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Old 01-09-2012, 07:48 AM
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i think its stupid too, butt one of my goals for 2012 is not to be a dick on azine.


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^^^ i bet that will last only 3 weeks

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Your car in the near future...

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honestly i couldnt tell what i was looking at in the pics then i read the post, then i looked at the pics again, read the thread title (which made no sense at all), then i re read the post. lol.
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Originally Posted by justnspace
i think its stupid too, butt one of my goals for 2012 is not to be a dick on azine.


Be safe everyone!


Really....promise? It sounds like Swoosh has got money on this one....
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Originally Posted by chinkwapin
honestly i couldnt tell what i was looking at in the pics then i read the post, then i looked at the pics again, read the thread title (which made no sense at all), then i re read the post. lol.
its a country song. "i need a curvin, windin, twistin, dusty path to nowhere, with the wind blowin through my baby's hair"

ps, op, youre dumb, but it takes dedication to be that dumb
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its a country song. "i need a curvin, windin, twistin, dusty path to nowhere, with the wind blowin through my baby's hair"

ps, op, youre dumb, but it takes dedication to be that dumb
"if you're gonna be dumb, you gotta be tough."

or in this case, have a horseshoe stuck up your ass for not causing serious damage to your car/yourself/others.
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Slotted brakes alone won't help much. You would gain more consistent braking from fabricating air ducts to channel air directly over the rotor vanes.

If you are correct about not warping your rotors, I'd say that is a testament to OEM quality. Also, warn us all the next time you are going to do this so we can run inside a concrete bunker.
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Old 01-11-2012, 10:35 AM
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Viper, it obviously looks like too much "curving and winding and twisting"....
lol omg, how many times do i have to say it, after i smelt the burning pads, I did several high speed brakings which was meant to make the rotors glow (and nobody was around for at least 10mile radius)

Originally Posted by veggiemonster
it's scary that this kid is getting applauded by half of you. go to a fucking track, at least there are medics on call.
lol i think this red hot rotor is one of those things that looks dangerous but not THAT scary
It was that glowy cz it was pitch dark with no lighting whatsoever out in the middle of nowhere so... it was only somewhere around 1000F. all my previous cars were fine driving like that,,, lucky 4 times in a row? maybe..... or maybe engineers have that kinda heat in mind when they build cars

AND, it's not that hard to emergency-stop a car without disk brakes if it comes to that. and, i was NOT speeding like crazy (as it looks).


Originally Posted by justnspace

Be safe everyone!



Originally Posted by drummer boy04
Your car in the near future...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k7D2SHDqk1E
you just reminded me of my F3 days lol



Originally Posted by GrwnUpRcer
its a country song. "i need a curvin, windin, twistin, dusty path to nowhere, with the wind blowin through my baby's hair"

ps, op, youre dumb, but it takes dedication to be that dumb
I dnt have a baby but yes. interstates are boring and hypnotizing
and...... um i'll take that as a compliment..
not really, ok.



Originally Posted by SharksBreath
"if you're gonna be dumb, you gotta be tough."

or in this case, have a horseshoe stuck up your ass for not causing serious damage to your car/yourself/others.
lol like i said, it's one of those things that looks too dangerous (i.e. drifting in snow @ 30mph in girls' eyes) but not that dangerous if you know what you're doing

Originally Posted by rmswins
Slotted brakes alone won't help much. You would gain more consistent braking from fabricating air ducts to channel air directly over the rotor vanes.

If you are correct about not warping your rotors, I'd say that is a testament to OEM quality. Also, warn us all the next time you are going to do this so we can run inside a concrete bunker.
Oh rotors are fiiiiine.
I wanted slots cz it would vent the gases and scrap debris off the surface >> little more braking power and little less pad life

SRT(chrysler high performance division) did a good job on air ducts.. never really seen it THAT red (and then again, I didn't realy try either)

and yes, OEM FTW! maybe I should just slot the OE rotors...
as of now, rotors are fine, no crack no warp, just heat scorch marks (without any function-related damage)
I went into dealer for bleeding brakes then tech was " :| your caliper is stuck" lol
I gotta say,,,, for the street, type S calipers are overkill although i want the bigger rotor.

and for the last time, even if the whole gas tak exploded, which is highly unlikely unless i have fluid leaks (and if i DID have fluid leaks and did not know and did that, i deserve to be exploded LOL)
nobody would have ever seen or heard of it so ... no worries.


and thanks everyone for worrying about my idiot ass lol
(no sarcasm, I do appreciate it)

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Old 01-11-2012, 11:01 AM
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OP how old are you?
the wise old age of twenty.
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^^^ wow thats very wise
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so he means his dad's srt8. it all makes sense now.
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Originally Posted by veggiemonster
so he means his dad's srt8. it all makes sense now.
LOL actually he's been on the other side of the planet.. for ummmm 4 yrs now (not military)

his money yes. if that's what you mean. you know, it's surprisingly affordable if you don't shoot for brand new

why can't i edit my own post :| anyway


Originally Posted by veggiemonster
OP how old are you?
someone's not observant enough. it's in my every post.. psh.

and... well


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hah. your charger had over 100 less hp than my last car, and that's just the start of the list of differences. i'm not sure what i would be jealous about????

i wouldn't be surprised if you set your DOB a few years ahead. aside from the picture proof of the rotors, which no adult would ever condone this behavior, i didn't have much proof you actually have a drivers license, which your attitude has suggested.

now, aside from that, asking your age was rhetorical, as the number, how ever small it may be, does not match your maturity. then replying, that makes sense, is obvious because i was being rhetorical, and sharksbreath followed up nicely with a laugh at your expense.

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Old 01-11-2012, 02:52 PM
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Originally Posted by veggiemonster
hah. your charger had over 100 less hp than my last car, and that's just the start of the list of differences. i'm not sure what i would be jealous about????

i wouldn't be surprised if you set your DOB a few years ahead. aside from the picture proof of the rotors, which no adult would ever condone this behavior, i didn't have much proof you actually have a drivers license, which your attitude has suggested.

now, aside from that, asking your age was rhetorical, as the number, how ever small it may be, does not match your maturity. then replying, that makes sense, is obvious because i was being rhetorical, and sharksbreath followed up nicely with a laugh at your expense.

LOL you think red hot rotors are dangerous? well your "extra over 100hp" was worthless as $hit lol usually 200 is enough to make them hot.
Dyno-queen, bragging rights, i see. nothing wrong with that. just different usage of ponies under the hood
(and if you didn't know, it's glowy cz it's dark. I can't get it glowing like the race car in the daylight, hence why I took the pic in the dark)


I can bring a truckful of adults who would do that including univ prof, doctor, lawyer, student, restaurant owner, normal salary worker,, etc.

and MY behavior? LOL I was just kidding with the other guy who posted "U MAD BRO?"
Originally Posted by veggiemonster
OP, gimme your contact info so i can send your family flowers when you die.

this is dumb as fucking shit.
now THAT ^ is not just kidding
you're very worthy of the extra 3 years you have on me

please do not speak without basic knowledge of material engineering, thermodynamics, etc etc etc.
and if you would, please do explain how possibly that can be dangerous?
(fyi, that much molecular kinetic energy from that distance to the fuel line is not gonna ignite it)

PS, start your own darn thread if you're gonna rant about something that's remotely scientifically true.

and...... who said it was a charger, Mr. Assumption? :P

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come on guys....ur ruining the fun
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must resist.....must resist....must resist.....

biting tongue....biting tongue.....biting tongue......

keep the fun going though!
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Hey, swoosh!

you're on!
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Originally Posted by vill0169
must resist.....must resist....must resist.....

biting tongue....biting tongue.....biting tongue......

keep the fun going though!

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Originally Posted by 4drviper
LOL you think red hot rotors are dangerous? well your "extra over 100hp" was worthless as $hit lol usually 200 is enough to make them hot.
Dyno-queen, bragging rights, i see. nothing wrong with that. just different usage of ponies under the hood
(and if you didn't know, it's glowy cz it's dark. I can't get it glowing like the race car in the daylight, hence why I took the pic in the dark) (please stop trying)


I can bring a truckful of adults(debatable) who would do that including univ prof, doctor, lawyer, student, restaurant owner, normal salary worker,, etc.

and MY behavior? LOL I was just kidding with the other guy who posted "U MAD BRO?"

now THAT ^ is not just kidding (no its not, i really will feel bad for you when your luck runs out. i can tell you a story about a kid who died on my last forum, he sounded just like you and argued with people about safety when it came to brakes. let me repeat myself, he died in a car accident)
you're very worthy of the extra 3 years you have on me

please do not speak without basic knowledge of material engineering, thermodynamics, etc etc etc.
and if you would, please do explain how possibly that can be dangerous?
(fyi, that much molecular kinetic energy from that distance to the fuel line is not gonna ignite it)

PS, start your own darn thread if you're gonna rant about something that's remotely scientifically true.

and...... who said it was a charger, Mr. Assumption? :P (oops, a 300. holy shit thats insanely different)
i've designed a car. i placed top 20 in a national competition, and received a perfect score for my CAD and model(the only one out of 450 teams that year), from industry engineers in Detroit. when i was 16 years old. in 7 years i've learned a lot more than i knew then, and real life experiences, not reading the internet.

a 450/475 all-wheel hp/tq respectively is not a dyno queen.

no one expects you to light a fuel line on fire, you don't have a fucking airplane. the heat doesn't sit below the lines.

did you miss the part where $15k carbon kevlar brake setups explode at 950 degrees? you're claiming 1k degrees. right. at what point did i ever try to destroy my brakes? oh wait, never.

i have done some wreckless shit in my day. but not in a stock automatic TL. that is dangerous. your rotors are heat scored, and therefore are glazed, and furthermore are ready to shatter now. the more you do shit like this the more dangerous it is.

how can you come here, talk about scoring, and vapor lock, and then pretend you know enough as an 'engineer' to inspire false confidence's to this board? you were on the verge of a major failure, and are lucky.

but wait. it looks like you are a repeat offender of this.
Originally Posted by 4drviper
have you ever been successful lighting a cig with your red-hot rotor?

I don't smoke but I have.. LOL trying to mountain race a 4000lbs family sedan with a 14inch rotor.

but if you haven't,
then go buy whatever's cheapest.
(that excludes made in china btw lol)
good luck i guess, as said earlier, you have to be tough to be stupid.

also, bedding is in the beginning. taking used rotors and throwing them on, that's not bedding. just abusing the brakes.

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remember, arguing on the internet is like winning the special olympics.
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Originally Posted by justnspace
remember, arguing on the internet is like winning the special olympics.
unlike last time, i don't plan to feel bad when/if he dies. knowing i might have been able to show him how dangerous he was being.
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Originally Posted by 4drviper

I can bring a truckful of adults who would do that including univ prof, doctor, lawyer, student, restaurant owner, normal salary worker,, etc.

I'm calling bullshit...


OP's brake fluid of choice.....


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and just incase OP needs proof of my little story.

http://www.audizine.com/forum/showth...light=newbies4

to quote myself from over there
Originally Posted by veggiemonster
so when he disappeared and we were all happy it was because he died?

damn. now i feel like a douche.
and he took his 16 year old girlfriend with him.
http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg...&GRid=52445186

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As I've done with the couple other AZ'ers that have passed on, I have deactivated his account and changed the status to RIP.
that's the forum founder. i'm sure the mods here don't want to do this for you.

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so i assume you have the type s calipers and oem 12.2" rotors? what brake fluid? i hope you have some high performance fluid otherwise it would have been boiled.
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Originally Posted by veggiemonster
did you miss the part where $15k carbon kevlar brake setups explode at 950 degrees? you're claiming 1k degrees. right. at what point did i ever try to destroy my brakes? oh wait, never.
I'm sorry, but you need to stop touting this particular event as proof if you're going to talk about carbon brakes exploding.

The example you used was a Corvette C6R whose front brake failed after 9 hours of continuous use at Sebring back in 2005. What you seem to be missing is that that car doesn't have carbon brakes, it has steel.
Fehan: "The production ZR1 has ceramic brakes, which we would love to use in the race cars. However, the series requires steel brakes to help contain cost."

Louth: "Early in the GT1 program we ran steel brakes in the 24-hour Daytona race, so we did have some previous experience. We also received excellent information from our brake and pad suppliers, and input from GM's other racing programs. Initially there was some concern about the switch from carbon to steel brakes, but in the end the braking performance is actually very good. Steel brakes don't produce the absolute stopping power of carbon brakes, but the braking performance - repeatability, consistency and driver feel - hit our targets in fairly short order.
Which to this day, can obviously last long enough to sustain 24 hours of use.

Carbon Ceramics are capable of up to 1800 degrees F, & can dispense heat the quick enough without any issue.
These special rotors tend to heat up and to cool off faster than iron ones by virtue of the material itself. The material characteristics are truly impressive. Because this material has less than one-third of iron’s density, and only 40 percent of iron’s heat conductivity, the heat accumulation in a CCM rotor is far lower, yielding tremendous brake efficiency. Using these brakes aggressively can cause their temperature to rise as high as 1000 degrees Celsius or 1800 degrees Fahrenheit. This is comparable to hot lava. One can sometimes see glowing hot brake discs during races on cars that use this type of system showing how hard they are used. But, not to worry because they can disperse the heat before it even reaches the brake fluid. Frequent and heavy braking from high speeds is effectively achieved for longer periods. Yes, the material is known by engineers as capable of withstanding these temperatures without breaking down or degrading.
This is from Brembo who supply the carbon ceramics to Ferrari, Porsche, & so forth.

The only configuration that allows this performance at the moment is a brake disc/caliper combination of carbon fibre. Its crude performance creates fast decelerations while its low density keeps the weight per disc below 1 kg. Furthermore, its capacity to take on and dissipate heat provides unequalled longevity: even when heated to over 1000°C prior to cornering, about 800 times per race, the carbon-fibre will last for the duration of a Grand Prix event without complaint.
This is from Formula 1. And those carbon ceramics on the Ferrari in the video are based directly off the brakes from Ferrari's Formula 1 cars. So any car with brakes like that 599XX are not going to explode at 900 degrees.

Even Bugatti has proven the durability of CCM.
The Veyron’s carbon ceramics brakes have to withstand surface temperatures of 1,100°C during the overload test
Take note that I am not siding with the OP; the brakes in our cars are definitely not built to take the abuse he gave his car. However, if you are going to correct him on brake technology & bring up Carbon Ceramic to prove your point about brake failure, you need to make sure your own info is correct.
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^^^ Rick cant go go thro a thread without picking an argument with some/any one ? and the thread ends up getting closed....

just relax at times and enjoy 2 people going back and forth....its a lot of fun believe me....
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Originally Posted by swoosh
^^^ Rick cant go go thro a thread without picking an argument with some/any one ? and the thread ends up getting closed....
I haven't done anything but correct misinformation. So, what argument am I picking?

With that, welcome to the ignore list.
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ohhhh i have been ignored by Rick.....what am i gonna do now, am gonna be lonely forever
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Sigh.......


.....and we we doing so good about being civil in 2012......


Come on guys.....really?
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^^^ hahahah.....only if NIKE starts paying me LOL
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perfect. make my example have more weight through your correction.

9 hours of racing, vs who knows how many miles on a rotor half the size. they aren't as different as you would think.
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did the world come to an end?
is justnspace being nice?
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^^^ hahaha bro its only been 2 weeks LMAO.....13 days to be exact


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