Is there anyone with a '04-'06 TL 5spd AT getting the most of their cars through mods
05-11-2017, 04:46 PM
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I use it 99.99% of the time when I drive. It's more responsive with the mods than before and it's more fun bein able to have a little more control of the car! I've been driving down streets and such and I always get asked if it's a stick shift b/c it sounds really nice and it shifts really well.
05-11-2017, 08:04 PM
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I use it 99.99% of the time when I drive. It's more responsive with the mods than before and it's more fun bein able to have a little more control of the car! I've been driving down streets and such and I always get asked if it's a stick shift b/c it sounds really nice and it shifts really well.
LMFAO you gotta be kidding me right?
05-13-2017, 10:58 AM
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I agree with Bert.
First you have to define "stronger". No one has broken a hard part that I'm aware of. The problem comes from slipping clutches.
Type F fluid and pressure switches are all we can do to help the clutches from slipping and it works well as evidenced by Bert's high mileage 5at handling 400whp very well.
I agree that added line pressure needs to happen. I've almost got it done but I stopped working on it since the IRS decided to steal from me again.
Once we get the clutches to stop slipping, and the power levels rise, it will eventually start breaking hard parts. The auto has the potential to be stronger than the manual if for no other reason than less shock due to the converter.
I agree with Bert, get a 3,000 stall converter, it will make a huge difference off the start and you likely won't fall out of vtec on the 3-4 shift assuming it's not locked.
I highly recommend if someone was going to build a high power auto and do a converter, get with one of the big time converter companies. Let them cut it open and do it right. You will get a MUCH more efficient converter meaning more power to the ground and less power being converted to heat. Also, the use of an 8" or 9" converter will make the engine rev very quickly. My usually slow revving GN revs quicker than just about any modern car because of the low weight of the torque converter. It helps acceleration and at the risk of sounding like a ricer, it sounds better when it revs very fast and drops very fast. Spend the money on the torque converter, it will pay off in several ways.
First you have to define "stronger". No one has broken a hard part that I'm aware of. The problem comes from slipping clutches.
Type F fluid and pressure switches are all we can do to help the clutches from slipping and it works well as evidenced by Bert's high mileage 5at handling 400whp very well.
I agree that added line pressure needs to happen. I've almost got it done but I stopped working on it since the IRS decided to steal from me again.
Once we get the clutches to stop slipping, and the power levels rise, it will eventually start breaking hard parts. The auto has the potential to be stronger than the manual if for no other reason than less shock due to the converter.
I agree with Bert, get a 3,000 stall converter, it will make a huge difference off the start and you likely won't fall out of vtec on the 3-4 shift assuming it's not locked.
I highly recommend if someone was going to build a high power auto and do a converter, get with one of the big time converter companies. Let them cut it open and do it right. You will get a MUCH more efficient converter meaning more power to the ground and less power being converted to heat. Also, the use of an 8" or 9" converter will make the engine rev very quickly. My usually slow revving GN revs quicker than just about any modern car because of the low weight of the torque converter. It helps acceleration and at the risk of sounding like a ricer, it sounds better when it revs very fast and drops very fast. Spend the money on the torque converter, it will pay off in several ways.
05-13-2017, 11:03 AM
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lol wtf, here is a thread you started about torque converters
https://acurazine.com/forums/3g-tl-p...torque-953442/
more quotes from IHC
https://acurazine.com/forums/3g-tl-p...ission-881136/
lilbert who turbo'd his auto and made 400whp used a 3000 stall converter
https://acurazine.com/forums/3g-tl-p...torque-953442/
more quotes from IHC
The nice thing about the high stall converter is part throttle shifts become less noticeable. Back when I had a 3,500 stall converter, shifts were unnoticeable when driving normally. My converter took a dump and I had to go back to my stock 2,400rpm stall converter for a while and shifts were brutal, chirping the tires at less than 1/4 pedal.
The problem with the Honda 5at is it's different than any automatic on the planet. Very few people can build them correctly. It looks more like a manual trasmission half ass adapted for automatic use than a traditional auto.
The problem with the Honda 5at is it's different than any automatic on the planet. Very few people can build them correctly. It looks more like a manual trasmission half ass adapted for automatic use than a traditional auto.
lilbert who turbo'd his auto and made 400whp used a 3000 stall converter
05-15-2017, 10:07 AM
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lol wtf, here is a thread you started about torque converters
https://acurazine.com/forums/3g-tl-p...torque-953442/
more quotes from IHC
https://acurazine.com/forums/3g-tl-p...ission-881136/
lilbert who turbo'd his auto and made 400whp used a 3000 stall converter
https://acurazine.com/forums/3g-tl-p...torque-953442/
more quotes from IHC
https://acurazine.com/forums/3g-tl-p...ission-881136/
lilbert who turbo'd his auto and made 400whp used a 3000 stall converter
aftermarket torque convertor, but the site wouldn't allow me to PM him due to the amount of messages he already has in his inbox.
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05-16-2017, 03:53 PM
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lol!
do you want your car to look cool or go fast!?
it's VERY hard to do both on this car.
so, a compromise is needed. adding the aspec kit probably wont ADD ton of weight. but that's the price of looking cool.
or charge up your credit cards and do both!
aspec kit, jpipe, exhaust, supercharger, the whole nine yards
Fuck it! we only live once, right????????
do you want your car to look cool or go fast!?
it's VERY hard to do both on this car.
so, a compromise is needed. adding the aspec kit probably wont ADD ton of weight. but that's the price of looking cool.
or charge up your credit cards and do both!
aspec kit, jpipe, exhaust, supercharger, the whole nine yards
Fuck it! we only live once, right????????
05-16-2017, 04:34 PM
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05-17-2017, 06:26 AM
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Another thing I was going to mention is that I heard from someone that the 07-08 base auto TLs have the same bell housing as the 04-06 TLs, only the electronics for them are different. If that's the case I'm guessing a swap for a 07-08 TL transmission is possible, I will just have to get the right electronics to match up with it. Somebody correct if I'm wrong.
05-17-2017, 12:33 PM
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is your trans toast or something? you're not gaining horsepower by throwing another automatic trans in there. Just save your money. Be content with a pretty good car and save for something nicer when you're older and hopefully have more disposable income.
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05-17-2017, 08:36 PM
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I know that changing the transmission doesn't give you horsepower gains. It is the new torque convertor that is going to allow more torque into The engine. The reason why I want to swap the transmission is because the 07-08 base TLs are stronger and not as prone to failures as the 04-06.
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05-21-2017, 10:50 AM
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When your tranny fails replace it. For now leave as is. Don't go crazy on us just yet
justnspace is right man lite weight is the way to go if you want to go fast on a Tl on a budget.
getting some RPF1 or any light wheels well probably make the TL a lot faster then
spending 3-4k on exhaust 1-2hp intake 0hp ,jpipe 3-5hp HFPCs 1-2hp.
our cars suck for go fast mods and more so if you have a Slushbox tranny.
justnspace is right man lite weight is the way to go if you want to go fast on a Tl on a budget.
getting some RPF1 or any light wheels well probably make the TL a lot faster then
spending 3-4k on exhaust 1-2hp intake 0hp ,jpipe 3-5hp HFPCs 1-2hp.
our cars suck for go fast mods and more so if you have a Slushbox tranny.
05-22-2017, 01:29 AM
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When your tranny fails replace it. For now leave as is. Don't go crazy on us just yet
justnspace is right man lite weight is the way to go if you want to go fast on a Tl on a budget.
getting some RPF1 or any light wheels well probably make the TL a lot faster then
spending 3-4k on exhaust 1-2hp intake 0hp ,jpipe 3-5hp HFPCs 1-2hp.
our cars suck for go fast mods and more so if you have a Slushbox tranny.
justnspace is right man lite weight is the way to go if you want to go fast on a Tl on a budget.
getting some RPF1 or any light wheels well probably make the TL a lot faster then
spending 3-4k on exhaust 1-2hp intake 0hp ,jpipe 3-5hp HFPCs 1-2hp.
our cars suck for go fast mods and more so if you have a Slushbox tranny.
slushbox if you can swap that torque convertor for a high performance one and I thought that it was a 10 up gain that we get from our cars when a j pipe is installed.
05-23-2017, 05:21 AM
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Okay, silly me, please explain how simply changing the torque converter will coax 10 extra horsepower out of your engine.
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05-23-2017, 05:32 PM
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@Jusonjack when you gonna come over and help my 2 tons RL doing 8 secs in the 1/4 miles? after all I have SH-AWD and VTAK, I would like to make "hell cat" become "pussy cat".
05-23-2017, 10:38 PM
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I never said it adds more horsepower, what I'm saying is that with a high performance torque convertor you will get a better delivery of torque to The engine compared to the stock convertor.
05-24-2017, 04:07 AM
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05-24-2017, 08:43 AM
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Bringing this back full-circle, the best advice has already been given to you; if you want a faster car, sell your car and buy something faster; it will cost you a heck of a lot less than modifying your current ride. Said another way, do your car and your wallet a favor, leave the car as close to stock as possible.
05-24-2017, 08:06 PM
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Bringing this back full-circle, the best advice has already been given to you; if you want a faster car, sell your car and buy something faster; it will cost you a heck of a lot less than modifying your current ride. Said another way, do your car and your wallet a favor, leave the car as close to stock as possible.
05-25-2017, 12:52 AM
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I once dump alot of money into car trying make slow car fast (Honda Accord V6), lesson learned. I won't mod any more, leave it stock its easier to sell stock car and no extra money dump in. If you trade the car in mods it actually decrease the trade in value. Also note all of my parts was top name brand and there were no Ebay or Autozone special used in the Accord, also the term "Performance" and "Cheap" do not mix together.
05-25-2017, 08:22 AM
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Man lol me too lesson learned never again.
jkilla then get those mods and be happy but don't
expect the Tl to be even slightly faster.
it is what it is the TL is a beautiful fast enough car. That's the way I look at it.
Other cars can be modded cheap and go faster
like evo and Sti. Heck a 335i can gain 100hp for a few bucks.
jkilla then get those mods and be happy but don't
expect the Tl to be even slightly faster.
it is what it is the TL is a beautiful fast enough car. That's the way I look at it.
Other cars can be modded cheap and go faster
like evo and Sti. Heck a 335i can gain 100hp for a few bucks.
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05-25-2017, 08:36 AM
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I once dump alot of money into car trying make slow car fast (Honda Accord V6), lesson learned. I won't mod any more, leave it stock its easier to sell stock car and no extra money dump in. If you trade the car in mods it actually decrease the trade in value. Also note all of my parts was top name brand and there were no Ebay or Autozone special used in the Accord, also the term "Performance" and "Cheap" do not mix together.
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05-25-2017, 08:48 AM
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So you don't make a lot of money and live at home with your parents since you don't pay any bills. There's nothing wrong with that, been there, but I didn't waste the little money I made on silly things. I'm guessing you would love to have a supercharged TL. Well things like that don't happen by accident. You need to work your ass off to get nicer things and be smart with your money. I think the point everyone is trying to get across is that in your situation, spending $2,000+ on all those mods you want is a bad idea at this time in your life.
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