Purpose of jpipes
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really? hmmm I didnt hear any rasp at all, Ill take another listen, to me it sounded to have more tone then stock and that was it.... listen to some videos with TL's with ANY aftermarket exhaust and the RASP is horrible.
Anyhow I will experiment with the setup post videos, good news is the mid mufler could always be added back on.. Ill keep you posted.
Anyhow I will experiment with the setup post videos, good news is the mid mufler could always be added back on.. Ill keep you posted.
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Thanks for all the input. To me it seems it's all a matter of efficiency and decreased work on the engine which in turn results in greater power availability and/or fuel efficiency. All the physics behind this makes sense and is kind of intuitive.....but I never did that well in Physics .
I'm in this car for the long run so I have no problem dropping cash on items that may not benefit performance a ton right away. I'm pretty sure over several years it will be a good investment. I'm probably in this car for 6-8 years. I've typically hung onto my cars for about that long. Heck, if she's running well after 8 years I might pass her on to my son. He'll be 16 by then .
Anyway, I'm leaning toward the RV6. I get my bonus the end of the month so I'll make a decision then. As is, this car is such a huge upgrade from the '99 Accord 4-cyl I was sporting, that wanting more power makes me feel greedy! But hey, if it doesn't come at the expense of MPG I'm all for it (MPG's kind of important since it's a daily driver.....).
And Opel, it's all good. I probably sounded like a prick in my response anyway. Water under the bridge.
I'm in this car for the long run so I have no problem dropping cash on items that may not benefit performance a ton right away. I'm pretty sure over several years it will be a good investment. I'm probably in this car for 6-8 years. I've typically hung onto my cars for about that long. Heck, if she's running well after 8 years I might pass her on to my son. He'll be 16 by then .
Anyway, I'm leaning toward the RV6. I get my bonus the end of the month so I'll make a decision then. As is, this car is such a huge upgrade from the '99 Accord 4-cyl I was sporting, that wanting more power makes me feel greedy! But hey, if it doesn't come at the expense of MPG I'm all for it (MPG's kind of important since it's a daily driver.....).
And Opel, it's all good. I probably sounded like a prick in my response anyway. Water under the bridge.
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Well, I pulled the trigger on it. Order an RV6 V3 today. And no kidding on customer service. Ordered at around 2:00pm MST and got an email two hours later that FedEx had picked it up. I'm already impressed and I haven't even received it yet .
Any tips on installation? I'm planning on doing it myself. I've spent plenty of time under a car, but haven't done a lot of exhaust work. From what I've read it's mostly removal of the bolts/nuts that tends to be the PITA. I've got a torch if needed. I don't have a breaker bar but I'll have to pick one up if worst comes to worst.
Any tips on installation? I'm planning on doing it myself. I've spent plenty of time under a car, but haven't done a lot of exhaust work. From what I've read it's mostly removal of the bolts/nuts that tends to be the PITA. I've got a torch if needed. I don't have a breaker bar but I'll have to pick one up if worst comes to worst.
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Very loosely install the nuts/bolts until you get everything in place (front, back, hangers, etc).
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Also make sure you consider each of the j-pipe designs. Each j-pipe on the market uses a different grade steel and a different design.
XLR8 J-pipe - T304 SS (Domestic) with equal length runners and 2.5" collector
ATLP J-pipe - 439 SS with 2.5" collector
RV6 J-pipe - 304 SS (Overseas) with 2.5" exit (eliminates 3rd cat)
What is the difference between 304 and 439 stainless steel and what are the advantages in using 304 over 439?
It sounds like 304 cost more than 439.
http://www.solarwaterworks.com/downl...elOverview.pdf
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What is the difference between 304 and 439 stainless steel and what are the advantages in using 304 over 439?
It sounds like 304 cost more than 439.
http://www.solarwaterworks.com/downl...elOverview.pdf
It sounds like 304 cost more than 439.
http://www.solarwaterworks.com/downl...elOverview.pdf
Carbon, C <= 0.080 %
Chromium, Cr 18.0 - 20.0 %
Iron, Fe 66.345 - 74.0 %
Manganese, Mn <= 2.0 %
Nickel, Ni 8.0 - 10.5 %
Phosphorous, P <= 0.045 %
Silicon, Si <= 1.0 %
Sulfur, S <= 0.030 %
439 SS Composition
Carbon, C 0.0700 %
Chromium, Cr 18.0 %
Iron, Fe 78.33 %
Manganese, Mn 1.00 %
Nickel, Ni 0.500 %
Silicon, Si 1.00 %
Titanium, Ti 1.10 %
304 is harder and denser than 439. Due to its high nickel and arguably higher chromium content, 304 is better at corrosion resistance.
source: www.matweb.com
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Well, I got the jpipe today. No sooner did I get it out of the box that I had the TL up on jack stands. Took about an hour to get the old one off and another to get the new one on. I didn't think the reinstall would take that long but I had a couple of the bolts stripped a bit so I had to give the new nuts a good deal of elbow grease to get em good and tight.
I'm excited to drive to work tomorrow. I'm not expecting a night and day difference but hopefully I'll notice a little something. I'll post some pictures tomorrow, though none of them are anything anyone hasn't seen before Thanks for the tips and advice in this thread BTW. It was helpful.
Oh, didn't notice any difference in the sound. Well, I did at first when I realized that I hadn't quite tightened up the nuts well enough But that was an exhaust leakOnce I tightened things up proper it sounded just like before. I'll take it out on the road tomorrow and see if I hear anything different. Not expecting it, since most say they don't notice a big sound difference.
I'm excited to drive to work tomorrow. I'm not expecting a night and day difference but hopefully I'll notice a little something. I'll post some pictures tomorrow, though none of them are anything anyone hasn't seen before Thanks for the tips and advice in this thread BTW. It was helpful.
Oh, didn't notice any difference in the sound. Well, I did at first when I realized that I hadn't quite tightened up the nuts well enough But that was an exhaust leakOnce I tightened things up proper it sounded just like before. I'll take it out on the road tomorrow and see if I hear anything different. Not expecting it, since most say they don't notice a big sound difference.
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^good job!
i think that most will notice a sound difference with an aftermarket exhaust. my exhaust tone definitely changed (for the better) after i installed the v3 jpipe. just sounds more free flowing, less drone and less "obnoxious loud" exhaust noise...sounds smoother all around.
love it.
i think that most will notice a sound difference with an aftermarket exhaust. my exhaust tone definitely changed (for the better) after i installed the v3 jpipe. just sounds more free flowing, less drone and less "obnoxious loud" exhaust noise...sounds smoother all around.
love it.
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^i think Richie is taking pre-orders for a 2nd batch.
from this thread....
https://acurazine.com/forums/showthr...773591&page=22
Originally Posted by Richie v6
We are having a pre order sale for the next batch. The V3 Jpipe is currently sold out.
https://acurazine.com/forums/showthr...773591&page=22
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Yes as some actually are smart enough to LOOK for the Cats.
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Yup...lol. G2 love smart feds like NC. This is why I'll happily be doing XLR8's J-pipe vs. worry about not being let on the road to drive the car I purchased over a difference of 3-5hp Woo-Hoo!!!.
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I put it at the soft setting. Next week, I'm installing a drop.
I'll switch it to the stiff setting, then.
Impressions?
I didnt know what to expect with a stiffer bar. As its my first time modding a car, let alone messing with suspension. It's not as big as a difference as the automatics 17mm to 24mm.
On the soft setting, I could feel my car being braced a little more. I could not get the rear end to swing out like most of the reviews. But it does fill a little more planted during cornering.
I'm suspecting my drop and changing it to the stiffer setting will have more of an impact.
Also, my tires are worn.
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Yes stage 4 exhaust IMO sounds horrid.
If I could find a cheap stock S exhaust I would experiment with the piping size...
Dont forget by doing the RV6 v3 Jpipe it eliminates the 3rd cat, so thats what you should look at getting.
So what I am going do, is throw the rv6 Jpipe v3 on, and remove ONLY my stock Mid Muffler, and see what type of sound that gives me. I think it will be clean and slightly more tone then stock. Here is exactly what I am looking for, no ricer sound just an aggressive clean tone.
Stock for comparison:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8xNll_FugZU&feature=fvw
This kid removed his 3rd cat ( which is what the J-pipe will do) and his mid muffler, so I predict my sound to be close to this, if not identical.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=su_1gi3A4ho
I was interested in the pre-cat deletes, however I need to do more research as there is A LOT of back and fourth about losing torque and that is the last thing I want.... so I guess Ill have to do more reading ....
If I could find a cheap stock S exhaust I would experiment with the piping size...
Dont forget by doing the RV6 v3 Jpipe it eliminates the 3rd cat, so thats what you should look at getting.
So what I am going do, is throw the rv6 Jpipe v3 on, and remove ONLY my stock Mid Muffler, and see what type of sound that gives me. I think it will be clean and slightly more tone then stock. Here is exactly what I am looking for, no ricer sound just an aggressive clean tone.
Stock for comparison:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8xNll_FugZU&feature=fvw
This kid removed his 3rd cat ( which is what the J-pipe will do) and his mid muffler, so I predict my sound to be close to this, if not identical.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=su_1gi3A4ho
I was interested in the pre-cat deletes, however I need to do more research as there is A LOT of back and fourth about losing torque and that is the last thing I want.... so I guess Ill have to do more reading ....
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spent today, getting the RSB on.
I put it at the soft setting. Next week, I'm installing a drop.
I'll switch it to the stiff setting, then.
Impressions?
I didnt know what to expect with a stiffer bar. As its my first time modding a car, let alone messing with suspension. It's not as big as a difference as the automatics 17mm to 24mm.
On the soft setting, I could feel my car being braced a little more. I could not get the rear end to swing out like most of the reviews. But it does fill a little more planted during cornering.
I'm suspecting my drop and changing it to the stiffer setting will have more of an impact.
Also, my tires are worn.
I put it at the soft setting. Next week, I'm installing a drop.
I'll switch it to the stiff setting, then.
Impressions?
I didnt know what to expect with a stiffer bar. As its my first time modding a car, let alone messing with suspension. It's not as big as a difference as the automatics 17mm to 24mm.
On the soft setting, I could feel my car being braced a little more. I could not get the rear end to swing out like most of the reviews. But it does fill a little more planted during cornering.
I'm suspecting my drop and changing it to the stiffer setting will have more of an impact.
Also, my tires are worn.
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Dont think, I'll drop it until I get the koni's.
I did purchase the H&R springs tho, 1.3 F and 1.4 R.
Switching lanes has been improved with the sway bar at soft setting.
I'm pretty content with the setup, MAYBE just maybe I'll switch it to the stiffer setting. Heck, I wont know if I'll like it unless I try.
but for sure, wont drop until i get my hands on those koni's.
Buying the NT05's next...
I did purchase the H&R springs tho, 1.3 F and 1.4 R.
Switching lanes has been improved with the sway bar at soft setting.
I'm pretty content with the setup, MAYBE just maybe I'll switch it to the stiffer setting. Heck, I wont know if I'll like it unless I try.
but for sure, wont drop until i get my hands on those koni's.
Buying the NT05's next...
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