Hi speed

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I just had my supercharger installed and am hoping to have it tuned with a Greedy E-manage ultimate. One, is there a special version I need to be compatable with the charger and two, do any of the supercharger guys have the base maps?

MugenR

Nice! congrats on your the SC purchase, you'll love every minute of it.

the only people t hat I know of that have had tuning success with ultimate is Blusap and Lookinco.

I believe all you need is a regular Greddy Ultimate E-Manage and the boomslang PnP harness.

Here is the link to the Boomslang PnP harness for ultimate. http://www.boomslang.us/ultimate.htm

I'm personally waiting for the Hondata Reflash.

Good luck! and post dynos!

dan.....k

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I see you live in Cali. You should PM some of the other CA S/C guys and ask them where to get the hondata reflash.

ndabunka

The Hondata reflash is really the best way to go...if you can even get it. I don't think it's been officially released to the general market but there are a few guys on here who have had it done (as beta testers). I think it's around $700 and you HAVE to be local to them to get it done (us east coast boys are outta luck there).

As far as the eManage efforts, please do run a search on those results. I am pretty certain only a few things are addressable. As stated above ^ Lookinco had some success with one aspect but I "think" his is also a 3.5 rather than a 3.2 like is in the standard TL so his efforts may not be able to be translated directly to yours. But, go ahead and run a search and you will find all that there is... it ain't a whole lot.

Unfortunately, tuning a TL is NOTHING like tuning a Honda. Can't just get someone else's maps... unfortunately

04accordcpe

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what other mods do you have?? im running the emanage with just the a/f tuned. its all you need if your running the stock pulley 4-5psi.

BLACKURA_NY

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yea, there are NO maps for the J32 block on the 3G TL. if you get an e-manage, you'll have to tune it from scratch, and if the place isnt reliable, they could seriously damage your motor

you are best off with the hondata reflash. it will eliminate the surging, and definitely add some gains to it...

look into Hondata and Church automotive.. they are somewhere in cali.

04accordcpe

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there isnt??

MugenR

what's up with the name change?


Isn't Church the place you got your e-manage tuned anyway?

04accordcpe

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this is my screen name on the other forums. just thought id stick to one so theres no confusion.


yes church is the place i had mine tuned, but i do have a basemap. since im 3.2 SC, i dont see why you guys cant download the map.

ILLustriousUA6

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so have u ever raced a wdp TL on 101? going @ a pretty "Hi Speed"???

Accord_V6_400m

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Yep good to see Sean already posting in this thread

Since your up north ask Comptech for there advice on tuner shops nearby, i'm sure they would be willing to help, if not come down to So Cal and get your car tuned, that is if Seans map doesn't work out for some reason.

stillhere153

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yea would be nice if you could upload it to like megaupload.com and share it
that would make me go right to a blower purchase

ILLustriousUA6

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^^ would it even work on your S???

stillhere153

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it would be a start

Hi speed

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only the wheels are type-s and yes that was me on 101 the day before I had the SC put in. I was bone stock that night, still pissed you beat me though.

HONgDA

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Sweet! Another SJ 3G TL on AZ. S/C'ed at that. We should get together and do a photo shoot one of these days.

Just curious, where did you go to do the install?

Hi speed

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I got the charger installed at a place in milpitas called Blacktrax performance. As far as the tune, I am not sure when Hondata is going to release the reflash. The car is crazy, even with the limited slip and the sound is perfect but the hesitation kills me.

dan.....k

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Hi speed, you can get it since you live in Cali. Doug from Hondata came on the board looking for more testers. Call Autowave. I believe thier number is in one of the Hondata threads.

ILLustriousUA6

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u down for some digs? lol.. I was comming back from JDM-theory that night. good run bro..

I hope you know how to launch with that s/c TL.. There's this one other s/c Anthracite in SJ that I'm suppose to run. He supposedly runs 14.6. He rarely comes out tho. =\

Hi speed

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As far as launching the car my only problem has been the recent rain. Once it drys out I will see what is really going on. Here is the deal with Hondata, I live in San Jose and Hondata is in Riverside or something. I can't leave my car in southern California for any amount of time and Riverside is way too far for a day trip.

MichaelBenz

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What is the advantage of the Ultimate over the Blue so far as Emanage goes. Lots of the accord guys with the same engines are running emanage blue units? I was considering an emanage blue....but everybody over here seems to be saying the Ultimate? The Blue is the old tried and true....will it not work? Facts and Opinions appreciated! Thanks!

stillhere153

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I believe the ultimate has more tuning parameters which allows the tuner to work with... can't confirm it but I think you can have a knock sensor...

MichaelBenz

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Yes....I noticed that on the Boomslang web site (harness)....I just want to make sure I get the right one the first time. I was going to go emanage blue as that was what the accord guys are using sucessfully...but not sure it all translates out to the same on our TL cars. The ultimate as far as boomslang site mentions is:
Choose one:
Air and Water Input
Knock and Water Input
Knock and Air Input
Dual Knock Input

The plain Emanage unit (for the Blue I am assuming) has no choices....just one harness mentioned.

The question still remains....which way to go that works best with the 2005 Automatic TL that is Supercharged. Another question would be....does it actually work in practice?

enigmaos

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ot: welcome back, MB.

ndabunka

It doesn't matter which eManage you get, only the A/F mixture can be addressed. That's why no one is doing it over here in TL land. Not really certain what all the Honda guy are doing (or THINK) they are doing...

04accordcpe

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OK, heres the scoop.

i currently have both emanage and blue versions tuned for my SC. i also have both boomslang PnP harnesses also. i went down to churches and had them both tuned, on the same day last october.

regarding the harnesses, disregard the options shown for the boomslang harnesses on their website. they make one and only one harness for our 7thgen accord / 3rd gen TL's. well acutally 2 types, one for manual or auto.

now, the ultimate version will only allow you to tune the a/f only. something about it is not compatible with our type of ecu's. it adjust the timing differently than the blue version. 4-5psi of boost is ok and you can get by with just an a/f tune, but if you plan on boosting more, than ignition timing plays a crucial part.

the blue unit allowed me to adjust a/f, ignition timing, vtec control, etc,... utilizing all the functions.

the ultimate has features like launch control, rev limit adjustments, allowing to run bigger injectors by 50% yada yada yada.


for the outcome, i actually made 321hp @ 6000 rpm with the blue version and 302hp @6000 rpm with the ultimate. thats about a 20hp difference between the two, BUT for some reason it went pig rich from 6000rpm to 6400rpm, then lean back out and finished at 325hp @ redline, while the ultimate made 328hp @ redline

so the hp curve with the ultimate was a straight line up, while the blue did a rollercoaster from 6000 to redline. if we can flatten out that curve, i believe i can make 335 -340whp with my setup i have now, running only 4psi.

michael, if i were you, get the blue version hands down.

ndabunka

04accordcpe - Thanks for the details I stand corrected. Apparently the Blue can do more.

stillhere153

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OK so blue is the way to go for me also... shit it is only like $99 bargain too... if I was boosted I'd do it so quick


but I am n/a so I will be doing it in the next coming months

04accordcpe

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us lowly accord guys get no respect!! lol

there are a total of five supercharged 7th gen accord v6's in existance (or that we know of). 3 are auto's, and the other 2 are 6spds including myself. the 3 autos are my buddies, one has a 3.2 swap like myself and the others are still 3.0. ALL of us are using the emanage, two blue and two ultimate, with great success.

hers my point, theres got to be 50 supercharged 3rd gen TL's to every 7th gen accord and not a single one is using the emanage

from what ive seen, im pulling better numbers than most and even a few using the HBP. all this and im still using my stock 3.0 ecu to boot. it boggles my mind why no one else has jumped on the emanage bandwagon, cause i think its safe to say hondata has thrown their so called "reflash" on the backburner for now.

stillhere153

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Imma fux with it n/a (evil grin)

Kennedy

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Problem is... finding a shop that knows what they're doing. It's not a matter of jumping on it, it's matter of finding a place I'd trust my engine too.

horsepowercrzy18

i just bought an s/c for my cls. i think im going to buy the emanage blue and tune it, because the comptech ecu isnt tuned for s/c, intake, headers, high flow cat, and exhaust. i believe itd be safer and make way more power with the emanage blue. what do you think? and where would you buy a emanage blue?

csmeance

CLS, you will find more info in the CL section rather than the TL section, or if you do insist the TL section, the 2nd gen would be better since the 2nd gen TL/CL are much closer to each other than the 3rd gen.

apnorm

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I know this is an old thread but (1) how has the ultimate or blue been for those of you who are using it, (2) is it still just the air/fuel you can tune and (3) have any of you started out with the ultimate or blue and then switched to another software? If so, what are your thoughts?

I'm getting the supercharger installed and trying to figure out if I need this and if so, what to go with. Any help is greatly appreciated!

horsepowercrzy18

i had the emanage blue on my cl because theres no reason to have the ultimate since it is not possible to adjust timing on our cars. only air/fuel ratios can be done. or get an aem replacement ecu. i did extensive research to see if it was possible to adjust timing on the cl and came to a dead end when jotech explained how and why it couldnt be done and even talked to greddy to see if there were any other options. only way to adjust timing is with msd ignition

apnorm

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From what I've read, I would have to get the emanage blue and a separate harness. Can you confirm? How much did you pay for both? Also, how much did you pay for the tune itself? Do you know how many hours it took to just tune the air/fuel? Just trying to get an estimate on how much this will cost.

Much appreciated!

horsepowercrzy18

paid 150 for used emanage blue. got boomslang harness which was like 210. tune was 400. so in all like 760-800

apnorm

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thanks for the info!

apnorm

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Anyone have any luck using the AEM FIC?

04accordcpe

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ill let you know next week