TL's turbo, twin turbo or supercharger. What's best, and where to buy it!
Hey guys... What's up. Who can help me whith my problem -- please help!... I'm interesting how to add to my TL over 150HP. What's better turbo or supercharger. Does exost gonna add some HP.
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No turbo..no twinturbo... Comptech did however come out with a supercharger kit. It will put you around the 330hp area I believe. Kit costs around 3k-4k and installation is another 1k. http://youtube.com/watch?v=zBNJxiOg2UY http://youtube.com/watch?v=T5ouVjuq5LA |
Welcome to the forum, and you CAN get a turbo.. I'll tell you how.
Go to a mitsubishi dealership and trade the TL for an evo. Suburu, Audi, and BMW dealerships will also suffice. But, ballin is correct there is no Turbo and the supercharger is for the base TL not TL-S and only gives 40-60 not 150. Read more here. http://www.autocarparts.com/p_Compte...ercharger-Kit/ |
From what I've read, I don't think an SC plus EVERYTHING else will yeild 150 HP. 80 - 90 maybe ???
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Originally Posted by spiike
Welcome to the forum, and you CAN get a turbo.. I'll tell you how.
Go to a mitsubishi dealership and trade the TL for an evo. Suburu, Audi, and BMW dealerships will also suffice. But, ballin is correct there is no Turbo and the supercharger is for the base TL not TL-S and only gives 40-60 not 150. Read more here. http://www.autocarparts.com/p_Compte...ercharger-Kit/ hilarious lol |
we sharing supercharged youtube vids? :)
I'll play. http://youtube.com/watch?v=6OnV0V2dPU8 get the CT Supercharger, done deal, be happy :) |
i wish there were some good supercharger videos out there....like racing or in car pulls or somethin...i come up with the good n/a vids..wheres the blower vids?
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Originally Posted by type-s09
i wish there were some good supercharger videos out there....like racing or in car pulls or somethin...i come up with the good n/a vids..wheres the blower vids?
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lookinco has some pretty badass vids
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Originally Posted by MugenR
we sharing supercharged youtube vids? :)
I'll play. http://youtube.com/watch?v=6OnV0V2dPU8 get the CT Supercharger, done deal, be happy :) your car sounds just like mine ;) gotta love the sound of the comptech exhaust :yum: do you have a custom CAI yet? BTW, what were your numbers? |
no traction.......
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Originally Posted by blusap
your car sounds just like mine ;) gotta love the sound of the comptech exhaust :yum: do you have a custom CAI yet?
BTW, what were your numbers? but I pulled a 291.4 hp to the wheels and 236.1 trq. haven't been back to the dyno after that. should though :thumbsup: |
Originally Posted by MugenR
the dyno pulls were with comptech S/C restrictive intake, no methanol and a stock crank pulley.
but I pulled a 291.4 hp to the wheels and 236.1 trq. haven't been back to the dyno after that. should though :thumbsup: not bad, not bad, considering your an auto and still using the comptech ACM POS... once you ditch that and get a good tune, you can get an extra 10-15whp no problem i wouldnt call the comptech intake restrictive. it does muffle the sound of the SC though. |
They need to make a S/C for the tl-s......i dont wanna mod much but i'd have to get the S/C for my tl-s if they come out with one.
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Originally Posted by spiike
Welcome to the forum, and you CAN get a turbo.. I'll tell you how.
Go to a mitsubishi dealership and trade the TL for an evo. Suburu, Audi, and BMW dealerships will also suffice. But, ballin is correct there is no Turbo and the supercharger is for the base TL not TL-S and only gives 40-60 not 150. Read more here. http://www.autocarparts.com/p_Compte...ercharger-Kit/ |
Originally Posted by V-Sic
They need to make a S/C for the tl-s......i dont wanna mod much but i'd have to get the S/C for my tl-s if they come out with one.
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brains, did you also ask them when the icebox will be out for the TL? I wonder if that will be "this summer" too.
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Originally Posted by spiike
brains, did you also ask them when the icebox will be out for the TL? I wonder if that will be "this summer" too.
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maybe be if all acuzinerZ call comptech and inquire about the S/C for tl-s they wil make it faster.....cmon guys help us out !!!! LOL
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man tl-s s/c would be hot!
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Originally Posted by dr_brains510
i was talking with comptech and there should be a s/c for the 07-08 TLS hopefully by summer; atleast thats what the ppl at comptech told me. they said they are waiting to get a TLS from a dealership. I offered to bring my TLS but they are located in Sacramento so I couldn't do it. Anyone willing to sacrifice your TLS for the rest of us? lol
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Originally Posted by ballinfizzle89
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No turbo..no twinturbo... Comptech did however come out with a supercharger kit. It will put you around the 330hp area I believe. Kit costs around 3k-4k and installation is another 1k. http://youtube.com/watch?v=zBNJxiOg2UY http://youtube.com/watch?v=T5ouVjuq5LA yet. no turbo kit is available to my knowledge, but it can be fabricated .... |
Originally Posted by ThezeSkillz
turbo can be done if u have 6 spd and limited slip differential. the problem that I ran into while discussing the possible turbo layout is I do not own TL-S ..... :(
yet. no turbo kit is available to my knowledge, but it can be fabricated .... |
Originally Posted by o4Komodo
I thought that a turbo could be done regardless... and that the main issue was that we need tuning or something.
the above information came from my motor guy probably in liu of my driving style primarily and the fcgt , but reality is the turbo would not blow off appropritely (in time) and would continue to spool... if someone has accomplished this task and I am incorrect, please let me know.... my baby needs the boost |
Originally Posted by ThezeSkillz
it could be done regardless if you would like to replace stock automatic tranny within about 48 hrs....
the above information came from my motor guy probably in liu of my driving style primarily and the fcgt , but reality is the turbo would not blow off appropritely (in time) and would continue to spool... if someone has accomplished this task and I am incorrect, please let me know.... my baby needs the boost |
Originally Posted by ThezeSkillz
it could be done regardless if you would like to replace stock automatic tranny within about 48 hrs....
the above information came from my motor guy probably in liu of my driving style primarily and the fcgt , but reality is the turbo would not blow off appropritely (in time) and would continue to spool... if someone has accomplished this task and I am incorrect, please let me know.... my baby needs the boost |
Originally Posted by csmeance
(Post 9272966)
you are almost 100% incorrect. The TL's ECU has no method of being tuned, the car uses Drive-By-Wire and back-up systems that help to over-ride many of the piggy-back systems like the emanage ultimate. The transmission has nothing to do with this, its only tuning that is holding back the car, and if you did replace the trans, you would have millions of errors to deal with, for example LIMP mode. Your motor guy doesn't know the real issue with the TL, he is just making generalized statements.
TO all the intelligent engineers, network admins, and entrepeneurs in this forum..... Can we make this work? We can use Too Much Blue as guinea pig TL..... there HAS GOTto be some way to pull this off..... some way to tune it... maybe combination of two seperate fuel air regulation devices? |
Originally Posted by ThezeSkillz
(Post 9271237)
it could be done regardless if you would like to replace stock automatic tranny within about 48 hrs....
the above information came from my motor guy probably in liu of my driving style primarily and the fcgt , but reality is the turbo would not blow off appropritely (in time) and would continue to spool... if someone has accomplished this task and I am incorrect, please let me know.... my baby needs the boost As far as fabrication, many shops could do it. But the problem is tuning, just like everyone else said. A turbo at the same psi as the supercharger should yield an extra 40-50whp. |
there might be a way for us to get it done, swap to an accord J30 ECU and then tune that like all the other twin turbo v6 accords. Only downsides would be 1. Loss of SS for automatics for sure, and maybe a loss of other systems like VSA. This is just a guess for know...
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I'd go Twin Turbo.
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there's almost no way to do twins. the engine bay has almost no room. unfortunately a lot of big company's are abandoning the Third Gen TL. I've been deep in research since i got the car, and i'm extremely sad :(
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Originally Posted by Xiomaro
(Post 10198475)
there's almost no way to do twins. the engine bay has almost no room. unfortunately a lot of big company's are abandoning the Third Gen TL. I've been deep in research since i got the car, and i'm extremely sad :(
Originally Posted by csmeance
there might be a way for us to get it done, swap to an accord J30 ECU and then tune that like all the other twin turbo v6 accords. Only downsides would be 1. Loss of SS for automatics for sure, and maybe a loss of other systems like VSA. This is just a guess for know...
remember, one of the other 7th gen accords thats SC'd has the TL ecu installed. the frankenstein ultimate/blue combo works the exact same for him as it does for me, so im 99.9% sure it will for the TL-S also. :D |
Originally Posted by 04accordcpe
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its been done a couple of times with the 7th gen accords, which is basically the same car so its very doable. yes its a tight package, but it works. whats really nice is honda did most of the work for us by casting the manifolds right on the heads, which in turn work like turbo manifolds and will save you alot of time and money getting some custom ones made. just simply bolt the turbo's and figure where you want to run all your piping (wish it was easy as it sounded lol) ;)
why would you want to do that? theres relatively no difference from the accords j30 ecu all the way up to the type-s j35's ecu. if the aem FI/C worked for me, no doubt it will work for you TL guys. its just a matter of calling boomslang and having a PnP harness made for those that dont want to hardwire it in. remember, one of the other 7th gen accords thats SC'd has the TL ecu installed. the frankenstein ultimate/blue combo works the exact same for him as it does for me, so im 99.9% sure it will for the TL-S also. :D |
Onboard SC Video
It's no type-s but if you can make the sc fit and run dual greddy's for engine management you might be in business, for only about $6500 or so...
Good luck must of the crew that has the SC setup has flew by that $ amount.:2cents: http://s427.photobucket.com/albums/p...t=MOV00144.flv |
i wanna go TT but tuning sucks, the trans will blow to pieces, and the engine prolly wont hold much...
hmm k24 swap is in my head...lighter, cheaper to make fast..actually has aftermarket support...hmmm |
Originally Posted by jdmitr22
(Post 10246738)
i wanna go TT but tuning sucks, the trans will blow to pieces, and the engine prolly wont hold much...
hmm k24 swap is in my head...lighter, cheaper to make fast..actually has aftermarket support...hmmm Besides tuning, you don't NEED aftermarket support for normal engine mods. The J32 is just an engine. Any good shop can port the heads, companies can regrind cams, JE will custom make any piston you want, the same goes for any of the major rod manufacturers. |
Originally Posted by stheman
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How did that work out for him I working on a build myself and looked into the TL ECU
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Originally Posted by spiike
(Post 9057513)
Welcome to the forum, and you CAN get a turbo.. I'll tell you how.
Go to a mitsubishi dealership and trade the TL for an evo. Suburu, Audi, and BMW dealerships will also suffice. But, ballin is correct there is no Turbo and the supercharger is for the base TL not TL-S and only gives 40-60 not 150. Read more here. http://www.autocarparts.com/p_Compte...ercharger-Kit/ |
Why do I think it wouldn't be that difficult for GReddy to offer a Ultimate/Blue hybrid model for Accord/TL tuners? I'm sure they're not that different at the early stages of manufacturing. Has anyone ever informed GReddy that we have to buy 2 of their boxes to get a full tune? I think the footprint of this community could promise them X amount of sales if they hooked it up.
*cue Stillhere, I hate cars and 04accordcpe telling me why this is the dumbest idea ever...* |
Originally Posted by NedShneebly
(Post 10247526)
Why do I think it wouldn't be that difficult for GReddy to offer a Ultimate/Blue hybrid model for Accord/TL tuners? I'm sure they're not that different at the early stages of manufacturing. Has anyone ever informed GReddy that we have to buy 2 of their boxes to get a full tune? I think the footprint of this community could promise them X amount of sales if they hooked it up.
*cue Stillhere, I hate cars and 04accordcpe telling me why this is the dumbest idea ever...* LOL. You know more about aftermarket Honda ECUs than I do. |
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