ThinJim

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your smokin crack, and everyone else is getting the second hand crack smoke...not to mention the smell of poop.

speedbawlinTL

but honestly, no need to be a negative nancy give the guy a chance

k24em2

So you think it isn't possible?

JOES05tl

ah jeeze. If my memory serves me correctly, Thinjim put down 464 to the wheels on dynojets... with a single gt35r, I think. I hope he isnt right!

JOES05tl

btw, anybody know about 'thicker head gaskets' to lower compression??? Most f/i s2000's do this, why dont we?

TurboSam

seriously, anyone with a fab shop and a knowledge or turbos with a TL to use should have zero problems fabbing this, and honestly, i cant see where the 7k price tag is coming from, unless the thing includes a standalone engine management, an also, how can you know its going to be a TT setup and have no idea what size turbos you will be using?? i would thing that should be one of the first concerns here. MAP THE COMPRESSOR and make sure it would make effecient power on a TL. this all sounds like a pip dream from someone who doesnt have enough knowledge to build a production kit.

speedbawlinTL

I mean I don't know what impression you're getting, but it seems to me he's got a company working on developing something and that it's not just an individual member thinking, "Man, it'd be nice to have a turbo 3G..." kind of a thing

ACCURATEin

The best bet for you with your 2nd gen TL would be to contact Mahdavi Motorsports out of Georgia. They have a turbo kit for the 2nd gen CL which will solve your dreams and make you sleep better at night. I have a picture of the engine bay if you want to see it.

mishar

Try GT2860RS twins. They would be enough for 400+HP with about 14 psi boost. You just need to change pistons, connecting rods and clutch. Of course that engine management, hooking it up with drive by wire, turbos, and vtec is easy. Good luck.

speedbawlinTL

well I don't mind giving them my car if that's what it takes to convert my car to a turbo... I know I'm being a little over-anxious and way too suggestive and entusiastic, but I'd love to give up my car for however long is necessary for R&D if it means I eventually got a turbo out of it and it led to the creation of a 2G bolt-on (plus, my dealership just hooked me up with a brand new ecu, so I'd say it's essentially the next best thing to an ecu flash the faster I get my car to a manufacturer, the better)

k24em2

We know the general size of the turbo. The exact model has yet to be determined. $7000 is not unreasonable for what the kit entails. Thanks for your wonderful input on this topic.

Mishar, the GT2860 is an option we are looking at.

MichaelBenz

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Ah...this is the 3G Forum? When did we flip flop and start talking about 2G stuff in the 3G forum.

speedbawlinTL

I was pullin a John Kerry on you all... jk... I was just being over-eager for a moment and whoring my car out... sorry to hijack

ACTROS

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^I say there is nothing wrong with whoring you car for a good cause and common good, just don't go any further, you know what I mean... haha

If it was up to me I'd turbo everything and anything if I could, everything is just too damn slow or maybe it's just me moving too fast, haha!

K24em2 I hope you are serious, don't let us down brother and good luck!

chirik

I know, but ... TRUTH HURTS when you realize that with your supercharger kit and all invested in TL you cannot match factory 335i performance (both power and handling). And TL warranty is GONE

JOES05tl

chirik, go get a 335i and stop posting here!

chirik

You're a MORON. I'm still driving a TL and NOT trolling here . We are discussing the difference what FI on TL can lead to. If you have nothing constructive to say, then STFU

TurboSam

then what all does the kit entail? so far ive just seen "well we arent sure, but it might be this" kind of statements. 7k might not be bad as long as u dont come out with a kit running check valves and an FMU. and on another note, usually a large part of production cost is the manifold itself, and since we arent dealing with your typical head design here, the "turbo manifold" really wont be much more than a piece of pipe with some flanges on it, correct? i would hope with what you will be saving on not having to design an effecient collector, you would be using for a standalone engine management, but then again, that keeps the kit from being bolt on and requiring the car to be tuned, not that that is bad, however it isnt feasible for some people.

look man, im not trying to say you cant do it, im just saying it doesnt sound like you have all your bases covered. you kinda have a general idea, yes, but you are still way up in the air on how everything is going to work out

oh, an ACURATEin.... didnt GReddy release a TT kit for the 350z when it first came out? its been a while, im not sure... (oh, and also, my boy sees ur car at school a lot, he drives the teal DC2 with the Mugen wing and gold wheels)

k24em2

That is correct, we do not need to design a fancy turbo manifold for these cars.

Here is the current BOM.

(2) GT25
(2) Manifold Adaptors
Charge Piping
Intake Piping
Air Filter/Intake Air Box
T Bolt Clamps
Silicone Couplers
Laminova Air to Water Intercooler (Or Similar)
Intercooler Water Tank
Intecooler Water Pump
Intercooler Front Heat Exchanger
Oil Pan With Preinstalled Drain Fittings
Oil Cooler (MT Only, AT Optional)
AT Cooler (AT Only)
AN Fittings and Hose for Coolers, Intercooler, and Oil
(2) 12" Slim Fans For Radiator And Necessary Wiring
Brackets and Mounts
Assorted Bolts
Blow Off Valve (TiAl, Others available upon request)
304 Stainless Downpipes and Y Pipe with V-Band Connections
Complete 304 Stainless Cat-Back Exhaust System With Quad Tips (Optional)
Fuel Injectors
Fuel Pump
Battery Relocation Hardware
Boost Gauge
All Necessary Gaskets
Instruction Manual and Installation DVD

At this point the early 2008 release date is unchanged.

Laxplaya11385

oooh man...that sounds so pretty hahaha.

keepin_it_clean

what about the ECU?

ACCURATEin

...You work at Fletcher Acura right? My friend Sharif has the greddy kit on his Z, and my other friend is having one installed on his and will be done this friday...i wonder if the Greddy TT kit was released before a single turbo kit for the Z's...thats a good question. And i've seen that teal DC2 that sucker is badass..was wondering who the driver is..Tell him i said its looks real good.

speedbawlinTL

yo, check this out https://acurazine.com/forums/showthread.php?t=157013... any relation to what you're doing k24em2?

k24em2

I am still exploring various options for ECU.

Yea I saw that TT Element earlier. I don't think I'll be doing a RWD TL anytime soon, as completely badass as it would be. If someone wants to front the money for it by all means we can do it.

HQTL6SPD

^^ if i had money like that, i'd be all for rwd conversion

JOES05tl

That sounds awesome! Thats about as complete of a kit as you could get-
What kind of numbers do you guys think this setup is gonna be able to make on stock internals???

eggyhustles

hey guys look at this cl i seen on ebay im not too familiar wit cls and tls..but dont they have the same exact engine?

k24em2

Sort of. The cylinder heads are different I know for a fact, not sure about the bottom end though.

Joe- The kit with the original turbos will support around 600hp. Whether the engine will take that, I'm not sure.

JOES05tl

FUCK YEAH!!!


Hey k24, I gotta friend w/ a tsx that I told about your project. He asked me to find out what you did with the k24 thats in your screen name? He's under the impression that theres not much he can do to his.

k24em2

Joe, there is a LOT he can do with a K series. Does he want to go forced induction? NA?

JOES05tl

fi, but a snail instead of a blower

Juiced_Acura_Kidd

If you're not looking to spend all that money on a turbo...here's Plan B

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Acura...QQcmdZViewItem


haha

JOES05tl

Juiced_Acura_Kid, Why I oughtta!!!-

TurboSam

i dont work there anymore, but yea, i used too... ill pass the message to my boy, he calls me and tells me everytime he sees ur car just to tell me you've done something new and i need to do that to my car, lol

k24em2

Just a quick update, we have made some headway on the ECU portion of the kit.

Laxplaya11385

Whoohooo!

JOES05tl

Your first post was 3-16. Now not more than a month later, you've made progress on gaining control over the ecu that no one else could tame! What do you do for a living, bro?!? Anyways, Im stoked somebody is finally getting somewhere with this. PS- you can prototype on my car if you want!

k24em2

I already have an auto TL. If yours is a manual we might talk later.

lifetimeofwar

Yay Turbo!

Laxplaya11385

where in the midwest? if i buy a project car, i might be able to spare my car.