it is actualy carbon bronze pearl. the 05 base with the 07-08 front end is next to that one...is AM.
i have type -s and base rear end pics. with and with aspec kits. will post later when i get home.
i have type -s and base rear end pics. with and with aspec kits. will post later when i get home.
07-08 type s?

04-06 type s?

thanks so much for the help in contributing to this post!! i really hope it helps everybody else as much as it's helping me understand all of the slight differences in the kits.. i cant wait to see the pics!!
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he is correct...
OP- your pics the first one is a type-s with the type s rims (as far as i can tell )it has the 07-08 mirrors, yes that is the type s aspec lip kit.
the second one with yellow fogs, is a 04-06 base, with a type-s conversion and type-s aspec lip.
the following pic:
MRP type-s has lip kit, the NBP type-s no lip kit, the SSM 04-06 base type-s conversion (not sure about the aspec lip).

this pic:
SSM 04-06 base aspec (painted plastic trim in rear- i believe), AM 04-06 base aspec with weld on dual tips, CBP type-s with type-s aspec lip

these will give you an idea.
OP- your pics the first one is a type-s with the type s rims (as far as i can tell )it has the 07-08 mirrors, yes that is the type s aspec lip kit.
the second one with yellow fogs, is a 04-06 base, with a type-s conversion and type-s aspec lip.
the following pic:
MRP type-s has lip kit, the NBP type-s no lip kit, the SSM 04-06 base type-s conversion (not sure about the aspec lip).

this pic:
SSM 04-06 base aspec (painted plastic trim in rear- i believe), AM 04-06 base aspec with weld on dual tips, CBP type-s with type-s aspec lip

these will give you an idea.
Also, I believe "Schulminator" sold his TL, to a member on here.....
Check this link for info on that Carbon Fiber add-on...
https://acurazine.com/forums/southeast-318/central-florida-meet-10-29-11-c-c-9am-12pm-then-acurazine-meet-12-3-%40-kamispeed-830290/
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GUYS THANK YOU SO MUCH!!!! i wish i could come over there and plant a big ol' wettt one on each n every one of ya's!! lol but seriously this has been such a big help getting to the bottom of this debackle!! god only knows how much longer it would have taken me to keep soaking up maybe retain the little bits and pieces of info getting picked up from the searchin ive been tryina do
....if anyone else has anything else to share please do!! i bet alotta people will benefit from seeing all this great info in one place.... i smelll STICKY!!
....if anyone else has anything else to share please do!! i bet alotta people will benefit from seeing all this great info in one place.... i smelll STICKY!!
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an 04-06 type-s does not exist....type -s was not offered until 07-08. but i think you figured that out already.
04-06 base, AT or MT, with or without tech (navi)
07-08 base, AT ONLY, with or without tech (navi)
07-08 type-s, AT or MT, with tech (navi)
^^just in case you needed some clarity.
04-06 base, AT or MT, with or without tech (navi)
07-08 base, AT ONLY, with or without tech (navi)
07-08 type-s, AT or MT, with tech (navi)
^^just in case you needed some clarity.
an 04-06 type-s does not exist....type -s was not offered until 07-08. but i think you figured that out already.
04-06 base, AT or MT, with or without tech (navi)
07-08 base, AT ONLY, with or without tech (navi)
07-08 type-s, AT or MT, with tech (navi)
^^just in case you needed some clarity.
04-06 base, AT or MT, with or without tech (navi)
07-08 base, AT ONLY, with or without tech (navi)
07-08 type-s, AT or MT, with tech (navi)
^^just in case you needed some clarity.
really?? i had no idea they didnt make a 04-06 type s till just now!! thats crazy... thanks so much for the clarification everyone!!! anone else who would like to share pics, opinions, things that work and dont work, please do!! this is a great thread so far!!
i got one that is not addressed on here...
I have an 04 BASE TL....
What is the difference between my rear, the Base TL and the Base Aspec Lip?
Because for the life of me I can't find shit on here. I see the base Aspec vs the Type S and Type S Aspec and all that...
I want to try to put quad tips, and most say, get the Base Aspec Lip kit....well what is the difference between the Base Lip and Base Aspec Lip? To me, it looks like the exhaust cutouts are the same...So, I could get quad tips with my current setup...I know it looks a little funky but the main questions here is...
What is the difference between my rear, the Base TL and the Base Aspec Lip?
I have an 04 BASE TL....
What is the difference between my rear, the Base TL and the Base Aspec Lip?
Because for the life of me I can't find shit on here. I see the base Aspec vs the Type S and Type S Aspec and all that...
I want to try to put quad tips, and most say, get the Base Aspec Lip kit....well what is the difference between the Base Lip and Base Aspec Lip? To me, it looks like the exhaust cutouts are the same...So, I could get quad tips with my current setup...I know it looks a little funky but the main questions here is...
What is the difference between my rear, the Base TL and the Base Aspec Lip?
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^^there is no base lip.
its base bumper, base with aspec lip, type-s, type-s with aspec lip.
see post #11 last pic.
the silver TL and the gray TL (both base with aspec lip). the gray one has welded on dual tips (belongs to twisdit), while the silver one has the stock exhaust.
are you looking for the weld on version for the look of a quad? or are you looking to do a conversion for the quad exahust like the type-s?? if you are looking for the latter, you will need to do a type-s conversion for the larger exhaust cut outs. either get the type-s lip and cut your existing bumper or get the type-s bumper with or without the aspec lip.
the base exhaust cut outs are smaller than the type-s cutouts.
its base bumper, base with aspec lip, type-s, type-s with aspec lip.
see post #11 last pic.
the silver TL and the gray TL (both base with aspec lip). the gray one has welded on dual tips (belongs to twisdit), while the silver one has the stock exhaust.
are you looking for the weld on version for the look of a quad? or are you looking to do a conversion for the quad exahust like the type-s?? if you are looking for the latter, you will need to do a type-s conversion for the larger exhaust cut outs. either get the type-s lip and cut your existing bumper or get the type-s bumper with or without the aspec lip.
the base exhaust cut outs are smaller than the type-s cutouts.
ok got it, makes perfect sense...I have no lip right now.
I was looking to do quad tips for the most minimal cost, so just weld on quad tips. So I see the DIY for cutting up my bumper then installing the type S Aspec lip but don't think it's worth it for me as I only plan on driving this for a year or two.
This is my first import and I am just driving it to save some money, but I have always modded my american muscle cars, so I cant help but make it my own.
anyway, I guess I will try to mod my stock bumper to look decent with quad tips, or keep a look out for a silver type s bumper..wish me luck, LOL.
I was looking to do quad tips for the most minimal cost, so just weld on quad tips. So I see the DIY for cutting up my bumper then installing the type S Aspec lip but don't think it's worth it for me as I only plan on driving this for a year or two.
This is my first import and I am just driving it to save some money, but I have always modded my american muscle cars, so I cant help but make it my own.
anyway, I guess I will try to mod my stock bumper to look decent with quad tips, or keep a look out for a silver type s bumper..wish me luck, LOL.
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so short answer is yes you can mix them. long answer....you just read it (ii hope).
JerzyDevil, I read the first sentence of this post and said hey, I'm in the same situation as this guy. Then I read this sentence- i've been doing a ton of research and i might be getting hung up on stupid details, but idk... im kinda too picky for my own good haha- and I said we must be brothas!
Seriously though, thanks for tracking down all of those pics, and thanks to everyone else for helping decide which exact model and kit they are. I will be getting an 07 or 08 TL very soon, more than likely a Type-S. I love the way the A-Spec kit looks on the base TL, but I think the Type-S A-Spec front bumper is a lil' too sporty for me.
So if I understand everything correctly, I can put Type-S A-Spec rear and side skirts on with a regular Type-S front bumper?
Seriously though, thanks for tracking down all of those pics, and thanks to everyone else for helping decide which exact model and kit they are. I will be getting an 07 or 08 TL very soon, more than likely a Type-S. I love the way the A-Spec kit looks on the base TL, but I think the Type-S A-Spec front bumper is a lil' too sporty for me.
So if I understand everything correctly, I can put Type-S A-Spec rear and side skirts on with a regular Type-S front bumper?
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^^so no lip in front but aspec rear and sides? is that what you are asking? yes you can do that. though it might look a little funny without the front lip. i haven't seen anyone do that yet. i have seen a base TL with just the rear lip.
there are many that run just the front lip on a base TL as well. it can be pulled off if you have a drop and wheels.
on the type-s, the front lip is pretty chunky and aggressive looking. and you would really need to put the entire kit on the car to make it look right. you could try and mod a base lip and put that on a type s front bumper (needs a lot of mods to get it to fit).
however i think you need to purchase a car first before you can really do anything. also keep in mind that some colors for the kits have been discontinued. if you're looking for a type-s....don't get silver (ASM) the kit has been discontinued. or you can, but you'd have to get a different color then have the pieces repainted.
there are many that run just the front lip on a base TL as well. it can be pulled off if you have a drop and wheels.
on the type-s, the front lip is pretty chunky and aggressive looking. and you would really need to put the entire kit on the car to make it look right. you could try and mod a base lip and put that on a type s front bumper (needs a lot of mods to get it to fit).
however i think you need to purchase a car first before you can really do anything. also keep in mind that some colors for the kits have been discontinued. if you're looking for a type-s....don't get silver (ASM) the kit has been discontinued. or you can, but you'd have to get a different color then have the pieces repainted.
Oh I'm gettin one! Found the exact Navigator I wanted a couple years ago and flew to Texas a few days later to get it. So it's just a matter of time. 
And I meant a base A-Spec front bumper/lip, not a regular Type-S front bumper. I reazlied that .2 seconds after I posted last night.
Funny that you out of all the colors available, you say don't get silver! ...because I'll be looking for a silver one! Oh well, what can ya do

And I meant a base A-Spec front bumper/lip, not a regular Type-S front bumper. I reazlied that .2 seconds after I posted last night.
Funny that you out of all the colors available, you say don't get silver! ...because I'll be looking for a silver one! Oh well, what can ya do
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^^i have nothing against silver. i like silver. i'm just saying if you wanted the aspec kit in the ASM (silver) for the 07-08 model yrs....you're gonna have to spend extra $$$ to get the pieces repainted is all. good luck on your search.
this might help with what i'm tryina figure out...
question 1. you see how the base aspec lip goes up and all the way across the bumper and back down? as opposed to the type s that still wraps around each end of the exhaust...
TYPE S REAR ASPEC

BASE REAR ASPEC

is this how it is from 04 all the way to 08? or do the slight differences in 04-06 vs 07-08 base (as well as 04-06 vs 07-08 type s) possibly cause one to look better than the other??? cuz i swear i see the base rear aspecs and i love them like this white one, but on the grey, i really dont know now... i wonder if its the fact that the tips on the white car below dont stand out whatsoever, which maybe throwing it off for me on the grey? it just looks like a way better fit on the white as far as my 2 cents go...
white base aspec rear lip

...or maybe its just people putting on bigger exhaust tips like this member? i think this looks a little bit better than just a base aspec with base exhaust tips, but idk if i'd go this route... maybe... since i'll most likely end up doing an exhaust if i dont get too tired of her from modding too quick n wantin to step into something else...
base aspec with aftermarket tips

i've been doing a ton of research and i might be getting hung up on stupid details, but idk... im kinda too picky for my own good haha (i know theres a ton of you on here that are the same way tho when it comes to your pride n joy haha)..
AND NOW to make matters worse, i thought i was sold on a base front lip, but god damn after seein this type s one on what i think is my color grey but not sure, this looks better? my only thing is the line halfway up the bumper where the lip ends n the bumper begins doesnt line up with anything on the side of the car? (not sure cuz i only seen pics n no real life cars yet)
type s aspec front bumper


base? aspec front bumper

if anyone can provide some better clarification n pictures to the subtle differences between the years and teh models to help me or anoyone else out in my situation is really appreciated... take care everybody and thanks a ton!! (good pics of some grey ones are preferred for comparison purposes, other colors are also appreciated tho
)
question 1. you see how the base aspec lip goes up and all the way across the bumper and back down? as opposed to the type s that still wraps around each end of the exhaust...
TYPE S REAR ASPEC

BASE REAR ASPEC

is this how it is from 04 all the way to 08? or do the slight differences in 04-06 vs 07-08 base (as well as 04-06 vs 07-08 type s) possibly cause one to look better than the other??? cuz i swear i see the base rear aspecs and i love them like this white one, but on the grey, i really dont know now... i wonder if its the fact that the tips on the white car below dont stand out whatsoever, which maybe throwing it off for me on the grey? it just looks like a way better fit on the white as far as my 2 cents go...
white base aspec rear lip

...or maybe its just people putting on bigger exhaust tips like this member? i think this looks a little bit better than just a base aspec with base exhaust tips, but idk if i'd go this route... maybe... since i'll most likely end up doing an exhaust if i dont get too tired of her from modding too quick n wantin to step into something else...
base aspec with aftermarket tips

i've been doing a ton of research and i might be getting hung up on stupid details, but idk... im kinda too picky for my own good haha (i know theres a ton of you on here that are the same way tho when it comes to your pride n joy haha)..
AND NOW to make matters worse, i thought i was sold on a base front lip, but god damn after seein this type s one on what i think is my color grey but not sure, this looks better? my only thing is the line halfway up the bumper where the lip ends n the bumper begins doesnt line up with anything on the side of the car? (not sure cuz i only seen pics n no real life cars yet)
type s aspec front bumper


base? aspec front bumper

if anyone can provide some better clarification n pictures to the subtle differences between the years and teh models to help me or anoyone else out in my situation is really appreciated... take care everybody and thanks a ton!! (good pics of some grey ones are preferred for comparison purposes, other colors are also appreciated tho
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