integra92red

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Don't be a dick. It is unnecessary. If it bothers you that much don't bother to open the thread and read about it.

I'm curious to see what happens, I like the idea of the PCD power gains, but not the rasp either, there is nothing wrong with someone try to find the best of both.

Morrissey25

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^^^

blacktsx05

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i think the rasp is coming from not having a third cat because richies v3 gets rid of it...my resonator should arrive on weds and i will try to get it on thursday then ill see if it kills or helps out with that rasp.

the rasp will be there no matter what...but the gains are very impressive

on the day to honda day me and my buddy were doing some highway pulls and i was able to pull on him and stay in front of him in 2nd, 3rd, 4th gear..when i shifted into 5th he startesd passing me slowy

hey richie i ordered the 10416 but today i looked under the car and the oem resonator seems alot shorter then 14"

can you confirm this or do you know the size of the oem resonator?

tripled check everything and nothing is loose bro....

exactly dont be a dick....thanks Rob

the resonator will be here on weds and then ill post up a review with the magnaflow res

lilsid112

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I had the same sound from when I installed my pcd's and j pipe. I ended up buying a resonated third cat delete and no more rasp. I had this set up for a few months but I couldn't stand how the car smelled when it was idling in the garage. I ended up selling the pcd's but I've been debating about getting them again.

D's Up

What kind of car was your buddy in?

Richie v6

I measured 18" maybe someone could chime in with some pictures. I think you are suppose to them in serial.

blacktsx05

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06 s2k

07 tl-s couldnt keep up either i passed him without any issues

blacktsx05

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so do you think the one i ordered is too small? because its only 14 inches so will that make the rasp even louder because its smaller?

Richie v6

I am pretty sure you run the stock and the new one together.

KN_TL

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Yeah, you can run as many as you want. The only problem is that there is only so much tunnel space so that will restrict the amount.

The rasp won't get worse than it is now by adding a resonator or muffler. If you order a muffler, it will muffle the sound more than a resonator. Resonators are tuned devices based on frequencies so the sound may change. I am trying 2 resonators right now but I may end up replacing one with a muffler.

It's all trial and error.

Bayam0n

^doesn't this defeat the purpose of getting the PCD's and jpipe? doesnt the resonators and mufflers lower the gains?

integra92red

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I don't think it defeats the purpose, there's more gain from installing those pieces than loss from resonators and what not.

From what I've read though, isn't a resonator bottle neck minimal being a alteration of frequency compared to a smaller pipe or even a muffler bottle neck?

I think there is good balance yet to be found, and when it is found, i'll hop on the PCD bandwagon

Like KN said, trial and error.

Sonnick

If you go with a straight thru Magnaflow, you will not lose any power. I have the PCDs, RV6 V1 Jpipe, and a custom 3" exhaust with a Magnaflow 12641 (30" body) running to NO MUFFLERS and there is ZERO rasp. It's all in the resonator. I am getting my Dynomax Ultra Flows put on soon, which I'm really excited about. It's very loud right now, especially in the car since I'm running open Ypipe, which is right under the back seat.

A 14" resonator is most likely going to be too small. I'd suggest getting a 20" or larger with the PCDs.

Sonnick

Here's the bottom line:

If you don't want rasp with the PCDs, you need an extra resonator. Depending on which catback you go with, I'd suggest between a 14" (body) and 30" (body). Any of the straight thru Magnaflow mufflers between 14" - 30" would be a good choice. Like I said, I am running 3 inch piping from the test pipe back with a 30" body Magnaflow and I have no rasp. And that is without mufflers!! I have a video in this section (although I have an Accord 6MT). The sound is very similar to what a TL would sound like with the same mods, being that the motors are almost identical.

With that said, you will not lose performance with the straight thru mufflers because, well, they are straight thru. You will lose some steam with the baffled mufflers, but not with the straight thru design. Magnaflow has both the XL Turbo (baffled) and straight thru designs. Choose wisely. The straight thru mufflers are also quieter; a statement which came directly from Magnaflow himself

Don't be a fool, straight thru is cool

KN_TL

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Absolutely. I guess these guys need to do some reading.

KN_TL

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It is. I am trying another resonator but I have a feeling I will be getting a truck sized muffler again.

blacktsx05

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Rob, exactly all it does it change frequency

you should get the PCD you wont regret it

also i think if you go with a j pipe where it keeps the stock cat you wont have rasp. my neighbor use to have a v6 accord and he had richies v2 j pipe and his PCD he said he had no rasp

so i think with the v3 j pipe it eliminates the stock 3rd cat thats why i have rasp

me and richie spoke on the phone today and im gonna run the magnaflow and the oem resonator...pretty much from what i learned all it does is pretty much change the frequency of the sound but it wont effect the performance

CG2PROJECT

You need to get a spiral louvered resonator (glasspack) and it will get rid of the rasp. I can almost guarantee that it will get rid of it. I say this because I had the same problem with my setup and now it's gone. I figure it changes the sound waves. I'm not an engineer so I'm can't go into specifics. Before the resonator, it sounded like one of those bee-hive Civic exhausts.

I hate cars

It's completely normal in all brands of cars to have to run an extra muffler or resonator when removing cats if you don't want the rasp. This isn't just a TL thing.

Hissing is almost always a leak and sometimes how the rear muffler is designed. Running larger piping will usually help too but it will make it slightly louder.

blacktsx05

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***UPDATE***
resonator came in today im gonna try top get it installed tomorrow morning and then ill see if it kills the rasp or even helps out

Tmarks91

^Nice lemme kno how it sounds, or post a clip or something if ya can id love to hear the difference with the resonator

blacktsx05

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got the resonator installed today and all i can say is SEXY.....i love the exhaust note now. 95% of the rasp is gone it sounds soo good more throatier

i made a clip today when i was at work ill get it uploaded tonight

all i can say is rv6 v3 j pipe+rv6 v2 PCD+magnaflow res+stock exhaust = sexy ass exhaust note

warren4066

op that's the same set up i will be having soon, but with a dynomax resonator. good job

pearlUA7

with or without mid muffler?

hondazex

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pics under car if possible ?? thx

blacktsx05

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with

nothing changed but adding the resonator right after the v3 jpipe

WRXtranceformed

This is basically the same setup I'm contemplating so I'm curious to hear how it sounds also. I've already got the Magnaflow resonator welded in, I was going to do just the Jpipe, but if it doesn't sound to raspy/ricer I might pull the trigger on the PCD/Jpipe combo...

Richie v6

Very nice I am glad everything is finally resolved.

warren4066

op, wheres the clip?

integra92red

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Yeah, where is it? HURRY UP!

Tmarks91

damnn lemme hear of clip of what it sounds like im dying to kno

blacktsx05

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its on my phone lol

ive been busy the past couple of days

its on my phone but it doesnt capture the true sound from the exhaust...i dont wanna post the video and scare anybody because it picks up some gayy noise..let me try recording the video with my nikon to see if its any different

blacktsx05

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ok im at work so you have to bare with me i went out to record a video with my nikon..its better quality then my samsung captivate...i made three videos but the others are larger files so theyll take longer to upload. here is the first one again like the other videos i made i cannot capture the true sound from the exhaust. in the video it seems like rasp but its not. i only have rasp between 3500-4200 rpm..thats only if im crusing at city speed limit. at WOT there is no rasp at all because no much air is flowing through the exhaust.

i just wish i can capture the true sound of the exhaust, it sounds soo good IMO it has a deep growl and a nice throatier sound now after the resonator. i would recommend the richies jpipe and PCD to anyone. If you want to get rid of most of the rasp then get a magnaflow resonator and youll be almost rasp free

i will post the other videos when their done uploading. Enjoy and let me know what u think

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tSBqE4Uct7A

blacktsx05

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heres a drive by video not the greatest...had to sneak outta work for this before my parents notice i was gone lol

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JOT8h_9IUXU

and here is a video from inside the cabin...i had to rig the camera around the headrest so its not the greatest angle..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LiDHvziBfxo

conclusion i love this exhaust up!!!

JackSampson

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Excellent write up. I have been contemplating getting either pcd's or custom cat back. I think I am going with pcd's since they are guaranteed power and not too expensive.

Richie v6

Awesome! Maybe a mod can add the details in the title.

blacktsx05

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you gotta hear the exhaust in person it sounds soo good it has a nice growl when you step on it..the guy ask me at the gas station today hat type of exhaust is on my car and i said stock he almost shit his pants...sounds kinda like a german sports sedan

i just wish i can capture the true sound of the exhaust

hondazex

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excellent im ordered 10426 the 18' for a test if better than 14' !!

great post

JackSampson

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Wow you are putting on an 18 foot resonator. Might stick out bit!!!!

Hahaha just messing with you man. Good luck. Post sound clips when done.

WRXtranceformed

Thanks much blacktsx, those vids were very helpful. That exhaust setup sounds sick, so I'm pretty sure I'm going to pull the trigger on the PCDs and Jpipe now