Efthimios

Is the top speed limited in the 07-08 TL-S-due to tire restrictions,transmission,etc???I have owned a 95 M3-94 LT-1vette.and just sold my 05-C55
The 3gen-TL-S in auto seems to be limited around 148-150- i’m not complaining by no means I’m just curious it definitely seems that the motor is capable of exceeding 150 - i’ve also heard that it could be due to insurance ratings that once a vehicle exceeds a certain mile per hour they cost more to insure.

justnspace

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transmission gearing, tires, etc.

TylerT

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Unless you plan on taking it to the autobahn, what does it matter?

Also .. if you can, get a 6 speed.

horseshoez

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I believe the limit for speed has everything to do with the governed limit programmed into the car's electronics. FWIW, I read a stat somewhere which shows the 6MT versions are capable of hitting the limit of something like 155 in both 5th and 6th gears.

AZuser

If you want to exceed 150 mph, get an RLX. With "performance tires and rims, it will go all the way to 200mph"

horseshoez

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To be quite honest, my gut says that claim is complete B.S.

Efthimios

It seems the motor responds great at all rpm’s-and really comes alive after 5000rpm- as you might tell I’m new to the forum and just purchased my first 2007 Acura TL type S with 72kmiles ASM with the 5spauto-it really is the total package!

thisaznboi88

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isn't there like a wall that the TL hits. Even when you are going WOT it will dial the TB down by itself? I can't find the video for it.

horseshoez

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Of course there are a bunch of us here who would argue anything with an autotragic transmission is missing a very key ingredient relative to the "total package" thing. The missing ingredient? Yup, you guessed it, a manual transmission.

WDPanda

5k rpm is vtec

Efthimios

—I was looking for a low mile one owner garage kept 3 gen tl-s -yes I would have loved a 6MT but most were over 100k miles and were driven a lot harder-it was important to me get a stock -unmolested car-BTW the F1 paddle shifters do a great job and the 0-60 in the auto is 5.9 and the 6MT is 5.5 -

horseshoez

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Even if the 6MT was slower, cars with autotragic transmissions would still come up short in the "total package" category.

thisaznboi88

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Flashpro plus staged 2 camshaft should do the job

igloo

. . . hmmm, I don't know.

horseshoez

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Dude, your "Man Card" is in jeopardy.

igloo

Never needed a card to define me. As for automatic transmission TL's, they were (are) never much of a sports sedan, just a quick and a bit more refined Accord.

Efthimios

The 07-08 3gen TL-S Is everything German competitors wish there cars were! Give you one guess it’s called reliability - still 11 years later the car performs like it rolled off the showroom floor - All the car experts were praising the twin turbo 335i Bimmer when it came out in 07- but as we now know the reliability issues with the twin turbo motor are notorious as well as resale value-Peace of mind is priceless when I comes to a performance car and Honda has figured out both with their exceptional J35 VTEC (r)!!!

Efthimios

Don’t know why so many are down on the 5AT- The car seems like an obvious choice for an ex tuner that’s all grown up-BTW-the difference in 0-60 and 1/4 times are slim -5.5 6mt -5.9 5AT-

horseshoez

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A couple of points:

• I'm in my 60s, and if I haven't grown up by now, I guess I never will.
• It isn't about acceleration, it is about control and driving enjoyment. An automatic transmission turns the TL into a commodity/appliance. IMHO.

justnspace

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there's something satisfying about "flicking" your wrist and feeling of the shifter clicking into gear.
I also love blipping the gas, right before a downshift. the car speaks to me in ways an automatic cant

igloo

Acceleration, control and enjoyment is not exclusive to rowing your own, You know that. This is not a auto V manual debate. Porsche just gave the masses the 911 GT 2 with a 6 speed; that's a good thing. We differ on the merits of the TL I guess. To me the TL just a "sportier" Accord, and I don't see the passion people here have for the 6 speed. Just me I guess.

anx1300c

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2007 was a decade ago. In 2017, BMW is ranked #5 in reliability vs Acura at #19. The N55 and B58 engines have been exceptionally reliable. Yes, the N54 had problems with the HPFP and the turbos, but most performance oriented people in the quest for big power went ahead and upgraded to a single turbo and AM pump anyway. The block/crank/pistons/rods/heads on the N54 are stout. They can handle 700-800 whp on stock internals without missing a beat. The J Series is an awesome engine; smooth as silk at 7k and bulletproof, but the potential to make any real power just isn't there.

https://www.consumerreports.org/car-...they-stack-up/

igloo

I meant GT3.

Efthimios

The F1 paddle shifters found only in the 5sp auto are amazing-you have both of best worlds without a clutch- something you Can’t do in the 6sp-Now if the car didn’t have a limiter the 6mt would be great however we all know it only needs five because the extra gear is really useless-IMHO-

horseshoez

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Bwaaa-haa-haaa, best of both worlds, NOT. Putting an autotragic transmission in semi-automatic mode and driving with the flippy-dippy paddles is pretty synonymous with putting the car in wanna-be poseur mode.

TacoBello

LOL.. the TL or TL-S Automatic transmission is nothing short of horrendous garbage

The paddle shifters are garbage. Hit the paddle, wait 18 seconds for gear change to happen. Totally mess up any change of taking a corner as fast as possible. They are a marketing ploy that really serves zero purpose. If the car had a DCT transmission or even a sport auto, then yeah, sure, it makes sense. Otherwise, by the time the computer decides it is safe to shift, you've already fallen asleep.

Also, LOL... since when is an extra gear ever a waste? The base 6MT TL from 04-06 is just as fast as the 07-08 TL 5AT.. .and has 30hp less. I love it when people who know nothing about our cars come in and start telling us how it's done

horseshoez

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Fixed.

Efthimios

Ha!The Tl-s at best is a luxury cruiser and automatic is the way to go get a 91 zr1 so u can enjoy a 6sp sport car🤔

Efthimios

I’m not trying to chase anything down in poseur mode I’m in a 3gen TL-s 5AT-it’s fast enough for me And I enjoy the automatic every day especially in traffic now when I want a 6mt -I’ll get a S2000-

losiglow

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to the manual crowd and comments. I understand that there's subjectivity involved. People like different things. I also understand the conveniences that come from an AT. But manual transmissions are far more superior when it comes to the drivers connection with the car. They're also a lot more fun and reliable than automatic transmissions. I'm pretty happy with the 6AT in my 2012 TL. The torque converter locks up fast and manual shifting is pretty quick. Adding racing ATF has improved shift speed and responsiveness so it doesn't feel like such a slushbox. It also helps that manual mode forces the transmission to stay in gear, even if you push it all the way to the rev limiter or give it more throttle at a lower gear (doesn't downshift unless you tell it to). But at the end of the day, it's still a far cry from the 6MT in my old 2006. I highly doubt my next car will have an AT. The only reason I have this one was because it was a concession to my wife. The deal was, I could buy a new (used) car if it had an AT so she could drive it too. I taught her how to drive a manual but she just doesn't like it. Again, subjectivity.

I test drove the Type-S with an AT and hands down, would take a base 6MT instead. No question. Now the 6MT Type-S, that's a different story. I'd pay an extra $5K over base for one of those.

6MTSSR

I've owned manuals all my life...still do.Owned a 04 6 speed silver TL AND LOVED IT.Now my 07 MRP auto Type S IS A GREAT CAR.Why Acura couldn't upgrade the 5 speed auto to have better manual mode response ?It's the only thing I hate about the car.Yes the auto is stronger than the earlier models but is antiquated.6 speed manual turns the car into a more enjoyable ride with better feel and response.Either car/trans choice,the car is NOT A SPORTS SEDAN AS WE EXPECT.Lets define what the car exactly is,a SPORTY sedan.

WDPanda

I don't get people who say automatics are better in traffic??? How is that so? You like pumping the brakes every few seconds? I love manual cars in traffic because you can go slower in first gear without having to constantly jab the brake pedal, you save gas and brakes and it's more smoother. So don't use that traffic garbage excuse unless you want to look like someone who doesn't know how to drive properly.

thisaznboi88

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only time I can think auto is better is if you are driving in SF. Those crazy inclines will definitely give your leg a workout even with ebrake assist

horseshoez

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When I was (much) younger, I used to frequent San Francisco in my 1970 Challenger which had a 3,500 lbs. Borg & Beck pressure plate. Yeah, my middle-left toes would get a little tingly after a while.

Efthimios

Why lsd on 6mt and not on 5AT?Its called torque steer-6mt great for rwd not so good for fwd-biggest complaint about the 3gen type s is torque steer- and there’s plenty of it especially in the manual in first and second gear the automatic doesn’t disrupt the balance of the vehicle -IMHO-

horseshoez

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Clearly you've never driven a 6MT TL.

teh CL

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Scottwax

I've got car with an automatic and one with a manual. Much prefer the manual even in traffic. Plus a manual transmission can generally handle more power.

justnspace

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I want to thank you all for being gentlemen during a personal debate!

1black_seven

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Do you wear a bicycle helmet when you go outside? I'm not sure if you're being serious or just a professional troll.