KpMeth

It inscreases MPG a lil bit... It gives car little more power... sounds awesome (well for most of us..not everyone i guess)

WHY not?

because, it harms the engine?? dun think so..?

princelybug

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Some people don't want/need the extra power. Some people don't want the extra noise. Also, the manufacturers probably don't want to pay for the extra possible costs, or be liable for any type of possible negative consequences stemming from a CAI? Just my .

TL1999

+1

Fulani has a TL

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The SLIGHT possibility of Hydrolocking and then having to pay for it. Cuz there are idiots out there who would drive through a flooded road!

flydog

Probably because other than making a lot more noise it doesnt make any noticeable difference in gas mileage or power. No car manufacturer is dumb enough to use aluminum for an intake because it is the best heatsink known to man (the reason it is used in radiators and the reason why CAI manufacturers do dyno runs with the hood open).

Another reason is because it is a pain in the ass to change the filter. And of course the water problem. Next time you go through an automatic car wash look down between the battery at the filter.

FiveLiterCheater

I thought copper was better at dissipating heat than aluminum? or maybe i have it reversed

vinnier6

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its called the epa....

Fulani has a TL

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Just thought I would correct you just a little bit. But in terms of metals for heat dissipation Silver is the best, Copper second, followed by Aluminum

In terms of water getting to the filter, the filter gets such minimal amounts that it does not cause for any problems. Only thing with CAI is that it is mounted lower to the ground, thus a higher chance of hydrolocking if you drive through a flood or high level of water.

But I dont take my car through car washes, so no water to look for

Edit: Reason why CAI manufacturers use aluminum is because its lightweight, and cheaper metal than copper

stillhere153

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mmmh I think the op is on to something

nissan/infiniti has NISMO

honda/acura has ... well... nothing... aspec and the honda hfp I think it is called is only lip kit and rims... struts and springs...


ps. likely hood of hydrolocking in a car wash... not likely...

blue.fired

Most people do not want the power or the noise
It might open up several issues of liability i guess.

08WDP

Honda actually have Mugen, but not alot of cars from Honda/Acura uses Mugen as a OEM accessories. ex: Mugen Civic Si.

erick3

reliability for one, and probably the most important reason of all is liability. image if you went through a puddle and caused 6000 bones worth of damage to your engine...you KNOW that you wouldn't be pretty up at the dealership! hahah

stillhere153

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hate to break this story to you... but mugen didn't make the parts on that car thus why there were no engine modifications OF ANY KIND

why can't we have honmo (honda motorsports) <- or acumo (acura motorsports)... or maybe honacumo (honda acura motorsports) <- hahahahahaha

a-spec
hfp

wth is "honda factory performance" anyway if nothing is performance about it

dr_brains510

^^^the "honmo" sounds really funny

01tl4tl

If you have seen the pure speed at which cars are assembled- and every part of them is designed for ease of assembly- not ease of working on later~ thats for sure
Its far better for them to put a standard airbox that fits 100 other cars (saves money)

It also allows for a performance aftermarket-
which in some cases is a R&D facility linked to the car maker-- working with race teams covertly--that technology and testing gets back to the production cars too.
if your car came tricked out- look how many people would be out of a job- designing, testing, selling all those parts to you!

flydog

My point is that when someone wants a material to use as a heatsink they use aluminum, rather than plastic. The heatsink on the Intel chip in your computer is not made of plastic, it is made of aluminum. If it was made of plastic, your chip wouldnt last more than an hour.

Of course somewhere on the planet there is some metal that is better than aluminum. But no one is going to build copper or silver radiators for some pretty common-sense reasons, and those would have made pretty silly examples and thus not relevant to this discussion.

NedShneebly

Big Acura Service thinks CAI's are evil. Read the article on MIL codes near the end of the March 2008 Acura TSB http://www.in.honda.com/Rjanisis/pubs/SN/B080300.PDF

jdmitr22

didnt it have mugen sports muffler?

dmb4325

Okay, I can agree on the noise, but people dont want the power? People dont buy mercedes AMGs because they have too much power, they dont buy them cause they dont want to spend 100K. I never have really met someone that doesnt want the extra power and if I did i would tell them to trade their TL in for a Honda Fit, cause there is no reason to waste the extra gas on a V6, get the smallest tic tac engine you can find, that shouldnt have too much power

Bearcat94

While I can imagine this could apply to other models, it must be a more common problem on the RDX/MDX, hence the Service News Article directed to those vehicles.

anx1300c

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Dude, we (people on this site) are the minority when it comes to the TL. If the primary factor for buying a TL was performance, then there would've been more than 3 6 spd. base models sold for every 97 5AT models from 04-06. And I've never heard another TL aside from mine with a CAI, in person. All I ever see driving them are middle aged people putting around. People buy the TL because it's an entry level Lux car with great amenities and reliability, so the Honda Fit analogy holds no water.

ankur914

Honmo.....Ahhhh I can see it now, all the audi, bmw, nissan/infinti owners pointing at us in their wouldbe childish ways screaming "Honmo Homo! Honmo Homo! Na na na na!"

flydog