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Old 10-16-2008, 06:52 PM
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Angel Eyes / ZKW mod complete

For a second time, I've gone back into my headlights. I've told myself the 1st time I would never open them back up again. With my cousin's recent purchase of a 2008 TL-S, he's convinced me to do otherwise as he needed help to clear/black out his headlights. I wasn't about to open another set without opening my own as that little part inside me still wanted ZKW replicas and Phillips 85122+ bulbs. With that said, take a look:










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Looks very nice
Got any more night shots of the headlight beam after the mod?
The more I see angel eyes the more I want to add some to my TL.
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damn blin, that looks hot. The first picture makes it seem as if it was painted on.
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Those are nice, I like how you can see the reflection of the light in the projector.
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looks nice for the ZKW's did you have to open up the headlight or is it possible to do it without opening them up, by just unscrewing the projector? Also it looks like your neighbors loved the rims on your TL they got them for their car
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Originally Posted by csmeance
looks nice for the ZKW's did you have to open up the headlight or is it possible to do it without opening them up, by just unscrewing the projector? Also it looks like your neighbors loved the rims on your TL they got them for their car
Those rims(17x7 Mille Miglia Action Sport) on the Mazda used to be on my Integra and I gave them to my girlfriend when I picked up the TL. Yes, you do have to take apart the housing to do the ZKW Replica lens swap. You also have to cut out cereal box cardboard spacers to shim between the ZKW replica and the projector bowl to get the focus/cutoff sharp. The right one could have been a little better but there is no way I'm going back in.

When I get better/more clear night shots actually firing into the road, I'll post them. I re-aimed them last night using the standard 25ft from wall protocol where the left kick(aka lower cutoff line) is 2" below the distance between the center of the projector ball measured from the ground up. Hopefully this weekend I'll have a chance to take more night shots. The color of the Phillips 85122+ bulbs are very white but put down 3400 lumens vs. stock osram 2800 lumens after 100+ hours of use while colorshifting to blue.

Here are overexposed iphone pictures I took while waiting for my pizza to be down in the parking lot:

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looks good.
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Originally Posted by binhsterbinh
For a second time, I've gone back into my headlights. I've told myself the 1st time I would never open them back up again. With my cousin's recent purchase of a 2008 TL-S, he's convinced me to do otherwise as he needed help to clear/black out his headlights. I wasn't about to open another set without opening my own as that little part inside me still wanted ZKW replicas and Phillips 85122+ bulbs. With that said, take a look:










binhsterbinh where in WA are you? I am in Oregon. I totally love the look of your lights! Would you be interested in helping me to do mine? I am kinda scared to do it cause I dont wanna screw it up.
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where did you get the replicas from?

I did ZKW rep's on my neighbors car, and they literally, just dropped in... didnt need to make a mold or anything... you just opened the metal bracket over the projector, took out the old lense, and put the new one in !! was pretty damn easy actually
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looks good man
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Nice!
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nice job binh! looks great. where ya been these days? i rarely see you around anymore. hope you're doing well
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oh and may i ask where you purchased the halo set?
Old 10-17-2008, 02:38 AM
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woah makes me wanna put projectors on my spare set of headlights and put some halos in them haha... i guess eric wants to do them too since he has to reopen his headlights and clean them up a bit..
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lol i got a homie named binh n we call him binsterbinh. nice car though
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Originally Posted by BLACKURA_NY
where did you get the replicas from?

I did ZKW rep's on my neighbors car, and they literally, just dropped in... didnt need to make a mold or anything... you just opened the metal bracket over the projector, took out the old lense, and put the new one in !! was pretty damn easy actually
So ZKW Replicas came from the retrofit source. Depending on the projector, sometimes you'll be able to get away with no spacer. Other times you won't. Its quite simple to make spacers. It felt like I was in elementary school again with the cutouts and tracing. I tested without spacers and the cutoff had a band of purple 3" wide from a distance at the top of the cutoff. I tested with 2 cereal box spacers and got a yellow band at top. At 1 spacer per projector, the cutoff was razor sharp with no bands. HIDPLANET forums is a good place to find answers regarding TL/ZKW swaps. TL/ZKW is one of the most sought after headlight combos for the gurus out there as it offers bi-xenon option. A TL lowbeam without ZKW is decent to good but still below par compared to the TSX, S2000...etc which all have clear lenses instead of fresnel.

Erick, I've just been working these days I guess. If you're going to take apart your housing again, don't forget the Halo Eyes (ultimizza), ZKW replicas, and Phillips 85122+ bulbs. Go big or go home. The process took us 14 hours keeping patience and care in mind. You should do a group clearing again so those that are interested can do theirs too.
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Originally Posted by binhsterbinh
You should do a group clearing again so those that are interested can do theirs too.
Awesome idea! You could count me in!
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Originally Posted by binhsterbinh
So ZKW Replicas came from the retrofit source. Depending on the projector, sometimes you'll be able to get away with no spacer. Other times you won't. Its quite simple to make spacers. It felt like I was in elementary school again with the cutouts and tracing. I tested without spacers and the cutoff had a band of purple 3" wide from a distance at the top of the cutoff. I tested with 2 cereal box spacers and got a yellow band at top. At 1 spacer per projector, the cutoff was razor sharp with no bands. HIDPLANET forums is a good place to find answers regarding TL/ZKW swaps. TL/ZKW is one of the most sought after headlight combos for the gurus out there as it offers bi-xenon option. A TL lowbeam without ZKW is decent to good but still below par compared to the TSX, S2000...etc which all have clear lenses instead of fresnel.

Erick, I've just been working these days I guess. If you're going to take apart your housing again, don't forget the Halo Eyes (ultimizza), ZKW replicas, and Phillips 85122+ bulbs. Go big or go home. The process took us 14 hours keeping patience and care in mind. You should do a group clearing again so those that are interested can do theirs too.
HAHAHAAH Eric doesnt have patience... he was in a rush when he was clearing his headlights lmao...
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Originally Posted by binhsterbinh
.......don't forget the Halo Eyes (ultimizza), ZKW replicas, and Phillips 85122+ bulbs. Go big or go home.
hehe..why didn't you get the REAL zkw lens instead?
Old 10-17-2008, 08:31 PM
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Originally Posted by lights
hehe..why didn't you get the REAL zkw lens instead?
Valid point. I'm cheap. Perhaps $69 shipped for the ZKW replica at 1/4 the cost of the real ZKW convinced me otherwise. Yeah I mean I like good lighting, but not enough to drop any more than the $225 that I've already spent so far. Real ZKW is the way to go for the true enthusiast, but its been proven that the replicas get close.
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I also swapped to the ZKW replicas. Well worth it for the money.
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As promised, below are the night shots I got from my Canon SD630 on ISO800 with flash off. This is probably not 56k friendly. All pictures were taken out of my sunroof and there were no street lamps nearby.









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Originally Posted by binhsterbinh
Valid point. I'm cheap. Perhaps $69 shipped for the ZKW replica at 1/4 the cost of the real ZKW convinced me otherwise. Yeah I mean I like good lighting, but not enough to drop any more than the $225 that I've already spent so far. Real ZKW is the way to go for the true enthusiast, but its been proven that the replicas get close.
haha...i'm just playing with you on that "go big or go home" comment from someone who just admitted being cheap. lol

go check out my thread for real zkw cut off.
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I love they turned out. I have the same halo kit for my car and i cant wait to put then on. Especially since ive been waiting to get them installed for about 2 months now.
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Originally Posted by lights
haha...i'm just playing with you on that "go big or go home" comment from someone who just admitted being cheap. lol

go check out my thread for real zkw cut off.

Agree with both of you.

Real > Replicas

Even though I love the real ones and those are ones I have in my own TL and also my 2G TL retrofit but replicas are not that far off either, especially when you take into account the fact that a set can be had for $60.

I paid upwards of 300 for the real ones when the combo was first discovered in 06 and thats what ChicoOG paid, who btw was the first TL owner on the board to use the real ZKWs. Since the replicas have been out they have driven the cost of the real ones down as well, a set can be had for $150~200 these days.

Pictures look great, did you use any spacers or modified the shield? All the replicas behave differently, most of them need a slight tweaking of the cut of shield or a spacer and sometimes both to get a perfect sharp cut off.
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Originally Posted by JnC
Agree with both of you.

Real > Replicas

Even though I love the real ones and those are ones I have in my own TL and also my 2G TL retrofit but replicas are not that far off either, especially when you take into account the fact that a set can be had for $60.

I paid upwards of 300 for the real ones when the combo was first discovered in 06 and thats what ChicoOG paid, who btw was the first TL owner on the board to use the real ZKWs. Since the replicas have been out they have driven the cost of the real ones down as well, a set can be had for $150~200 these days.

Pictures look great, did you use any spacers or modified the shield? All the replicas behave differently, most of them need a slight tweaking of the cut of shield or a spacer and sometimes both to get a perfect sharp cut off.
I used a fruit loop box to cut out the circle ring spacers between the ZKW replica and the bowl. 1 spacer created a straight cutoff. I don't trust myself touching the shield so I left that alone. Overall, I'm pretty happy with them. It's a shame the 2009 TL has no more Bi-xenon but good for us I guess.
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binh, mind sharing some insight onto how you installed the angel eyes? i'll most likely do that, and that alone - i don't mind the stock lighting how'd you manage the wiring for it all? Thanks

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Originally Posted by erick3
binh, mind sharing some insight onto how you installed the angel eyes? i'll most likely do that, and that alone - i don't mind the stock lighting how'd you manage the wiring for it all? Thanks

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Here you go:

https://acurazine.com/forums/showthr...=625556&page=8

https://acurazine.com/forums/showthr...iy+eyes&page=2
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damn im actually lookin at this mod 2 do, just dont kno if i want replicas or real

if i want the real ones wat yr bmw 3series do i need?
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