Speeden6

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Ok, so I am sure someone is going to say search, and I did without avail to the answer I wanted / need.

I am running Nitrous in my TL. 2006 5AT 75 Wet Shot. although it is not needed I want to go 1 step colder plug to help prevent pre detonation.

Calling the dealer they had no clue what I was talking about and after even talking to the service manager his response was "1 Step colder plug? Spark plug? I have never even heard that phrase before no clue what you are talking about". Ah, Dealer Service techs, worth every penny!

So, I got the stock plug, called NGK tech support and the stock plug through NGK is a IZFR6K11. after reviewing the car, year and Nitrous he said that the BKR7EIX at a 0.35 Gap should be more than enough. It is 1 step colder and a safe gap for the platform.

Anyone confirm this is a good / right plug for our platform on Turbo, Supercharger or more importantly to me, Nitrous?

Thanks I greatly Appreciate the help!

KN_TL

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I'm running NGK 8's myself and go the old school method of looking at the plug after some WOT runs.

04 TL 04

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Just wondering how your fuel and ignition timing is set up?

Speeden6

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Everything is stock, no tune. there is no tune for my ECU. And when it comes to running the boost / Spray you dont want to just run some WOT pulls and check to see if everything is ok lol

KN_TL

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Assumed that you already had baseline AF and had timings set.......running with no ability to tune isn't optimal. LOL

Speeden6

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Yes, and I know its not optimal however its not really optional either. Mega Squirt is my only option and no one around here tunes it or even knows how to use it. so then you move to a Type S ECU Upgrade which is a huge project and pain. With the research I have done on forums, vendors, manufactures and people using, 100 is the max for stock J series motor, and less is better. cant say its "safe" cause not even turbo upgrades are "safe".

Not even required to upgrade the plugs at the level I'm running however would rather be safer than sorry.

gerzand

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I used BKR7EIX's for 100 shot and 8's for a 250 shot with cams and a tune among other work with no detonation. Get rid if those cats though per your sig...you're begging for a clogged one.

Speeden6

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Thanks!!!!!!!!!!!! and I am so on the fence about the Pre Cats cause I am running upgraded cat back with Magnaflows and I dont want to get to loud. Thought about just Hallowing out the stockers.

FamilyGuy

What cat and pre-cats are you using at the moment, and why would they clog?

Speeden6

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I am running stock for both, maybe clog from over heating and melting, carbon build up from extra burn out from the engine. who konws.

Pghpizzaman

if gerzand speaks, listen! he knows his shit. if i were you i would at least get a wideband and see where your at. you are playing with fire not tuning it.

Speeden6

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Yeah, I am getting a Wide band, and I trust him, sent him a PM too hoping to hear back.

bouncer07

Gerzand is the man.

" Typically, for every 75-100 hp you add, you should go one step colder on the spark plug's heat range. "

jiga21

so for someone naturally aspirated making 75hp+.....Would they have to go 1 step colder, plus another step colder to accommodate for 100shot nitrous ?

Speeden6

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depends, some would say yes, some would say no. if you were forced induction I personally would say yes.

jiga21

Im all motor sitting @ 305whp sae, but just to be safe 2 steps colder...good to know for future reference, thanks

Speeden6

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you have a 3G TL with no super, turbo or Nitrous, and you are at 305 WHP? what mods do you have?

anx1300c

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I wouldn't call it "huge" project. But regardless, I thought you were 5AT?

Speeden6

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I am a 5at in an 06. and its not huge, its wiring, swaping ECU's and finding someone to tune.

satinsbullet13

So if someone was to run a simple 50 shot, would they bother going a step down and would you still recommend a tune?

Speeden6

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Only reason I am going a step down is because i plan on going a step up in nitrous in the future. I am in no rush to do it so not it is not needed.

any modification 'Should" have a tune. but from my research not required until you are at 100 shot. again, this is for a wet system. Dry is a totally different story. For dry systems you need tunes because you need to adjust your fuel trims to make up for the added nitrous. a wet system taps into your fuel line and pulls the extra needed gas itself and pre mixes in the nozzle.

anx1300c

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The 04-06' 5ATs can't run Flashpro. You could technically do it, but you'd have to swap transmissions with an 07-08' 5AT. Those have an extra solenoid that the 04-06' is lacking. Now we're definitely in huge territory.

KN_TL

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The other option is the MS3. Then you can also control the nitrous with it.

Speeden6

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Yeah however MS3 takes some ECU wiring, and no one around here has any experience with it. I have called so many shops! I dont get into tuning. I did on my Mazda and it was over whelming for me.

jiga21

Full boltons dyno tuned...
Some Boltons are bored, ported, oversized & fuel system is upgraded
Its an accord btw 3.0

So 2 steps colder or 1 ?

Speeden6

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Dyno tuned. 1 step. go 2 you will want to re tune would be my suggestion. if you are tuned. you dont even need to go a step colder.

jiga21

I def favor retune for everything, almost went to go re dyno tune for crankpulley & lightweight wheels.. Thanks for info/opinion