TL Diet 2.0/Track Car Build - Roll Cage Pg 51
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This thread moves wayyy too fast for me to keep up! Rex, those RPF1s look AMAZING! I wouldn't paint them; who knows how long the paint will last with all the heat cycling from the track. And for a cast wheel, powder coating is out of the question.
Someone on here stated that we're all used to seeing the 3G TL in it's luxury form and that seeing it in it's full race form is very nice. I couldn't have said it better myself. The 3G looks amazing as a race car. Who would have guessed.
I know this has already been addressed before, but I have 17x9 rpf1s on my type-s, and it wasn't easy getting them to fit lol. My wheels have a +22 offset and they BARELY clear the Brembos. I believe Rex has the factory Brembos painted red (judging by the shape of the caliper).
Several issues come with the low offset.
1. Aerodynamics - My wheels "poke out" past the fender, effectively increasing the frontal area. Spinning wheels create a hell of a lot of turbulance and unless you're running a wide-body, I would avoid "poke" at all costs.
2. Hard to control vehicle in the case of a blown out tire.
3. More torque steer (imo more fun to drive , but detrimental to track times).
4. Fender clearance - depends on the size tire you choose, but if you're as low as villo is, i'm pretty sure a 255 tire will rub. I'm not rubbing anymore only because I'm running 245/40R17 and i'm only 1.4" lower than stock. A lot of rules forbid fender cutting, which was required to fit these wheels.
Yes, you get the benefit of a wider track with a lower offset wheel, but imo the pros don't outweigh the cons haha. You're lucky you get to run 17x9 +45 rpf1s on your car, fenda rolla! If I could, I would too! lucky.
Someone on here stated that we're all used to seeing the 3G TL in it's luxury form and that seeing it in it's full race form is very nice. I couldn't have said it better myself. The 3G looks amazing as a race car. Who would have guessed.
Villo, are those 17x8 RPF1's I see??? When did you get those?? You know I'm gonna say you need to rock at least the 17x9's for that tasty deep dish look!! Besides you can run a wider tire too!! and if weight is a concern, they weigh pretty much the same!!
Also, what Carbotech pads are you running again?? And which tires??
And how are your control arm bushings and other steering/suspension components holding up so far??
Also, what Carbotech pads are you running again?? And which tires??
And how are your control arm bushings and other steering/suspension components holding up so far??
Several issues come with the low offset.
1. Aerodynamics - My wheels "poke out" past the fender, effectively increasing the frontal area. Spinning wheels create a hell of a lot of turbulance and unless you're running a wide-body, I would avoid "poke" at all costs.
2. Hard to control vehicle in the case of a blown out tire.
3. More torque steer (imo more fun to drive , but detrimental to track times).
4. Fender clearance - depends on the size tire you choose, but if you're as low as villo is, i'm pretty sure a 255 tire will rub. I'm not rubbing anymore only because I'm running 245/40R17 and i'm only 1.4" lower than stock. A lot of rules forbid fender cutting, which was required to fit these wheels.
Yes, you get the benefit of a wider track with a lower offset wheel, but imo the pros don't outweigh the cons haha. You're lucky you get to run 17x9 +45 rpf1s on your car, fenda rolla! If I could, I would too! lucky.
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#803
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Haha! It's the very, very few times like these that I'm glad I have the Base instead of Type-S!!
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Keep us updated on when you're going and if you have any questions don't hesitate to ask!
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APR. You just quoted it.
Something close to...
http://aprperformance.com/index.php?...d=91&Itemid=51
Something close to...
http://aprperformance.com/index.php?...d=91&Itemid=51
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Well one side is about done. HELL of a lot of work.... Still gotta work with the silicon a bit and probably add some just to ensure it's 100% sealed but I know how you all are with wanting pictures so here's some for you. Gonna paint the heads of the rivets black as well.
By the way, the three right angle corners are going to need special attention. It's not at all level with the other 95% of the frame around the window so I'll need to figure out an alternate way to seal them because a rivet or screw would not work in these areas. don't really need to add anymore rivets or screws or anything, just enough silicon to seal it up tight.
By the way, the three right angle corners are going to need special attention. It's not at all level with the other 95% of the frame around the window so I'll need to figure out an alternate way to seal them because a rivet or screw would not work in these areas. don't really need to add anymore rivets or screws or anything, just enough silicon to seal it up tight.
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APR. You just quoted it.
Something close to...
http://aprperformance.com/index.php?...d=91&Itemid=51
Something close to...
http://aprperformance.com/index.php?...d=91&Itemid=51
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Dude, multi-quote.
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but i like the M3 mirrors
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^^ you could do these. http://www.tunersdepot.com/Acura/TL+...iversal-1.html
#819
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So I signed up for my first track day at Willow Springs on June 1st! It says Friday is for beginners but I looked at the list of other cars going so far, and they are all beasts! I am gonna get destroyed lol. Also my friend wants me to do an autocross at El Toro airfield on June 17th also. Question for fenda, vill, or whoever, how many track days do you guys usually get out of a set of tires/brake pads?
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So I signed up for my first track day at Willow Springs on June 1st! It says Friday is for beginners but I looked at the list of other cars going so far, and they are all beasts! I am gonna get destroyed lol. Also my friend wants me to do an autocross at El Toro airfield on June 17th also. Question for fenda, vill, or whoever, how many track days do you guys usually get out of a set of tires/brake pads?
#821
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^^^ this...my Carbotechs are still going strong after a full track weekend and daily driving, and I was not easy on my brakes at all on the track. I still have plenty of pad left. And the rear RS3's still have the Ventus words and flame designs on the treads (which are imprinted pretty shallow). The fronts are definitely rubbed off, but still have about 70% left and the rears are barely used up, about 90% left! You're gonna track the RS3's right? And which pads are you going with??
And bro, congrats on signing up!! You're gonna love it and don't worry about the other beasts out there, you saw what our cars are capable of seeing Villo's and my vids! You're gonna be surprised what you're capable of out there! Just go easy the first couple sessions, learn the track, watch plenty of YouTube vids of others on that track and plan what you're gonna do (what gear to be in at what time) and just have fun! And don't go off the track! You need to drive home afterall! And we don't want that beautiful car having any war scars...yet...lol
And bro, congrats on signing up!! You're gonna love it and don't worry about the other beasts out there, you saw what our cars are capable of seeing Villo's and my vids! You're gonna be surprised what you're capable of out there! Just go easy the first couple sessions, learn the track, watch plenty of YouTube vids of others on that track and plan what you're gonna do (what gear to be in at what time) and just have fun! And don't go off the track! You need to drive home afterall! And we don't want that beautiful car having any war scars...yet...lol
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I see, I kind of figured as much being so many variables and all. Yea tires I am using are the Hankook RS-3s. Pads I have are racing brake et500s. Thanks for the advice, also the Willow Springs track is in Need for Speed Shift game so I can practice it a bit. Too bad all the cars in this game are too fast to compare to mine. I also recently picked up Live for Speed and it has autocross in it, very fun!
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Give Forza 4 (Xbox) or Gran Turismo 5 (PS3) a try. Depending on what system you have.
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Willow Springs isnt in Forza, unfortunately. Not that a video game is anywhere near the same as real world driving.
Anthracite - Id bring a new set of pads to run on the track, that way you can always swap on a set of good pads for the drive home.
Anthracite - Id bring a new set of pads to run on the track, that way you can always swap on a set of good pads for the drive home.
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True, just a suggestion. Also, a simulation racing game is the closest to driving. NFS is super unrealistic.
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Thanks again for the advice, yea I love racing games but I know they are nowhere close to the real thing. I have Forza and I rented GT5 but yea Willow Springs is not in those. It is in NFS Shift and Shift 2, I am just going to drive around it a few times anyways just to memorize the turns a bit. The track I am going on, Big Willow, is pretty big and very fast. Probably not the best track for my first time lol, should be fun! I am already watching tons of videos on youtube. There is a ton from this course. Some guys have even made instructional videos on how to drive the track which is nice.
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Just remember to take it at your own pace. They should go over everything before you even set a wheel on the track too.
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Exactly, set your own pace and don't let others intimidate you. As you already know from regular driving, it's easy to want to floor it and end up going too fast. Do practice laps at a normal speed to memorize it and practice taking turns then when you're comfortable bump it up a notch.
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Again lots of variables in this and I haven't dialed these in yet for Road Atlanta (yes it's definitely track dependant) but my fronts are around -1.5 to -1.7* and the rears are around -2.6* or so.
Sorry guys, I've been up in Omaha house hunting so I've been a little busy.
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finally picked up my own 16' car trailer today. Needs some minor work but it's gonna be so nice to have my own for once. Gonna have to figure out some sort of ramp configuration to get my car safely up onto the trailer but I'm sure I can figure that out no problem.
Now for some tires and I'll be set to hit the track as soon as I move to Omaha.
Now for some tires and I'll be set to hit the track as soon as I move to Omaha.
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finally picked up my own 16' car trailer today. Needs some minor work but it's gonna be so nice to have my own for once. Gonna have to figure out some sort of ramp configuration to get my car safely up onto the trailer but I'm sure I can figure that out no problem.
Now for some tires and I'll be set to hit the track as soon as I move to Omaha.
Now for some tires and I'll be set to hit the track as soon as I move to Omaha.
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This might be of some help for your ramp set up. My buddy has a lowered supra with a 18' trailer and uses an f250 as his tow vehicle. Since he's so low, he carries a pair of rhino ramps and drives the rear wheels up on them to angle the trailer for the front lip to clear.