RV6 V2 True Dual Exhaust for '04-'08 TL Type-S Quads Batch 2 Collecting deposits
06-20-2012, 10:02 AM
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^^^ you dont even know what kind of rasp the PCD's produce....the jpipe rasp is nothing when compared...
Justn, can elaborate on that
Justn, can elaborate on that
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06-20-2012, 10:08 AM
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^^^woke up feeling froggy today, huh smart guy? Do you even have a jpipe?!
I distinctly remember you telling me that the jpipe doesn't add any rasp. Same day I decided I would stop taking your advice as gospel. I've done more research on this than you'd ever acknowledge.
Have you heard PCD's on a stock jpipe with the intact rear cat? Have you heard it with rear cat AND stock catback with 3rd muffler and resonator? It makes it worse, but the PCD or HFPC alone are NOT what make the rasp.
I distinctly remember you telling me that the jpipe doesn't add any rasp. Same day I decided I would stop taking your advice as gospel. I've done more research on this than you'd ever acknowledge.
Have you heard PCD's on a stock jpipe with the intact rear cat? Have you heard it with rear cat AND stock catback with 3rd muffler and resonator? It makes it worse, but the PCD or HFPC alone are NOT what make the rasp.
06-20-2012, 10:17 AM
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^^^ yes you stopped taking my advice when you were switching out your cats wait maybe it was before you got the intake filter or maybe when it was when you were gonna use the exhaust wrap to wrap your intake....
I have had the PCD's on a stock Jpipe/cats intact and yes there was RASP....when i opened up the rest of the exhaust (now before you find something sarcastic to say about that, when you have a free flowing exhaust and not a Stage 45356) the rasp got worse....
just but adding a 24" resonator or 2x18" resonator as you planned doesnt make your exhaust sound/flow better...if you looks closely at the Rv6 true duals you will notice only 1 small 2 inlet/2 outlet muffler which is no longer than 16-18 inches (assuming from the pix)....
again start your research and this time dont use exhaust wrap on your intake....
I have had the PCD's on a stock Jpipe/cats intact and yes there was RASP....when i opened up the rest of the exhaust (now before you find something sarcastic to say about that, when you have a free flowing exhaust and not a Stage 45356) the rasp got worse....
just but adding a 24" resonator or 2x18" resonator as you planned doesnt make your exhaust sound/flow better...if you looks closely at the Rv6 true duals you will notice only 1 small 2 inlet/2 outlet muffler which is no longer than 16-18 inches (assuming from the pix)....
again start your research and this time dont use exhaust wrap on your intake....
06-20-2012, 10:27 AM
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Me, Hey Anil, would wrapping the exhaust help with the rasp. Your response, it's not going to help because it's from exhaust pulses etc (I'm not sure you properly quoted whoever gave YOU that explanation). Then, 3 months later you come back and wrap your entire exhaust and claim your wife says your exhaust is super quiet now. So I followed suit and it did make a difference, to me too. So you're welcome for the idea then? I don't know?
You could flip a coin to try and figure out which one of us is more full of sh*t. The problem is you don't like when people take your advice under consideration (which IS appreciated) and then make their own educated decisions.
Paying $1500 for an exhaust, or $2000 for a custom setup to free up ~ 10 HP alone, isn't me so feel free to tell me I'm not welcome in this thread.
Hence my questions, which have remained unanswered:
1) when will the base tips that are being designed come out?
2) will there be a price drop once the product is easier to produce?
Until then, all I want is as little rasp as possible, and better sound or it's not worth it to me. And as far as you knocking the use of resonators, YES, they do change the sound and YES, this very vendor from this thread sells a particularly LONG Magnaflow resonator as a solution to any and all rasp from the PCD and or Jpipe.
You could flip a coin to try and figure out which one of us is more full of sh*t. The problem is you don't like when people take your advice under consideration (which IS appreciated) and then make their own educated decisions.
Paying $1500 for an exhaust, or $2000 for a custom setup to free up ~ 10 HP alone, isn't me so feel free to tell me I'm not welcome in this thread.
Hence my questions, which have remained unanswered:
1) when will the base tips that are being designed come out?
2) will there be a price drop once the product is easier to produce?
Until then, all I want is as little rasp as possible, and better sound or it's not worth it to me. And as far as you knocking the use of resonators, YES, they do change the sound and YES, this very vendor from this thread sells a particularly LONG Magnaflow resonator as a solution to any and all rasp from the PCD and or Jpipe.
06-20-2012, 10:31 AM
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^^^ there is exactly where you go wrong buddy....coz you dont give out the credit...
you exchanged a dozen PM's asking about how to go about installing the procats and no reference....then with the exhaust wrap, i told you to wrap the jpipe rather than selling it and no reference....then i told you not to sell the jpipe at the price you had marked it as it wont sell, same thing....
and about my exhaust....yes it was 1800 with taxes (9.5% KS tax doesnt help and damn state charges taxes on labor + parts and not parts alone...$150-160 was paid in taxes...either way) and i got 30 minutes of free dyno time ($100) which i have yet to use....finally,
Richie's Exhaust = 1450 + shipping = 1550 (lets say)
Richie's Jpipe = $450
Total = $2000
so I still came in $300 short for 10 more HP are you said....sounds like a hell of a good deal to me
EDIT: nothing is wrong with using your own brain....you are a smart person....i take advices from tons of people and device my own way out....sometimes its crash and burn and i learn my lesson...the other times its a new route which i device....but none the less, i never refrain from shouting out to people who have helped out....you tend to keep the credit and show it as you knew it all along....exactly the way you displayed with the exhaust wrap....
it doesnt bother me coz i really dont care is someone sitting miles away gives me credit for what am doing....i honestly do it coz i like doing it....even thow we had a rough patch couple weeks back, i reached out to you if you wanted that exhaust because its what I do here....i help out members and i get the same response...there are a ton of people who have helped me out and i owe it all to them....
you exchanged a dozen PM's asking about how to go about installing the procats and no reference....then with the exhaust wrap, i told you to wrap the jpipe rather than selling it and no reference....then i told you not to sell the jpipe at the price you had marked it as it wont sell, same thing....
and about my exhaust....yes it was 1800 with taxes (9.5% KS tax doesnt help and damn state charges taxes on labor + parts and not parts alone...$150-160 was paid in taxes...either way) and i got 30 minutes of free dyno time ($100) which i have yet to use....finally,
Richie's Exhaust = 1450 + shipping = 1550 (lets say)
Richie's Jpipe = $450
Total = $2000
so I still came in $300 short for 10 more HP are you said....sounds like a hell of a good deal to me
EDIT: nothing is wrong with using your own brain....you are a smart person....i take advices from tons of people and device my own way out....sometimes its crash and burn and i learn my lesson...the other times its a new route which i device....but none the less, i never refrain from shouting out to people who have helped out....you tend to keep the credit and show it as you knew it all along....exactly the way you displayed with the exhaust wrap....
it doesnt bother me coz i really dont care is someone sitting miles away gives me credit for what am doing....i honestly do it coz i like doing it....even thow we had a rough patch couple weeks back, i reached out to you if you wanted that exhaust because its what I do here....i help out members and i get the same response...there are a ton of people who have helped me out and i owe it all to them....
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06-20-2012, 10:41 AM
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06-20-2012, 10:50 AM
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I thanked you in about 3 different threads for the work you put in for the switchbacks...and thanked you for making the coupon codes for everyone. How do you respond?! Something along the lines of, "yeah, I'm pretty awesome, huh". I didn't give you credit for the exhaust wrap cause you shot down my question about wrapping it a few months ago claiming it wouldn't do anything for the rasp, then come back and wrap it and say it does work.
You're always contradicting yourself and never acknowledging it. Maybe it's a personal thing, or a cultural thing, I don't know. Even above, you say I never give credit then say that you don't do it for the credit and you don't care about it.
Like I said, we're both full of sh*t...just more some days than others. I don't hold it against you and clearly you don't either...
HENCE, my other 2 ON TOPIC questions to the vendor!
And for the record, I mentioned the custom setup, but wasn't knocking your decision to go that route rather than getting a prefab one. Was just mentioning that for it to only satisfy ONE of my desires, it wasn't worth the money for the HP for me.
You're always contradicting yourself and never acknowledging it. Maybe it's a personal thing, or a cultural thing, I don't know. Even above, you say I never give credit then say that you don't do it for the credit and you don't care about it.
Like I said, we're both full of sh*t...just more some days than others. I don't hold it against you and clearly you don't either...
HENCE, my other 2 ON TOPIC questions to the vendor!
And for the record, I mentioned the custom setup, but wasn't knocking your decision to go that route rather than getting a prefab one. Was just mentioning that for it to only satisfy ONE of my desires, it wasn't worth the money for the HP for me.
06-20-2012, 10:56 AM
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^^^ there is exactly where you go wrong buddy....coz you dont give out the credit...
you exchanged a dozen PM's asking about how to go about installing the procats and no reference....then with the exhaust wrap, i told you to wrap the jpipe rather than selling it and no reference....then i told you not to sell the jpipe at the price you had marked it as it wont sell, same thing....
and about my exhaust....yes it was 1800 with taxes (9.5% KS tax doesnt help and damn state charges taxes on labor + parts and not parts alone...$150-160 was paid in taxes...either way) and i got 30 minutes of free dyno time ($100) which i have yet to use....finally,
Richie's Exhaust = 1450 + shipping = 1550 (lets say)
Richie's Jpipe = $450
Total = $2000
so I still came in $300 short for 10 more HP are you said....sounds like a hell of a good deal to me
EDIT: nothing is wrong with using your own brain....you are a smart person....i take advices from tons of people and device my own way out....sometimes its crash and burn and i learn my lesson...the other times its a new route which i device....but none the less, i never refrain from shouting out to people who have helped out....you tend to keep the credit and show it as you knew it all along....exactly the way you displayed with the exhaust wrap....
it doesnt bother me coz i really dont care is someone sitting miles away gives me credit for what am doing....i honestly do it coz i like doing it....even thow we had a rough patch couple weeks back, i reached out to you if you wanted that exhaust because its what I do here....i help out members and i get the same response...there are a ton of people who have helped me out and i owe it all to them....
you exchanged a dozen PM's asking about how to go about installing the procats and no reference....then with the exhaust wrap, i told you to wrap the jpipe rather than selling it and no reference....then i told you not to sell the jpipe at the price you had marked it as it wont sell, same thing....
and about my exhaust....yes it was 1800 with taxes (9.5% KS tax doesnt help and damn state charges taxes on labor + parts and not parts alone...$150-160 was paid in taxes...either way) and i got 30 minutes of free dyno time ($100) which i have yet to use....finally,
Richie's Exhaust = 1450 + shipping = 1550 (lets say)
Richie's Jpipe = $450
Total = $2000
so I still came in $300 short for 10 more HP are you said....sounds like a hell of a good deal to me
EDIT: nothing is wrong with using your own brain....you are a smart person....i take advices from tons of people and device my own way out....sometimes its crash and burn and i learn my lesson...the other times its a new route which i device....but none the less, i never refrain from shouting out to people who have helped out....you tend to keep the credit and show it as you knew it all along....exactly the way you displayed with the exhaust wrap....
it doesnt bother me coz i really dont care is someone sitting miles away gives me credit for what am doing....i honestly do it coz i like doing it....even thow we had a rough patch couple weeks back, i reached out to you if you wanted that exhaust because its what I do here....i help out members and i get the same response...there are a ton of people who have helped me out and i owe it all to them....
well, lets be honest. what you did, was take this exhaust idea, and copy it as closely as possible.
why would any of us listen to you?
YOU asked me all these questions, and had literally zero idea what you were doing until I pointed out things for you. Do you give me credit every time you pull out all this CFM math I laid out for you? When I gave you the building blocks? What about richie? You keep running around telling people to just get a custom built one at a shop. Is that not fair?
'hey guys, richie does all this for us, but go ahead and take the route around him, copying his work'
really? YOU talk about credit? Half the forum has more knowledge then you. You only regurgitate, and let me tell you, a LOT of it is completely incorrect. Notice, how I do not interject my knowledge at every turn...and I've read ~10 books on alllllllll this shit...
either way, anil, stop being a whiny bitch about it all. you don't get paid for this, stop acting like someone takes money out of your pocket.
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06-20-2012, 11:07 AM
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^^^The points about the Richie stuff, I found ironic as I'd thought of that too. Even in the vendor's own thread he ended up outing the fact that he feels like a winner for NOT buying his product. And to think, he's telling people where they should have business posting in who's thread.
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06-20-2012, 11:15 AM
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I thanked you in about 3 different threads for the work you put in for the switchbacks...and thanked you for making the coupon codes for everyone. How do you respond?! Something along the lines of, "yeah, I'm pretty awesome, huh". I didn't give you credit for the exhaust wrap cause you shot down my question about wrapping it a few months ago claiming it wouldn't do anything for the rasp, then come back and wrap it and say it does work.
You're always contradicting yourself and never acknowledging it. Maybe it's a personal thing, or a cultural thing, I don't know. Even above, you say I never give credit then say that you don't do it for the credit and you don't care about it.
Like I said, we're both full of sh*t...just more some days than others. I don't hold it against you and clearly you don't either...
HENCE, my other 2 ON TOPIC questions to the vendor!
And for the record, I mentioned the custom setup, but wasn't knocking your decision to go that route rather than getting a prefab one. Was just mentioning that for it to only satisfy ONE of my desires, it wasn't worth the money for the HP for me.
You're always contradicting yourself and never acknowledging it. Maybe it's a personal thing, or a cultural thing, I don't know. Even above, you say I never give credit then say that you don't do it for the credit and you don't care about it.
Like I said, we're both full of sh*t...just more some days than others. I don't hold it against you and clearly you don't either...
HENCE, my other 2 ON TOPIC questions to the vendor!
And for the record, I mentioned the custom setup, but wasn't knocking your decision to go that route rather than getting a prefab one. Was just mentioning that for it to only satisfy ONE of my desires, it wasn't worth the money for the HP for me.
cultural thing ??? you being racist ??? and yes am the one who is going back and forth on my decisions of removing and putting back on my jpipe and the rear wing spoiler
i try different things and if 1 solution doesnt work, i try another....maybe you do the same thing over and over again expecting different results??? beats me....
well, lets be honest. what you did, was take this exhaust idea, and copy it as closely as possible.
why would any of us listen to you?
YOU asked me all these questions, and had literally zero idea what you were doing until I pointed out things for you. Do you give me credit every time you pull out all this CFM math I laid out for you? When I gave you the building blocks? What about richie? You keep running around telling people to just get a custom built one at a shop. Is that not fair?
'hey guys, richie does all this for us, but go ahead and take the route around him, copying his work'
really? YOU talk about credit? Half the forum has more knowledge then you. You only regurgitate, and let me tell you, a LOT of it is completely incorrect. Notice, how I do not interject my knowledge at every turn...and I've read ~10 books on alllllllll this shit...
either way, anil, stop being a whiny bitch about it all. you don't get paid for this, stop acting like someone takes money out of your pocket.
why would any of us listen to you?
YOU asked me all these questions, and had literally zero idea what you were doing until I pointed out things for you. Do you give me credit every time you pull out all this CFM math I laid out for you? When I gave you the building blocks? What about richie? You keep running around telling people to just get a custom built one at a shop. Is that not fair?
'hey guys, richie does all this for us, but go ahead and take the route around him, copying his work'
really? YOU talk about credit? Half the forum has more knowledge then you. You only regurgitate, and let me tell you, a LOT of it is completely incorrect. Notice, how I do not interject my knowledge at every turn...and I've read ~10 books on alllllllll this shit...
either way, anil, stop being a whiny bitch about it all. you don't get paid for this, stop acting like someone takes money out of your pocket.
when people say they dont have 1600 to spend on an exhaust and have only 600-700, at that point i tell them to go custom....if you have 1500-1600, fuck yeah go with one of the vendors....
either way, where did the true dual idea come from:
https://acurazine.com/forums/3g-tl-performance-parts-modifications-112/going-custom-exhaust-all-way-need-help-754624/
and everyone who helped me on this thread to decide were mentioned in my thread:
https://acurazine.com/forums/3g-tl-performance-parts-modifications-112/acurazines-first-true-dual-exhaust-3g-tl-updated-vids-pg-4-a-829912/
i dont even think you were on that thread....2nd its not about money for all of us, particularly me....its more about respect....
finally, i never say i know it all....i say i know nothing and am here to learn...
either way, i think am pretty much done with both you guys....
06-20-2012, 11:24 AM
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Instead of reflecting on why you get the same reaction from other senior, nice, and helpful members. You took the approach that is true to your nature, unfortunately.
What do my mind changes on aesthetic, or sounds for my car have to do with whatever you're upset about? That was pretty left field.
First of all, India is not a race, it's a Country. Why are you sensitive about that? I'm from Switzerland and Mexico primarily...so have at it if you feel the need. I mentioned it because depending on where you grow up, who you grow up around and your cultural backround, it affects how you are. That was all.
What do my mind changes on aesthetic, or sounds for my car have to do with whatever you're upset about? That was pretty left field.
First of all, India is not a race, it's a Country. Why are you sensitive about that? I'm from Switzerland and Mexico primarily...so have at it if you feel the need. I mentioned it because depending on where you grow up, who you grow up around and your cultural backround, it affects how you are.
That was all.
06-20-2012, 11:25 AM
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What the hell is going on here?????
Guys, guys, guys.....
What is all this stuff?
What was once a good thread has reduced itself to bickering amongst what I thought were friends and knowledgeable people.
Can't we all just get along here?
Let's shake hands, be friends again and act like gentlemen.
What is all this stuff?
What was once a good thread has reduced itself to bickering amongst what I thought were friends and knowledgeable people.
Can't we all just get along here?
Let's shake hands, be friends again and act like gentlemen.
06-20-2012, 11:30 AM
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But, but, but Stevennnnnnn. This is so much more entertaining 
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06-20-2012, 11:31 AM
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Steven, I couldn't agree with you more. I have no actual problem with Anil. Since you see him in person, please impress on him to relax, I feel like I'm not welcome to post my thoughts and ideas freely in this forum anymore and for someone like me, that is always looking to innovate and share...it's stifling as much as it is sad. I'm not saying I don't need to back off too, but I am saying I've tried many times to get through to him without avail.
J.
Anil, if all you were looking for was acknowledgment and thanks. Then you have that from me...for anything you've done that HAS helped me or given me new ideas. I'm sorry if you felt I didn't appreciate it because I didn't follow your exact advice or make my thanks clear enough.
J.
Anil, if all you were looking for was acknowledgment and thanks. Then you have that from me...for anything you've done that HAS helped me or given me new ideas. I'm sorry if you felt I didn't appreciate it because I didn't follow your exact advice or make my thanks clear enough.
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06-20-2012, 11:35 AM
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For some reason (maybe I missed it?) Anil has been 'picking wounds' and to me it seems like he's been hoping to start something.
I could not resist saying my piece about his attitude and views on credit though. For now, I will bow out.
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06-20-2012, 01:32 PM
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Guys, I appreciate everyone posting after my "observation". You guys are all friends on this forum. It should stay that way. Life is too short for bickering. Besides, all of you are too good of people to be doing this to one another anyway.
Like I said before, shake hands, wipe the slate clean, help each other out, have respect for one another.
And Noober, no-we are not trashing up any other threads. I know you're just kidding, even though there is no red text, but still......
Like I said before, shake hands, wipe the slate clean, help each other out, have respect for one another.
And Noober, no-we are not trashing up any other threads. I know you're just kidding, even though there is no red text, but still......
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06-21-2012, 09:13 PM
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very patient is right people have been waiting 5+ months for this exhaust system so if your in a super hurry to get exhaust this isnt the one for you. But quality takes time and i would rather wait to get best then settle for something else.
@rockstar, looks like i will be embracing the rasp !
06-21-2012, 10:00 PM
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06-23-2012, 02:51 PM
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Still curious for any new progress updates!
Richie - any thoughts on the potential completion for the lower end of the list (i.e. #20)?
Pics are appreciated if you have the time... Need something to tide us over - thanks
Richie - any thoughts on the potential completion for the lower end of the list (i.e. #20)?
Pics are appreciated if you have the time... Need something to tide us over - thanks
06-24-2012, 11:12 PM
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No real updates. We sent the mufflers and resonators out for some touch up polishing and Ling (RV6 Chick) be warping them up in a protective wrap early this week. The bends are due to be finished up before Weds. Once those get in we will start fabing up systems as fast as we can. There is another 600ft of tubing coming from Minnesota in the next 3-7 days that needs to be polished before being set out to bending. We are keeping very busy. The systems will be sent out in the order of deposit.
