XLR8 Engine Torque Damper: '04-'08 TL Manual
#82
Safety Car
nonono i took it apart because i saw the thread on it coming it apart, so to be 100% sure of the work at the end of the day i threw some blue goop on there so i dont have to go back n work on it again.
#85
Safety Car
yea that woulda prob worked.....i have an ingalls one and i dont know if it works but it looks flawless.....but i still got the nrg one just cuz it was brand new
#87
Safety Car
sooo i was talking to someone on the forum about the ingalls damper i have...... so I did a comparison. i swapped from nrg to ingalls and set the damper how i like it....next i take the car for a run....come back take the ingalls out n install the nrg.
sooo then before i installed the nrg back in, i took both dampers apart n checked the insides....the one thing that is better on the ingalls is that it has a 1 piece shaft not 2 like the nrg that supports the bushings... but that really doesnt even effect the performance of it so who cares right?, right. well... the bushings on the NRG are thicker and have no signs of stress....the ingalls after a few hits on the gas and shifts... it felt fatigued and also showed stress marks on this waxy layer they put on the ingalls bushings..... the nrg??? nothing what so ever.
sooo then before i installed the nrg back in, i took both dampers apart n checked the insides....the one thing that is better on the ingalls is that it has a 1 piece shaft not 2 like the nrg that supports the bushings... but that really doesnt even effect the performance of it so who cares right?, right. well... the bushings on the NRG are thicker and have no signs of stress....the ingalls after a few hits on the gas and shifts... it felt fatigued and also showed stress marks on this waxy layer they put on the ingalls bushings..... the nrg??? nothing what so ever.
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#90
Three Wheelin'
Let me put it this way, I immediately loved this mod from the moment I backed up off the ramps on my driveway after install. The car felt solid right away, I didn't have to bounce the rpms as much to get going like before, all I have to do now is ease off the clutch and give just a little gas. And thats my experience just from moving just a couple feet here, image how the rest of your driving experience will improve
#92
does anyone with this damper have a bit more vibration than previously between 1000-2500rpm? its not so much a vibration maybe as much as a noise? tough to describe. its a low bassy tone like you're lugging the motor (but 1000rpm in first gear isnt lugging on a flat surface). i've had this condition since the day i installed the damper. not a complaint in the least, so don't read this the wrong way.
well today, about half way home from work i was at 2000rpm in 3rd and 4th gear through slower moving traffic and no 'vibration'...i have no way of looking under the car until tomorrow but i'm hoping i'm just used to it or something but the motor feels sloppy again....hope its all in my head. will check tomorrow....otherwise this is a decent mod for the money and super easy installation.. but i WILL be getting motor mounts next because the car is still sloppy in my opinion, and i don't do burnouts or slam gears or anything like that, i just want my car more civil in stop and go traffic.
well today, about half way home from work i was at 2000rpm in 3rd and 4th gear through slower moving traffic and no 'vibration'...i have no way of looking under the car until tomorrow but i'm hoping i'm just used to it or something but the motor feels sloppy again....hope its all in my head. will check tomorrow....otherwise this is a decent mod for the money and super easy installation.. but i WILL be getting motor mounts next because the car is still sloppy in my opinion, and i don't do burnouts or slam gears or anything like that, i just want my car more civil in stop and go traffic.
#93
Safety Car
i have the modified mounts...so noise is jus part of it....even the low tone...so that doesnt help...bu i tighten the damper pulling down on the motor if that helps any....the stock motor mounts dont break from being pushed down they break from being extended away from the base passed its expansion point..... or at least thats how it feels when u push down on the clutch at high rpms switching gears... going forward....if u were going in reverse in more than one gear then we'd have dampers on the front mount too. so if the damper pulls down a bit on the motor it wont let the rear mount stretch passed its point in both directions down or up. itll stiffen it up a bit n give it that planted feeling as u accelerate.
#95
i have the modified mounts...so noise is jus part of it....even the low tone...so that doesnt help...bu i tighten the damper pulling down on the motor if that helps any....the stock motor mounts dont break from being pushed down they break from being extended away from the base passed its expansion point..... or at least thats how it feels when u push down on the clutch at high rpms switching gears... going forward....if u were going in reverse in more than one gear then we'd have dampers on the front mount too. so if the damper pulls down a bit on the motor it wont let the rear mount stretch passed its point in both directions down or up. itll stiffen it up a bit n give it that planted feeling as u accelerate.
as far as noise goes, i don't mind the noise or vibration at all, i'm just annoyed that it suddenly feels like it did before the damper. hope its all in my head. will post results later when i find out what happened.
#97
i'm NOT getting the vibration anymore which was the first thing that made me think something was wrong..then it felt sloppy.. hoping something easy came apart. the only thing i really care about is the cast aluminum bolt hole on the block. we'll see around 5pm when my car gets on the lift.
#99
i am so smart S M R T
#101
Three Wheelin'
I didn't loctite at all, and have had no problems these past 2 months..
It's not critical, but doesn't hurt doing to do it either.
I guess it varies depending on the driver or engine mounts
It's not critical, but doesn't hurt doing to do it either.
I guess it varies depending on the driver or engine mounts
#104
-------Tim-------
I think from what I have read this will work for 5AT! You just need to buy an additional bracket that mounts to the engine(I believe)so that the dampner can attach to that bracket. I asked a couple pages back if any auto's have done this yet, no response. And I am also unsure of what part needs to be ordered to make this work, cause I am def. looking to get one.
#105
Three Wheelin'
The only additional part an auto needs to make it work is #4:
http://www.acuraautomotiveparts.org/...s=&view=normal
P/N: 50610-SEP-A10 BRACKET, RR. ENGINE MOUNTING (MT)
Then you're good to go.
http://www.acuraautomotiveparts.org/...s=&view=normal
P/N: 50610-SEP-A10 BRACKET, RR. ENGINE MOUNTING (MT)
Then you're good to go.
#106
Safety Car
yea u need the manual tranny rear motor mount bracket...then its easy install.....I have the 62a ones and they feel ok but i want the 75....im expecting them whenever josh gets em. plus i ordered more poly bushings for the damper because i blew the red ones ....when i put the damper back in i didnt tighten down all of its points and it shifted incorrectly and blew one of the red ones and slightly warped the other....ill post pics tomorrow.....but the softer black ones feel nice too a lil too soft for me but they feel ok.
#108
-------Tim-------
The only additional part an auto needs to make it work is #4:
http://www.acuraautomotiveparts.org/...s=&view=normal
P/N: 50610-SEP-A10 BRACKET, RR. ENGINE MOUNTING (MT)
Then you're good to go.
http://www.acuraautomotiveparts.org/...s=&view=normal
P/N: 50610-SEP-A10 BRACKET, RR. ENGINE MOUNTING (MT)
Then you're good to go.
#112
finally had a change to get my car on the lift at work today, looks like the bottom section of the torque damper backed out. based on what i can see, that part is only like 2 full threads in. there doesn't seem to be another way to lengthen the whole torque damper....its back together now without any loctite or extra tightening so i'm sure it'll come apart again over the next few days. next week when i have more time i'll take the whole thing completely apart and start over. the last thing i want to do is pre-load the motor and install the damper and have the tab on the block crack from the load....am i being too cautious?
#113
Middle Finger anyone?
iTrader: (9)
I put the damper on my car straight out of the box and two weeks later it felt sloppy again. I took it apart and on the inside the threads on the shaft were loose causing some play. I tightened it with some red loctite and I haven't had another problem since. It's been awhile.
I don't understand the pre-loading the motor thing? Please explain? Are you pushing the motor towards the front a little and then tightening the damper?
I don't understand the pre-loading the motor thing? Please explain? Are you pushing the motor towards the front a little and then tightening the damper?
#114
I put the damper on my car straight out of the box and two weeks later it felt sloppy again. I took it apart and on the inside the threads on the shaft were loose causing some play. I tightened it with some red loctite and I haven't had another problem since. It's been awhile.
I don't understand the pre-loading the motor thing? Please explain? Are you pushing the motor towards the front a little and then tightening the damper?
I don't understand the pre-loading the motor thing? Please explain? Are you pushing the motor towards the front a little and then tightening the damper?
#116
Safety Car
the whole preload is to keep the motor in virtually its standard position without movement to the back....or u can pull it back.....ive tried both....but im waiting on some parts right now so i dont wanna start testing too much.
#118
Middle Finger anyone?
iTrader: (9)
What would yield the best result is a solid bar instead of the damper. But your car would be vibrating alot. But your motor won't move forwards or backwards. I wonder what would happen if this was done on stock motor mounts? How well would this react to the stock mushy mounts? Would the stock mounts wear out quicker?
#119
Safety Car
the motor gets thrown forward when u smash the clutch going for the next gear so my thought on it is keep it pulled down. but now the keep it forward sounds good too.....it feels good being held down because the gear seems to engage faster, either way when i get new red bushings ill push it up and see how it feels